Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
Author Message
ccd494 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,108
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 129
I Root For: Maine
Location:
Post: #101
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-17-2019 06:06 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Majority of the people they do serve are Nanooks and other natives. They could be considered a university that serves Native Americans.

....a Nanook is a bear. A nine figure statewide budget to educate bears does seem a bit excessive, however.
07-17-2019 07:53 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TDenverFan Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,311
Joined: Aug 2014
Reputation: 99
I Root For: William & Mary
Location: Northern VA
Post: #102
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-17-2019 06:06 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Majority of the people they do serve are Nanooks and other natives. They could be considered a university that serves Native Americans.

https://uaf.edu/facts/

Bear thing aside, 59% Caucasian, 24% Alaskan native/American Indian. Obviously a higher percent than most universities, but far from a majority.
07-17-2019 09:49 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
CenterSquarEd Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 514
Joined: Jul 2015
Reputation: 32
I Root For: Siena
Location: Albany, NY
Post: #103
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-17-2019 07:53 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 06:06 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Majority of the people they do serve are Nanooks and other natives. They could be considered a university that serves Native Americans.

....a Nanook is a bear. A nine figure statewide budget to educate bears does seem a bit excessive, however.

They’re smarter than your average bear.
07-17-2019 10:11 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MidWestMidMajor Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 536
Joined: May 2017
Reputation: 30
I Root For: MidwestSchools
Location:
Post: #104
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
We might have a better indication of what will happen with UAA and UAF's athletic programs on Monday. (I don't expect a final decision, but maybe some hint.)

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/educatio...emergency/

I tend to think this is all political negotiation and that some funding will be restored by the governor in return for some other budgetary concessions.
But...what do I know? 03-confused
07-20-2019 10:48 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stugray2 Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,175
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 679
I Root For: tOSU SJSU Stan'
Location: South Bay Area CA
Post: #105
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-20-2019 10:48 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  We might have a better indication of what will happen with UAA and UAF's athletic programs on Monday. (I don't expect a final decision, but maybe some hint.)

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/educatio...emergency/

I tend to think this is all political negotiation and that some funding will be restored by the governor in return for some other budgetary concessions.
But...what do I know? 03-confused

I hope you are right.

But I fear both sides have become extremist on the issue. The University backers see the Permanent fund as the State's piggy bank and feel they should get that money first and lobby to do so (I was amazed how much the UA leadership has focused on advocacy rather than sustainability), and the governor and his core backers who want the legislature to stop raiding the fund, and so targeted the strongest lobby group for raiding the fund.

The compromise would be restoration of most of the funds, with a law passed (requiring 75% override) that sets a harder floor on the Permanent Fund Dividend which increases (slowly, saw $100 per year) until it actually hits the $3000 it is supposed to be (it has only a few years actually passed $2000, and has mostly been around $1000 after the legislature raids). That would be a win for reformed budgeting.

But I think it's turned into a all or nothing war, where neither will cave. So a lot of UA employees will get pink slips, and 2-3,000 students find their education put on hold.
07-21-2019 12:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stugray2 Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,175
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 679
I Root For: tOSU SJSU Stan'
Location: South Bay Area CA
Post: #106
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
Legislature again failed to pass a revised budget. But I think there will at some point be a compromise. It's basically down to one core issue, section 17 of the bill. That has to be fleshed out much more specifically to win over the 22 hold-outs. I think it will be, but it could take a couple weeks to get there. Throwing in some protections for the Dividend would help too.
https://www.adn.com/politics/alaska-legi...rse-sweep/

In a 10-1 vote, University of Alaska Board of regents declare ‘financial exigency’
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/educatio...-exigency/

It's not certain they'll get some or all of the funding back, but they are proceeding as if they wont because they have to. Here are the options:

Quote:UA President Jim Johnsen said he will bring further details about two of the options to the regents’ next meeting on July 30. Those options are:

• Proportionately distribute the $135 million state funding cut to the University of Alaska Anchorage, University of Alaska Fairbanks, University of Alaska Southeast in Juneau and statewide administration. That would retain UA’s current organizational structure and would maintain some access to higher education to a large number of Alaskans, according to Monday’s presentation. But it could also put each university’s accreditation and financial viability at risk, it said.

