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(07-01-2019 05:45 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  The poor attitudes come from having to live with an AD that sucks. He didn't even want to move up to FBS in the first place. Hard to be optimistic about your program when you know who's running it.

Empathy. We know exactly what your preaching. Try asking GS about a former Keds wearing AD.
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(07-01-2019 04:41 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Beautiful stadium great potential poor attitudes.

I've been saying this for longer than I can remember.

Our fans have a list of demands that are about 13,593 items long they need met before they'll start supporting their alma mater again.

"If Teis is fired I'll buy season tickets again". Sure. If a new AD comes there will be another "if" that needs to be met.

We love to complain but we hold ourselves back more than just about any other fan base I know then we just blame it all on the one really really really easy target there is to blame it all on.
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(07-01-2019 07:29 PM)_x_ Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 04:41 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Beautiful stadium great potential poor attitudes.

I've been saying this for longer than I can remember.

Our fans have a list of demands that are about 13,593 items long they need met before they'll start supporting their alma mater again.

"If Teis is fired I'll buy season tickets again". Sure. If a new AD comes there will be another "if" that needs to be met.

We love to complain but we hold ourselves back more than just about any other fan base I know then we just blame it all on the one really really really easy target there is to blame it all on.

A small group formed called the dirty dozen in Statesboro that changed the trajectory of the university. Somebody in the community needs to get organized around a purpose and bring in some folks that can make a difference. Disappointing to see such potential and such investment result in such hohum among the faithful.
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Tell me more about this dirty dozen.
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(07-01-2019 08:39 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  Tell me more about this dirty dozen.

Try a google search using dirty dozen and Statesboro and Georgia Southern. Their referenced often in many publications. The dirty dozen were essentially responsible for bringing back football and bringing in Erk Russell. A small group of the GS faithful with some influence. As recently as last week the current president met with those still alive. If what you guys are saying is real you'll be amazed at what you can get going with an invitation for dinner with a handful of the faithful. Grass roots will blow up on ya and you'll soon find a voice if you go about it in an organized way.
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(07-01-2019 08:55 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 08:39 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  Tell me more about this dirty dozen.

Try a google search using dirty dozen and Statesboro and Georgia Southern. Their referenced often in many publications. The dirty dozen were essentially responsible for bringing back football and bringing in Erk Russell. A small group of the GS faithful with some influence. As recently as last week the current president met with those still alive. If what you guys are saying is real you'll be amazed at what you can get going with an invitation for dinner with a handful of the faithful. Grass roots will blow up on ya and you'll soon find a voice if you go about it in an organized way.

Dirty Dozen are actually a phenomenal brass band from Nawlins.
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(06-30-2019 08:57 AM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  
(06-30-2019 06:37 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The biggest losers in my opinion were all the members of the Big East, plus UCF, Houston, Memphis, Cincinnati, SDSU, and Boise. Those six schools had received official invitations to join the Big East just before the Big East got kicked out of the club that was to become the P5. Those six schools never became Big East members when the whole thing fell apart when the P5 was established and the Big East wasn't a part of it.

Nothing any G5 member lost can hold a candle to what was lost by the schools that were members of a conference that was a legitimate BCS conference at the time. The Big East split up, and the football playing members had to form a new conference (the AAC) to have a place to call home in the newly established G5. Those schools went from having a guaranteed spot in a BCS bowl for its champion every year, as well as a legitimate shot at a spot in the College National Championship Game, to competing with four other conferences for a spot in a meaningless, so called "access" bowl. I bet they had trouble sleeping at night for quite a while.

The teams mentioned above (not including the west coast teams) were still ultimate winners despite the BCS set back. The football conference formed was basically CUSA 1.5, which was close to the most stable and prominent version of CUSA. As time went on they also got a huge pay boost from it. In terms of money, and the G5, the AAC and the Sunbelt were the winners. The Sunbelt is getting paid like 5 times what we used to get paid (Georgia Southern, App State, and Coastal are getting paid more than that, coming from FCS...we basically weren’t getting paid anything at that level). I think in terms of current CUSA and SBC, the fact that CUSA is a considered a realignment loser and the SBC is a winner is solely from the decisions that CUSA made during realignment. It could have easily been the other way around with different choices.

I don't see how you figure that a team that dropped down from a conference whose champion plays in a New Year's Day bowl game every year to a G5 conference is an "ultimate winner". You sure won't find any fans of the schools that it happened to that feel like they won in that whole debacle.
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(06-30-2019 04:31 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Another big winner is South Alabama. We were this >< close to joining CUSA before UAB resurrected football. A sincere thank you to the Blazers 04-cheers

Yeah right. Tell me something. Have you ever noticed how not a single CUSA member has EVER applied for membership in the Sun Belt?

