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RE: Revival of Memphis Football
(07-06-2019 07:03 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 03:00 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 12:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-02-2019 06:00 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Tommy West took Ripp's recruits and won with them, Ripp recruited a tough OOC schedule, Tommy played
Cupcakes.
I best remember him for sitting DeAngelo against utk and costing us the game

Tommy's Tigers played teams like Ole Miss, Miss State, Tennessee, Louisville (after they left for the BE) Arky State, and MTSU...not exactly cupcakes

The one complaint I had against Tommy was he never came through with a h&h with Clemson. He may have tried, but he never got it done.

West loved to play cupcakes OOC - my complaint.

like who?

Ole Miss, Miss State, Tennessee, Arky State, MTSU, and the FCS game our AD required us to play every season. I don't see the problem there.

I'd rather play ASU and MTSU over UL-M, Ga State, or South Alabama.
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(07-01-2019 09:01 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  It's been a while since I went to school there. But, I remember when 1 or two wins in a season was an accomplishment. LOL

When I was a student, an attempt at a point after was always a nail biter.
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RE: Revival of Memphis Football
(07-07-2019 03:16 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 09:01 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  It's been a while since I went to school there. But, I remember when 1 or two wins in a season was an accomplishment. LOL

When I was a student, an attempt at a point after was always a nail biter.

Did they have tees back then?
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RE: Revival of Memphis Football
(07-07-2019 04:01 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 03:16 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 09:01 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  It's been a while since I went to school there. But, I remember when 1 or two wins in a season was an accomplishment. LOL

When I was a student, an attempt at a point after was always a nail biter.

Did they have tees back then?

Heck, I wouldn't know. They had the student section so far back I couldn't have seen it with the Hubble telescope. It was in the LB.
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There isn't a single bad seat in the Liberty Bowl dude.
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RE: Revival of Memphis Football
(07-07-2019 04:13 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 04:01 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 03:16 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 09:01 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  It's been a while since I went to school there. But, I remember when 1 or two wins in a season was an accomplishment. LOL

When I was a student, an attempt at a point after was always a nail biter.

Did they have tees back then?

Heck, I wouldn't know. They had the student section so far back I couldn't have seen it with the Hubble telescope. It was in the LB.

haha 04-cheers
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RE: Revival of Memphis Football
(07-07-2019 11:56 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 04:13 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 04:01 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 03:16 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 09:01 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  It's been a while since I went to school there. But, I remember when 1 or two wins in a season was an accomplishment. LOL

When I was a student, an attempt at a point after was always a nail biter.

Did they have tees back then?

Heck, I wouldn't know. They had the student section so far back I couldn't have seen it with the Hubble telescope. It was in the LB.

haha 04-cheers

Not to mention the volume of tasty adult beverages (for 21 yo students of course).
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RE: Revival of Memphis Football
(07-07-2019 04:01 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 03:16 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 09:01 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  It's been a while since I went to school there. But, I remember when 1 or two wins in a season was an accomplishment. LOL

When I was a student, an attempt at a point after was always a nail biter.

Did they have tees back then?

So true, and even when we would win, the lack of touchdowns never gave the kicker any practice at point afters.
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RE: Revival of Memphis Football
(07-07-2019 01:04 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 07:03 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 03:00 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 12:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-02-2019 06:00 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Tommy West took Ripp's recruits and won with them, Ripp recruited a tough OOC schedule, Tommy played
Cupcakes.
I best remember him for sitting DeAngelo against utk and costing us the game

Tommy's Tigers played teams like Ole Miss, Miss State, Tennessee, Louisville (after they left for the BE) Arky State, and MTSU...not exactly cupcakes

The one complaint I had against Tommy was he never came through with a h&h with Clemson. He may have tried, but he never got it done.

West loved to play cupcakes OOC - my complaint.

like who?

Ole Miss, Miss State, Tennessee, Arky State, MTSU, and the FCS game our AD required us to play every season. I don't see the problem there.

I'd rather play ASU and MTSU over UL-M, Ga State, or South Alabama.

He loved Chattanooga on the schedule....
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Oh noes not the FCS game!
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We played some powerful programs in our bowl games under Tommy, with Ripp's players, but hey we were bowling until Ripp's players left
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(07-09-2019 11:38 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We played some powerful programs in our bowl games under Tommy, with Ripp's players, but hey we were bowling until Ripp's players left

Two bowls AFTER every Rip player was gone. The majority of contributors in '04 and especially '05 were not Rip recruits.
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All those powerful teams tommy played were scheduled by Ripp
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Get over it.
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(07-10-2019 11:47 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Get over it.