• Create a “New UA,” shifting from three separately-accredited universities to a single accreditation model. That could lead to the elimination of duplicative units and programs and reduce administrative overhead, according to the presentation. But it would require significant change in institutional accreditation, it said.
07-22-2019 05:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MidWestMidMajor Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 536
Joined: May 2017
Reputation: 30
I Root For: MidwestSchools
Location:
Post: #107
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-22-2019 05:45 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  In a 10-1 vote, University of Alaska Board of regents declare ‘financial exigency’
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/educatio...-exigency/

It's not certain they'll get some or all of the funding back, but they are proceeding as if they wont because they have to. Here are the options:
Quote:• Create a “New UA,” shifting from three separately-accredited universities to a single accreditation model. That could lead to the elimination of duplicative units and programs and reduce administrative overhead, according to the presentation. But it would require significant change in institutional accreditation, it said.

I think that is probably the end-game. A state with drastically shrinking oil revenues and fewer people than North Dakota spread out over the space of 4 Californias can't afford the set up they have (UAF & UAA & UA-SE). They have to "re-engineer" the Univ of Alaska for 2019. In this environment, when they are going to likely eliminate programs and layoff tenured faculty, an athletic department might be seen as a luxury that will be too politically "radioactive" to keep.
(This post was last modified: 07-22-2019 09:13 PM by MidWestMidMajor.)
07-22-2019 09:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BruceMcF Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,098
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 760
I Root For: Reds/Buckeyes/.
Location:
Post: #108
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-22-2019 09:10 PM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  
(07-22-2019 05:45 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  In a 10-1 vote, University of Alaska Board of regents declare ‘financial exigency’
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/educatio...-exigency/

It's not certain they'll get some or all of the funding back, but they are proceeding as if they wont because they have to. Here are the options:
Quote: • Create a “New UA,” shifting from three separately-accredited universities to a single accreditation model. That could lead to the elimination of duplicative units and programs and reduce administrative overhead, according to the presentation. But it would require significant change in institutional accreditation, it said.

I think that is probably the end-game. A state with drastically shrinking oil revenues and fewer people than North Dakota spread out over the space of 4 Californias can't afford the set up they have (UAF & UAA & UA-SE). They have to "re-engineer" the Univ of Alaska for 2019. In this environment, when they are going to likely eliminate programs and layoff tenured faculty, an athletic department might be seen as a luxury that will be too politically "radioactive" to keep.

A consolidated athletic department with Hockey and M/W Skiing at Fairbanks and M/W BBall, gymnastics, track, & women's volleyball at Anchorage seems like it would be able to cut at least 1/3 from the athletic department's budget. Offering up a 33% cut may keep the wolves at bay for a while.
07-22-2019 10:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DavidSt Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 23,010
Joined: Dec 2013
Reputation: 729
I Root For: ATU, P7
Location:
Post: #109
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
I think the Anchorage and Juneau brances drop from four to 2 years, and make UA as the main 4 year campus. That would allocate majority of funding to the main campus so that they can continue to build the med school. You get more federal money for research with a med school than continue running 2 schools. That means all sports dropped at Anchorage campus, sell some land there, and add the sports to Fairbanks that they did not have. Then get enough sports, and go D1 so that you can attract out of state students especially with the med school being built. There are only certain amount of scholarships in the northwest for a very few schools there. If you want to be a doctor or nurse? You can go to UA on a scholarship. UA do have an agreement with U. of Washington in Seattle right now for med students, but Alaska and Washington are kinda far.
(This post was last modified: 07-23-2019 11:45 AM by DavidSt.)
07-23-2019 05:07 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Shox Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 883
Joined: Oct 2007
Reputation: 66
I Root For: Wichita State
Location:
Post: #110
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-22-2019 10:58 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-22-2019 09:10 PM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  
(07-22-2019 05:45 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  In a 10-1 vote, University of Alaska Board of regents declare ‘financial exigency’
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/educatio...-exigency/

It's not certain they'll get some or all of the funding back, but they are proceeding as if they wont because they have to. Here are the options:
Quote: • Create a “New UA,” shifting from three separately-accredited universities to a single accreditation model. That could lead to the elimination of duplicative units and programs and reduce administrative overhead, according to the presentation. But it would require significant change in institutional accreditation, it said.

I think that is probably the end-game. A state with drastically shrinking oil revenues and fewer people than North Dakota spread out over the space of 4 Californias can't afford the set up they have (UAF & UAA & UA-SE). They have to "re-engineer" the Univ of Alaska for 2019. In this environment, when they are going to likely eliminate programs and layoff tenured faculty, an athletic department might be seen as a luxury that will be too politically "radioactive" to keep.

A consolidated athletic department with Hockey and M/W Skiing at Fairbanks and M/W BBall, gymnastics, track, & women's volleyball at Anchorage seems like it would be able to cut at least 1/3 from the athletic department's budget. Offering up a 33% cut may keep the wolves at bay for a while.

