Anyway, F BYU.

BYU is little more than a cult.

(07-01-2019 01:09 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Anyway, F BYU.

BYU is little more than a cult.

Which can be said about every religion.

Sure.

Doesn't mean we have to let them in.

Given the fluidity of things, take BYU. Good publicity of the conference and BYU has been known to bolt conferences, so they are the one team that I would say 'football only' and be done with it.

Nobody else even comes close: Army, USM, UAB? No thanks.

Truthfully, I wouldn't be excited too much either way with BYU being in or being left out. Just not a lot of interesting programs out there that could add value.

(07-01-2019 12:52 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:16 AM)GottaHateUT Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Army? No thanks. They stunk up C-USA.

BYU would be an instant rivalry. Bring 'em on.

Our football program did too.

Yeah, but our basketball was our big selling point.


Plus, we took care of football eventually.

You guys just don't remember how bad Army was.

Their C-USA years looked like this.

Year Conf W L
2004 CUSA 2 9
2003 CUSA 0 13
2002 CUSA 1 11
2001 CUSA 3 8
2000 CUSA 1 10
1999 CUSA 3 8
1998 CUSA 3 8

(07-01-2019 05:20 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:52 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:16 AM)GottaHateUT Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Army? No thanks. They stunk up C-USA.

BYU would be an instant rivalry. Bring 'em on.

Our football program did too.

Yeah, but our basketball was our big selling point.


Plus, we took care of football eventually.

You guys just don't remember how bad Army was.

Their C-USA years looked like this.

Year Conf W L
2004 CUSA 2 9
2003 CUSA 0 13
2002 CUSA 1 11
2001 CUSA 3 8
2000 CUSA 1 10
1999 CUSA 3 8
1998 CUSA 3 8

That was then, this is now. Army has beaten Navy more often than we have since Navy joined the American!

Army would still add value to the conference. After thinking about this for a few days, there are a few I'd go after for football-only.
BYU, Boise, Army, Air Force, UNLV are possibilities. ESPN will need to be used an advisor.

But there is no one I would go after for all-sports. If you want to add a bb school to counter a fb school, fine - but not necessary.

(07-01-2019 10:32 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:19 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:51 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

The Huskies football program does not have a home, as the Big East doesn’t sponsor the sport. Randy Edsall’s program is likely going to have to go independent for the time being.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco made it clear that his conference has no interest in helping UConn out on the football side, as it takes its most valuable programs elsewhere. From The Athletic:


Nicole Auerbach

@NicoleAuerbach
“When a school takes its best product — men’s and women’s basketball — to another conference, it’s not going to play football in our conference,” AAC commish Mike Aresco said.

UConn football is officially homeless. Here’s what’s next: https://theathletic.com/1051811/2019/06/...mans-land/ …

UConn may be back in the Big East, but its football program...
What happens next for UConn football with the AAC uninterested in a "hybrid" member and the idea of dropping to the FCS unlikely?

As the top non-Power Five conference, the AAC can afford to be a bit picky in what program it wants to replace the Huskies.

According to a report, Army and BYU are two potential targets for the AAC as it aims to replace UConn.
Army would give the AAC a Northeastern replacement for UConn, but according to the Houston Chronicle, geography won’t be a major consideration in adding a program.

BYU is out West, but not overly far from the Texas wing of the AAC. Before the last round of realignment that saw the old Big East split, the league had an agreement to add Boise State and San Diego State, so BYU joining this new version of the league is far from the most drastic potential addition.


One topic up for discussion is whether to explore adding new schools or staying with 11 teams.

“We’ll consider a 12th school, but unless that school helps our strength and really enhances our brand why would you do it?” Aresco said. “We’re not going to do anything that dilutes the brand and diminishes us at all.”

The AAC has a “very small list” of potential expansion candidates, according to a source, that is believed to only seriously include BYU and Army.

As one source added, the AAC has the luxury of “being picky.”

The two programs are about as different as it gets.

BYU has been an independent since leaving the Mountain West, though it has flirted with the Big 12, though no invitation ultimately came. The Cougars could join up as an all-sport member if it wants to leave the West Coast Conference.

Army probably wouldn’t be a great all-sports option, but the Black Knights have seen a serious resurgence in football in the last few years. It would also bring the prestigious Army-Navy game under the AAC banner, which could be attractive as well.

There’s also no guarantee the league adds at all, but it sounds like the preference is to get back up to 12 teams and maintain a championship game.

Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

That is okay. They will be flying planes to and from, not driving race cars to and from...

Non revenue teams travel by bus and not planes.

Most fans travel by road and not fly to away games.

The ORIGINAL statement is that the Texas schools are NOT that far from BYU which is factually incorrect.

UTEP left CUSA due to cost of competing in non revenue generating sports because it is closer from Dallas to Memphis than Dallas to El Paso..


So STUFF IT.

BYU is bringing baseball and soccer to the conference... And remind me when UTEP left CUSA? Even if that were the case, would we really want to be making conference affiliation decisions based on UTEP’s history?