You don't get over stupidity.
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(07-01-2019 07:53 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

So did anyone else get a security warning about the link?
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(07-19-2019 01:24 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 07:53 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

So did anyone else get a security warning about the link?

Yes, I did:

The link you are trying to access has been identified by Twitter or our partners as being potentially harmful or associated with a violation of Twitter’s Terms of Service.
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(07-19-2019 01:44 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 01:24 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 07:53 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

So did anyone else get a security warning about the link?

Yes, I did:

The link you are trying to access has been identified by Twitter or our partners as being potentially harmful or associated with a violation of Twitter’s Terms of Service.

So, IOW... he's a conservative. 03-lmfao
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(07-03-2019 12:43 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(07-03-2019 10:29 AM)slktigers Wrote:  
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(07-02-2019 09:28 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 08:36 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  don't forget Baylor and Kansas State, and Northwestern.
Until Art Briles, and Bill Snyder....those two schools were perennial losers....as was Northwestern.

We were rarely the worst team, but we had never been great, ever, the Burley Bowl (1956) and Pasadena Bowl (1971) were our only claims to fame. We won the MVC in 1968, 69 and 71. The problem was almost every other team had won something at some point.

Baylor has been to 24 bowl games, way back tho the Orange bowl in 1951, Gator in 1956 and 1960, Sugar in 1956, Cotton in 1974 and 80, etc, etc, etc.

Kansas State didn't do anything until the 1990's

Northwestern won the Rose bowl in 1948 and lost there in 1995 and had a few other brief moments of glory.

Even Tulane had been to the Sugar and Rose Bowls in the 1930's and the Liberty Bowl in 1970 and 79 and had the 12-0 season with a Liberty Bowl win in 1998.

We hadn't accomplished very much and are still looking for an AAC championship game victory.

We had never been great, ever? We were for 4 years, at least, from 1960-63. We went 8-2, 8-2, 8-1 and 9-0-1.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/memphis/

In 1960, we had the 12th best record (8-2) out of 113 football schools. We were 2nd nationally in points per game (30.3), and 22nd in points allowed (8.5). Our only losses were to Ole Miss, who was great that year, and Miss State.

In 1961, our record (8-2) was 10th best out of 111. We were 3rd in the country in points scored per game (33.2), and 8th in defensive points allowed (7.5)

In 1962, our record (8-1) was 5th best out of 120 teams. We were 3rd in the country in scoring offense, and 10th in scoring defense.

In 1963, we had our best team ever (9-0-1). Second best record out of 120 teams. 27th in scoring offense, 2nd in scoring defense. Harry Schuh was a first team All American, and went on to play in the NFL for several years before injuries got him. IIRC, we had another All-American, and a couple others went on to the NFL.

And the capper, we finished 14th in the national poll that year. Our only blemish was a scoreless tie with Ole Miss, a game we should have won (I was there). Ole Miss was ranked #2 in the country at the time, and finished 3rd in the poll that year, IIRC.

We also beat Miss State, who was 7-2-2 that year, a team that beat Tennessee, Auburn and LSU, and tied Ole Miss and Florida.

Our only drawbacks were not being in a conference, thus not getting a bowl game each year (you had to be in a conference to make one, and there weren't many bowl games), and not having a great strength of schedule. But back then, there weren't that many great teams we could schedule.

At any rate, it's just not true that we were never great in football. It just happened so long ago that only really old Tiger fans remember it.

What is the actual story about why Memphis was an Independent during those year?

There were tons of independents until SC joined the SEC and FSU joined the ACC. It is not accurate that you had to be in a conference to get a bowl bid. That just isn't true at all.

You're right. I should have clarified. There weren't many bowl games back then, and it was definitely a handicap if you weren't in a football conference. Not impossible, but more difficult being an independent, as opposed to winning a conference.

I do recall that some bowls had rules that you had to be a conference champ, or at least have a conference affiliation, to get a bid. Certainly the Rose Bowl did, for example. Their ties with the B10 and Pac go back as long as I can remember.

I just looked up 1960 as a baseline, since that's the era I was referencing. There were 9 bowls that year. 18 teams. Three of them were independents. Navy in the Orange Bowl, and Penn State and Oregon in the Liberty Bowl. So, not impossible, as I incorrectly stated, but certainly a big obstacle.

What sticks with me from then is that schools who didn't have seasons as good as ours were picked over us, and conference affiliation was a big reason.

And according to this site, there weren't "tons of independents." I counted 27, while there were 11 conferences with a total of 86 teams, or 76% of the 113 football schools listed. Assuming this site is accurate.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/yea...bowls.html
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