Don't see Rifle listed but I am pretty sure UAF is a national power in that sport having won national championships in the past.
07-23-2019 10:18 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stugray2 Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,175
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 679
I Root For: tOSU SJSU Stan'
Location: South Bay Area CA
Post: #111
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
$110 M will likely be restored to University of Alaska System budget ($141M

https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Alaska...70721.html

I think this will stick because $1600 PFD is set in a separate stand alone bill, which is very close to the number the Governor wanted when he vetoed the other items. University system still gets hit with $31M in funding cuts, probably $40M in total spending will have to be reduced from the system. But the most drastic measures may not have to be taken. I suspect financial exigency will remain, as they will have to lay off significant staff.

Sports fallout still unknown. But almost certainly $18.3M the schools spend on athletics (revenues cover only a small fraction) will come under scrutiny, as a luxury expense of almost $2,000 per full time undergraduate student (only 9,342 at UAA and UAF combined).
07-25-2019 01:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MidWestMidMajor Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 536
Joined: May 2017
Reputation: 30
I Root For: MidwestSchools
Location:
Post: #112
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
The Anchorage Daily News is reporting:
"A couple of options for absorbing deep cuts are being considered, including one that would require $50 million worth of cuts at UAA for fiscal year 2020. On Thursday, UAA chancellor Cathy Sandeen released a plan that would include a $4 million cut to athletics. “Please note these are not final decisions,” Sandeen wrote, using italics as emphasis."

That is $4 M cut out of $11 M athletic budget. If I understand, these would be cuts for NEXT year's budget. I suppose that this year's athletic budget continues. So UAA hockey looks safe for this year...but next year ???

If you have to trim $4M, dropping the expensive hockey team gets you "farther faster". I found a document that says the net cost of hockey (expenses minus income) is around $1.5 M. So you still have to trim another $2.5 M. But dropping men's hockey get UAA down to the NCAA d2 minimum of 10 sports, so there are no more sports that can be dropped. I'm not sure it's possible to cut another $2.5 M and still have an NCAA d2 athletic program in Anchorage. The only hope is the "combined" model with UAF. (Maybe that's the point?)

https://www.adn.com/sports/uaa-athletics...rtainties/
https://www.uaa.alaska.edu/about/adminis...4-2019.pdf
07-26-2019 09:09 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BruceMcF Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,098
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 760
I Root For: Reds/Buckeyes/.
Location:
Post: #113
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-26-2019 09:09 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  But dropping men's hockey get UAA down to the NCAA d2 minimum of 10 sports, so there are no more sports that can be dropped.

I follow D2 rules a lot less closely than FBS rules, but wouldn't it also below the D2 minimum of 2 men's and 2 women's team sports ... that is, MBB, WBB, W Volleyball and M ... ? Is there a men's team sport that UAA plays that I am missing?
07-27-2019 07:22 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MidWestMidMajor Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 536
Joined: May 2017
Reputation: 30
I Root For: MidwestSchools
Location:
Post: #114
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
The UAF Chancellor issued a strong defense of the value of intercollegiate sports:

https://news.uaf.edu/friday-focus-what-a...cs-can-do/

I guess that signals that sports won't go away ... completely (???)
07-27-2019 08:24 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MidWestMidMajor Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 536
Joined: May 2017
Reputation: 30
I Root For: MidwestSchools
Location:
Post: #115
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-27-2019 07:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 09:09 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  But dropping men's hockey get UAA down to the NCAA d2 minimum of 10 sports, so there are no more sports that can be dropped.

I follow D2 rules a lot less closely than FBS rules, but wouldn't it also below the D2 minimum of 2 men's and 2 women's team sports ... that is, MBB, WBB, W Volleyball and M ... ? Is there a men's team sport that UAA plays that I am missing?

I think what $4 M budget cut does is push (strongly) in the direction of UAA and UAF sharing an athletic program. They will have the minimum number and mix of teams, but they will be spread between the 2 campuses.
07-27-2019 08:28 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BruceMcF Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,098
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 760
I Root For: Reds/Buckeyes/.
Location:
Post: #116
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-27-2019 08:28 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 07:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 09:09 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  But dropping men's hockey get UAA down to the NCAA d2 minimum of 10 sports, so there are no more sports that can be dropped.

I follow D2 rules a lot less closely than FBS rules, but wouldn't it also below the D2 minimum of 2 men's and 2 women's team sports ... that is, MBB, WBB, W Volleyball and M ... ? Is there a men's team sport that UAA plays that I am missing?