(07-01-2019 09:16 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:32 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:19 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:51 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

The Huskies football program does not have a home, as the Big East doesn’t sponsor the sport. Randy Edsall’s program is likely going to have to go independent for the time being.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco made it clear that his conference has no interest in helping UConn out on the football side, as it takes its most valuable programs elsewhere. From The Athletic:


Nicole Auerbach

@NicoleAuerbach
“When a school takes its best product — men’s and women’s basketball — to another conference, it’s not going to play football in our conference,” AAC commish Mike Aresco said.

UConn football is officially homeless. Here’s what’s next: https://theathletic.com/1051811/2019/06/...mans-land/ …

UConn may be back in the Big East, but its football program...
What happens next for UConn football with the AAC uninterested in a "hybrid" member and the idea of dropping to the FCS unlikely?

As the top non-Power Five conference, the AAC can afford to be a bit picky in what program it wants to replace the Huskies.

According to a report, Army and BYU are two potential targets for the AAC as it aims to replace UConn.
Army would give the AAC a Northeastern replacement for UConn, but according to the Houston Chronicle, geography won’t be a major consideration in adding a program.

BYU is out West, but not overly far from the Texas wing of the AAC. Before the last round of realignment that saw the old Big East split, the league had an agreement to add Boise State and San Diego State, so BYU joining this new version of the league is far from the most drastic potential addition.


One topic up for discussion is whether to explore adding new schools or staying with 11 teams.

“We’ll consider a 12th school, but unless that school helps our strength and really enhances our brand why would you do it?” Aresco said. “We’re not going to do anything that dilutes the brand and diminishes us at all.”

The AAC has a “very small list” of potential expansion candidates, according to a source, that is believed to only seriously include BYU and Army.

As one source added, the AAC has the luxury of “being picky.”

The two programs are about as different as it gets.

BYU has been an independent since leaving the Mountain West, though it has flirted with the Big 12, though no invitation ultimately came. The Cougars could join up as an all-sport member if it wants to leave the West Coast Conference.

Army probably wouldn’t be a great all-sports option, but the Black Knights have seen a serious resurgence in football in the last few years. It would also bring the prestigious Army-Navy game under the AAC banner, which could be attractive as well.

There’s also no guarantee the league adds at all, but it sounds like the preference is to get back up to 12 teams and maintain a championship game.

Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

That is okay. They will be flying planes to and from, not driving race cars to and from...

Non revenue teams travel by bus and not planes.

Most fans travel by road and not fly to away games.

The ORIGINAL statement is that the Texas schools are NOT that far from BYU which is factually incorrect.

UTEP left CUSA due to cost of competing in non revenue generating sports because it is closer from Dallas to Memphis than Dallas to El Paso..


So STUFF IT.

BYU is bringing baseball and soccer to the conference... And remind me when UTEP left CUSA? Even if that were the case, would we really want to be making conference affiliation decisions based on UTEP’s history?

did he mean TCU? LOL

(07-01-2019 09:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:16 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:32 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:19 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

That is okay. They will be flying planes to and from, not driving race cars to and from...

Non revenue teams travel by bus and not planes.

Most fans travel by road and not fly to away games.

The ORIGINAL statement is that the Texas schools are NOT that far from BYU which is factually incorrect.

UTEP left CUSA due to cost of competing in non revenue generating sports because it is closer from Dallas to Memphis than Dallas to El Paso..


So STUFF IT.

BYU is bringing baseball and soccer to the conference... And remind me when UTEP left CUSA? Even if that were the case, would we really want to be making conference affiliation decisions based on UTEP’s history?

did he mean TCU? LOL

I present myself for 40 lashes with a wet noodle.

BYU has the one fanbase I hate worse than Tennessee's

(07-01-2019 09:16 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:32 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:19 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:51 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  https://thespun.com/independents/army/aa...n-big-east

The American Athletic Conference is down a football program, albeit not one it seems overly concerned about losing. UConn is on the way out, as it makes the move to the Big East for most sports.

The Huskies football program does not have a home, as the Big East doesn’t sponsor the sport. Randy Edsall’s program is likely going to have to go independent for the time being.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco made it clear that his conference has no interest in helping UConn out on the football side, as it takes its most valuable programs elsewhere. From The Athletic:


Nicole Auerbach

@NicoleAuerbach
“When a school takes its best product — men’s and women’s basketball — to another conference, it’s not going to play football in our conference,” AAC commish Mike Aresco said.

UConn football is officially homeless. Here’s what’s next: https://theathletic.com/1051811/2019/06/...mans-land/ …

UConn may be back in the Big East, but its football program...
What happens next for UConn football with the AAC uninterested in a "hybrid" member and the idea of dropping to the FCS unlikely?

As the top non-Power Five conference, the AAC can afford to be a bit picky in what program it wants to replace the Huskies.

According to a report, Army and BYU are two potential targets for the AAC as it aims to replace UConn.
Army would give the AAC a Northeastern replacement for UConn, but according to the Houston Chronicle, geography won’t be a major consideration in adding a program.

BYU is out West, but not overly far from the Texas wing of the AAC. Before the last round of realignment that saw the old Big East split, the league had an agreement to add Boise State and San Diego State, so BYU joining this new version of the league is far from the most drastic potential addition.