I honestly mean no offense to the Sun Belt, but the fact of the matter is that I truly believe that if today UAB were to leave CUSA for the AAC (it won't happen, but let's just pretend it did), that there would be three or four SBC members interested in making the move to CUSA if offered. I personally believe that UL-L would be the favorite as a replacement for UAB, but that's just my opinion. If every SBC member turned us down, then I'd eat my words. I just don't believe it would happen.
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(07-02-2019 05:11 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(06-30-2019 04:31 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Another big winner is South Alabama. We were this >< close to joining CUSA before UAB resurrected football. A sincere thank you to the Blazers 04-cheers

Yeah right. Tell me something. Have you ever noticed how not a single CUSA member has EVER applied for membership in the Sun Belt?

I honestly mean no offense to the Sun Belt, but the fact of the matter is that I truly believe that if today UAB were to leave CUSA for the AAC (it won't happen, but let's just pretend it did), that there would be three or four SBC members interested in making the move to CUSA if offered. I personally believe that UL-L would be the favorite as a replacement for UAB, but that's just my opinion. If every SBC member turned us down, then I'd eat my words. I just don't believe it would happen.

Well it’s pretty simple. CUSA used to be better than the Sun Belt. Now they’re not.
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I don't think any Sun Belt member would move to CUSA. Smaller pay out and worse media deal. We would be the only ones that have a reason to even consider the move. Only because it gets us in a conference with other Texas schools.

Even do, I would hope our AD wouldn't be stupid enough to make that move. Although, we've seen the stupid decisions he's made for the past 15 years, so there's really no telling.
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(07-02-2019 05:11 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(06-30-2019 04:31 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Another big winner is South Alabama. We were this >< close to joining CUSA before UAB resurrected football. A sincere thank you to the Blazers 04-cheers

Yeah right. Tell me something. Have you ever noticed how not a single CUSA member has EVER applied for membership in the Sun Belt?

I honestly mean no offense to the Sun Belt, but the fact of the matter is that I truly believe that if today UAB were to leave CUSA for the AAC (it won't happen, but let's just pretend it did), that there would be three or four SBC members interested in making the move to CUSA if offered. I personally believe that UL-L would be the favorite as a replacement for UAB, but that's just my opinion. If every SBC member turned us down, then I'd eat my words. I just don't believe it would happen.

It doesn't matter what I've "noticed". USA won the "straw poll" unanimously to replace UAB and was all in on making the move at the time. It also doesn't matter to me one iota if you believe me or not...it's true. What DOES matter to me is the fact UAB reinstated and South's fate was to remain in the "lowly Belch" and thank the FootBall Godz it's worked out that way. IMO, this makes us one of the MAJOR realignment winners.
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(07-02-2019 08:26 PM)airtroop Wrote:  
(07-02-2019 05:11 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(06-30-2019 04:31 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Another big winner is South Alabama. We were this >< close to joining CUSA before UAB resurrected football. A sincere thank you to the Blazers 04-cheers

Yeah right. Tell me something. Have you ever noticed how not a single CUSA member has EVER applied for membership in the Sun Belt?

I honestly mean no offense to the Sun Belt, but the fact of the matter is that I truly believe that if today UAB were to leave CUSA for the AAC (it won't happen, but let's just pretend it did), that there would be three or four SBC members interested in making the move to CUSA if offered. I personally believe that UL-L would be the favorite as a replacement for UAB, but that's just my opinion. If every SBC member turned us down, then I'd eat my words. I just don't believe it would happen.

It doesn't matter what I've "noticed". USA won the "straw poll" unanimously to replace UAB and was all in on making the move at the time. It also doesn't matter to me one iota if you believe me or not...it's true. What DOES matter to me is the fact UAB reinstated and South's fate was to remain in the "lowly Belch" and thank the FootBall Godz it's worked out that way. IMO, this makes us one of the MAJOR realignment winners.

I suppose it's a matter of from whence you came. When one has nowhere to go but up, any movement is good.

None of this matters though. A total remake of the G5 will happen once everything is settled on the P5 front. I predict that the wholesale changes we'll see in the makeup of all five G5 conferences will be very well thought out, and that the newly formed conferences will work much better for everyone in almost every area. Reductions in travel costs and the renewal of many rivalries will be the first two things that make an immediate impact for everyone. There will, however, be winners and losers in this scenario too.
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