I think what $4 M budget cut does is push (strongly) in the direction of UAA and UAF sharing an athletic program. They will have the minimum number and mix of teams, but they will be spread between the 2 campuses.

Fairbanks has M/W skiiing and rifle -- M/W? coed? For the sake of argument I'll assume M/W. If Fairbanks keeps hockey, then Anchorage keeps MBB, so Anchorage has WBB. A second women's team sport is needed, so Anchorage has Women's Volleyball (they have the BBall arena, where Volleyball can be played). Anchorage presently does M/W gymnastics (BB arena, again). That's 2M team / 2W team, 3M individual (skiing, rifle, gymnastics), 3W individual (skiing, rifle, gymnastics). If rifle is coed and another pair of sports are needed, add M/W cross country at Anhcorage.
07-27-2019 09:09 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
AZcats Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,826
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation: 137
I Root For: stAte, af, zona
Location: Pike's Peak
Post: #117
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-27-2019 09:09 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 08:28 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 07:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 09:09 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  But dropping men's hockey get UAA down to the NCAA d2 minimum of 10 sports, so there are no more sports that can be dropped.

I follow D2 rules a lot less closely than FBS rules, but wouldn't it also below the D2 minimum of 2 men's and 2 women's team sports ... that is, MBB, WBB, W Volleyball and M ... ? Is there a men's team sport that UAA plays that I am missing?

I think what $4 M budget cut does is push (strongly) in the direction of UAA and UAF sharing an athletic program. They will have the minimum number and mix of teams, but they will be spread between the 2 campuses.

Fairbanks has M/W skiiing and rifle -- M/W? coed? For the sake of argument I'll assume M/W. If Fairbanks keeps hockey, then Anchorage keeps MBB, so Anchorage has WBB. A second women's team sport is needed, so Anchorage has Women's Volleyball (they have the BBall arena, where Volleyball can be played). Anchorage presently does M/W gymnastics (BB arena, again). That's 2M team / 2W team, 3M individual (skiing, rifle, gymnastics), 3W individual (skiing, rifle, gymnastics). If rifle is coed and another pair of sports are needed, add M/W cross country at Anchorage.

The team sports at each school are Basketball and Ice Hockey for men and Basketball and Volleyball for women. All other teams at both schools are individual sports. Anchorage has only Women's Gymnastics. The 2 team sports per gender rule is a NCAA rule, not just a D2 rule; so if Ice Hockey is dropped, they would be required to add another men's team sport or be forced out of the NCAA. Rifle and Skiing compete for a single coed championship but schools have a men's and/or a women's team(s).
07-27-2019 12:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BruceMcF Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,098
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 760
I Root For: Reds/Buckeyes/.
Location:
Post: #118
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-27-2019 12:01 PM)AZcats Wrote:  The team sports at each school are Basketball and Ice Hockey for men and Basketball and Volleyball for women.

That much I was confident remembering.

Quote: All other teams at both schools are individual sports. Anchorage has only Women's Gymnastics.

The meet sports less so. But they both have track, indoor track and cross country ... you don't really save much cutting cross country if you have outdoor track and field, and while in a lot of country you can save something in facilities costs not having a indoor track facility, Anchorage could be a place where you need it so the outdoor track team can be ready for meets.

Quote: The 2 team sports per gender rule is a NCAA rule, not just a D2 rule; so if Ice Hockey is dropped, they would be required to add another men's team sport or be forced out of the NCAA.

So they cannot even save money on that front by dropping down to Division 3.

Quote: Rifle and Skiing compete for a single coed championship but schools have a men's and/or a women's team(s).

When I checked, I noted that UAF has M/W skiiing, but I didn't note whether they had a co-ed rifle team or M/W rifle teams ... given that I totally overlooked that they had rifle. Their team page says "Men's and Women's Rifle", so I take it that is co-ed. ...
... where that is important is that you need to have at least one men OR co-ed sport and one women's sport each playing season (Fall, Winter, Spring). Women's volleyball is Fall, Hockey is Winter, MBB/WBB is Winter, Rifle is Winter, M/W Skiing is Winter, Gymnastics is Winter ... so since Division 2 has a three season requirement just like Division 1, the track program is required for the 3 season requirement. M/W cross country and outdoor track & field, to cover M Fall, M/W Spring.