One topic up for discussion is whether to explore adding new schools or staying with 11 teams.

“We’ll consider a 12th school, but unless that school helps our strength and really enhances our brand why would you do it?” Aresco said. “We’re not going to do anything that dilutes the brand and diminishes us at all.”

The AAC has a “very small list” of potential expansion candidates, according to a source, that is believed to only seriously include BYU and Army.

As one source added, the AAC has the luxury of “being picky.”

The two programs are about as different as it gets.

BYU has been an independent since leaving the Mountain West, though it has flirted with the Big 12, though no invitation ultimately came. The Cougars could join up as an all-sport member if it wants to leave the West Coast Conference.

Army probably wouldn’t be a great all-sports option, but the Black Knights have seen a serious resurgence in football in the last few years. It would also bring the prestigious Army-Navy game under the AAC banner, which could be attractive as well.

There’s also no guarantee the league adds at all, but it sounds like the preference is to get back up to 12 teams and maintain a championship game.

Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

That is okay. They will be flying planes to and from, not driving race cars to and from...

Non revenue teams travel by bus and not planes.

Most fans travel by road and not fly to away games.

The ORIGINAL statement is that the Texas schools are NOT that far from BYU which is factually incorrect.

UTEP left CUSA due to cost of competing in non revenue generating sports because it is closer from Dallas to Memphis than Dallas to El Paso..


So STUFF IT.

BYU is bringing baseball and soccer to the conference... And remind me when UTEP left CUSA? Even if that were the case, would we really want to be making conference affiliation decisions based on UTEP’s history?

UTEP should have left CUSA after DeAngelo sliced 'em up! He went past 7-9....felt like 27 possible tacklers for a huge TD run. I'll never forget that run.

Check out the 1:30 mark (poor footage):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvAWyNY6xU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrkfgXNZM1M

Coming around on Army

The fact they were really down when they were in CUSA is irrelevant

Memphis was pretty bad from 2009 through 2013 ourselves, and have had other lengthy periods of awful

Army, Navy in our conference has an appeal. AAC leaders should specifically explore this now

(07-02-2019 06:31 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  BYU has the one fanbase I hate worse than Tennessee's

Tennessee's fanbase can be complimentary at times.
I remember Tee Martin having to bring the Vols back on a last minute drive to kick a field goal...to beat Memphis 17-16.
As the Tigers staff and players left the field in Knoxville that day...all of the UT fans stood and gave them a standing ovation.
I always thought that that was classy of them.

(07-01-2019 09:16 AM)GottaHateUT Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Army? No thanks. They stunk up C-USA.

BYU would be an instant rivalry. Bring 'em on.

Our football program did too.

As bad as we were, we still kicked their teeth in more often than not

(07-02-2019 10:40 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-02-2019 06:31 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  BYU has the one fanbase I hate worse than Tennessee's

Tennessee's fanbase can be complimentary at times.
I remember Tee Martin having to bring the Vols back on a last minute drive to kick a field goal...to beat Memphis 17-16.
As the Tigers staff and players left the field in Knoxville that day...all of the UT fans stood and gave them a standing ovation.
I always thought that that was classy of them.

Let's not get too carried away lol. The UT fans still need to eat a whole bag of @#$#.

(07-02-2019 12:37 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(07-02-2019 10:40 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-02-2019 06:31 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  BYU has the one fanbase I hate worse than Tennessee's

Tennessee's fanbase can be complimentary at times.
I remember Tee Martin having to bring the Vols back on a last minute drive to kick a field goal...to beat Memphis 17-16.
As the Tigers staff and players left the field in Knoxville that day...all of the UT fans stood and gave them a standing ovation.
I always thought that that was classy of them.

Let's not get too carried away lol. The UT fans still need to eat a whole bag of @#$#.

well yeah, that's a given LOL

If we get paid the same, I would be fine with 11 teams. I don't see anyone out there that is a must have.

Word on the street. BYU AND BOISE OR ARMY

(07-01-2019 10:32 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:19 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 10:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Have you ever been to Texas? The two Texas schools are closer to USF, UC and UCF than they are BYU.
Dallas to Provo 1,200 miles, Houston to Provo 1,400.
Dallas to Orlando 1,000 miles, Houston to Orlando 966 miles
Dallas to St Pete 1,100 miles, Houston to St Pete 1,000 miles
Dallas to Cincinnati 933 miles, Houston to Cincinnati 1,050 miles

Temple and Navy are the only two AAC school who are farther from the Texas schools than BYU

That is okay. They will be flying planes to and from, not driving race cars to and from...

Non revenue teams travel by bus and not planes.

Most fans travel by road and not fly to away games.

The ORIGINAL statement is that the Texas schools are NOT that far from BYU which is factually incorrect.

UTEP left CUSA due to cost of competing in non revenue generating sports because it is closer from Dallas to Memphis than Dallas to El Paso..


So STUFF IT.

BYU plays its Olympic sports in the WCC. Here's a map. You can not convince me, short of a news story, that they take buses to ANY of their conference games. They are all roughly 800 miles.