Team sports: MBB(A), WBB(A), M Hockey(F), W Volleyball(A), then M&W Skiing(F), M/W cross country and outdoor track seems like the bare minimum ... women's gymnastics so Anchorage keeps one of its Div1 sports, co-ed rifle at Fairbanks would be extra, to reduce the pain of the slashing of sports at the two campuses, and AFAIU, if you have a track program, indoor track & field wouldn't likely cost a lot extra.
(This post was last modified: 07-30-2019 09:10 PM by BruceMcF.)
07-28-2019 08:41 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
AZcats Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,826
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation: 137
I Root For: stAte, af, zona
Location: Pike's Peak
Post: #119
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-28-2019 08:41 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 12:01 PM)AZcats Wrote:  The team sports at each school are Basketball and Ice Hockey for men and Basketball and Volleyball for women.

That much I was confident remembering.

Quote: All other teams at both schools are individual sports. Anchorage has only Women's Gymnastics.

The meet sports less so. But they both have track, indoor track and cross country ... you don't really save much cutting cross country if you have outdoor track and field, and while in a lot of country you can save something in facilities costs not having a indoor track facility, Anchorage could be a place where you need it so the outdoor track team can be ready for meets.

* Fairbanks has Cross Country but not Track & Field, either indoor or outdoor. *

Quote: The 2 team sports per gender rule is a NCAA rule, not just a D2 rule; so if Ice Hockey is dropped, they would be required to add another men's team sport or be forced out of the NCAA.

So they cannot even save money on that front by dropping down to Division 3.

* That would be correct unless I am also missing something. *

Quote: Rifle and Skiing compete for a single coed championship but schools have a men's and/or a women's team(s).

When I checked, I noted that UAF has M/W skiiing, but I didn't note whether they had a co-ed team or M/W teams ... given that I totally overlooked that they had rifle. Their team page says "Men's and Women's Rifle", so I take it that is co-ed. ...
... where that is important is that you need to have at least one men OR co-ed sport and one women's sport each playing season (Fall, Winter, Spring). Women's volleyball is Fall, Hockey is Winter, MBB/WBB is Winter, Rifle is Winter, M/W Skiing is Winter, Gymnastics is Winter ... so since Division 2 has a three season requirement just like Division 1, the track program is required for the 3 season requirement. M/W cross country and outdoor track & field, to cover M Fall, M/W Spring.

* Yeah, that's pretty much the gist of it about the coed sports. The three season requirement is also a NCAA rule and not just a division rule. I did not realize until yesterday that Fairbanks does not have any spring sports. Maybe the NCAA actually allowed an exception due to their location. *

Team sports: MBB(A), WBB(A), M Hockey(F), W Volleyball(A), then M&W Skiing(F), M/W cross country and outdoor track seems like the bare minimum ... women's gymnastics so Anchorage keeps one of its Div1 sports, co-ed rifle at Fairbanks would be extra, to reduce the pain of the slashing of sports at the two campuses, and AFAIU, if you have a track program, indoor track & field wouldn't likely cost a lot extra.
07-28-2019 12:33 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BruceMcF Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,098
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 760
I Root For: Reds/Buckeyes/.
Location:
Post: #120
RE: Seven schools have announced a new college hockey league
(07-28-2019 12:33 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 08:41 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  When I checked, I noted that UAF has M/W skiiing, but I didn't note whether they had a co-ed team or M/W teams ... given that I totally overlooked that they had rifle. Their team page says "Men's and Women's Rifle", so I take it that is co-ed. ...
... where that is important is that you need to have at least one men OR co-ed sport and one women's sport each playing season (Fall, Winter, Spring). Women's volleyball is Fall, Hockey is Winter, MBB/WBB is Winter, Rifle is Winter, M/W Skiing is Winter, Gymnastics is Winter ... so since Division 2 has a three season requirement just like Division 1, the track program is required for the 3 season requirement. M/W cross country and outdoor track & field, to cover M Fall, M/W Spring.

Yeah, that's pretty much the gist of it about the coed sports. The three season requirement is also a NCAA rule and not just a division rule. I did not realize until yesterday that Fairbanks does not have any spring sports. Maybe the NCAA actually allowed an exception due to their location.

That's a possibility. The exceptions "Because Alaska" or "Because Hawaii" are likely easier to get through, because of the limited number of other programs who can use the exception as a precedent.

If a similar exception could be granted to a consolidated UA, then if I understand the handling of co-ed sports, which seems to be aimed to avoid using them to meet requirements for women's sports, then Hockey (F), MBB (A), M skiing (F) co-ed rifle (F), and M Xcountry (A) as the five men's or co-ed sports and Women's Volleyball (A), WBB (A), W gymnastics (A), W Skiiing (F), W cross country (A) would be a minimum slate as well.
07-28-2019 08:09 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.