(06-27-2019 03:08 PM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-27-2019 03:05 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  As an App State fan/alum, I'd first prefer my school but would much rather see a Marshall or a Southern Miss get called up than one of these big market schools that can't get anyone to come to their games, and also stink at football more often than not

Yep. It's much better to have a large, engaged fan base in mid-size market than an empty stadium in a big market.

That's why ECU got the call up back when it was still called the Big East in 2012 and what we (ECU fans) had been spouting for years before that. It was somewhat surprising because market had always trumped fan base prior to that, at least as far as big east expansion was concerned.

(07-01-2019 09:49 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I love how ODU's $46MM 55% subsidized budget is god awful, but Marshall's $30MM 50% subsidized budget is amazing.

If Marshall is accepted and gets a full cut of the AAC media deal, they'd still be $10MM below what ODU's budget is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No one cares how much you spend on Tennis and/or tiddly winks.

Have fun with your 22k seat stadium. You didn't even average 20k/game last year. Get serious.

Marshall is the ONLY reasonable candidate to average over 24k/game in football and over 6k/game in basketball.

We also have the best TV ratings out of every reasonable candidate. No comparison.

(07-01-2019 12:20 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:49 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I love how ODU's $46MM 55% subsidized budget is god awful, but Marshall's $30MM 50% subsidized budget is amazing.

If Marshall is accepted and gets a full cut of the AAC media deal, they'd still be $10MM below what ODU's budget is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No one cares how much you spend on Tennis and/or tiddly winks.

Have fun with your 22k seat stadium. You didn't even average 20k/game last year. Get serious.

Marshall is the ONLY reasonable candidate to average over 24k/game in football and over 6k/game in basketball.

We also have the best TV ratings out of every reasonable candidate. No comparison.

24K? That's what you're bragging about? And when was the last time Marshall had averaged over 6,000 in basketball?

(07-01-2019 12:20 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:49 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I love how ODU's $46MM 55% subsidized budget is god awful, but Marshall's $30MM 50% subsidized budget is amazing.

If Marshall is accepted and gets a full cut of the AAC media deal, they'd still be $10MM below what ODU's budget is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No one cares how much you spend on Tennis and/or tiddly winks.

Have fun with your 22k seat stadium. You didn't even average 20k/game last year. Get serious.

Marshall is the ONLY reasonable candidate to average over 24k/game in football and over 6k/game in basketball.

We also have the best TV ratings out of every reasonable candidate. No comparison.

Yes, it’s obvious to everyone that you’re the best option out there. The only thing Marshall had to compete with in the Huntington market for entertainment dollars was a Dusty Rhodes autograph session. Sadly, Marshall is all that’s remaining...

If we had to add an all sports member (not Army or BYU), I'd pick Marshall.

(07-01-2019 12:47 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:20 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:49 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I love how ODU's $46MM 55% subsidized budget is god awful, but Marshall's $30MM 50% subsidized budget is amazing.

If Marshall is accepted and gets a full cut of the AAC media deal, they'd still be $10MM below what ODU's budget is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No one cares how much you spend on Tennis and/or tiddly winks.

Have fun with your 22k seat stadium. You didn't even average 20k/game last year. Get serious.

Marshall is the ONLY reasonable candidate to average over 24k/game in football and over 6k/game in basketball.

We also have the best TV ratings out of every reasonable candidate. No comparison.

24K? That's what you're bragging about? And when was the last time Marshall had averaged over 6,000 in basketball?

No I'm not bragging about it. We averaged around 28k/game when we were with the current AAC members. Which puts us right on par with the majority of the conference.

Our measly 24k is still 2k more than your upgraded stadium holds.

We averaged over 6k/game in basketball this past season. It would only increase playing in the AAC. We didn't sell out a single game for CUSA teams but had sell outs of around 10k for Memphis and UCF back when we were conference mates with them.

(07-01-2019 01:45 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  If we had to add an all sports member (not Army or BYU), I'd pick Marshall.

We would love to be in a conference with UCF again. From the MAC to CUSA and hopefully now in the AAC.

(07-01-2019 04:46 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 01:45 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  If we had to add an all sports member (not Army or BYU), I'd pick Marshall.

We would love to be in a conference with UCF again. From the MAC to CUSA and hopefully now in the AAC.

Marshall would probably get a lot of support from UCF, ECU, and UC fans, maybe Memphis too. I've long be in favor of a home and home yearly ooc series with Marshall and UCF. Would be fun for both schools.

Nope

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Ga State fans trying to compare their football program to Marshall

If Marshall is the best choice, we need to stand pat at 11.

(07-03-2019 07:30 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Ga State fans trying to compare their football program to Marshall

Naw, comparing you to AAC...

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From day one I have been about Marshall, Dayton, and VCU. Schools in footprint with actual fans. Helps travel, creates a nice northern wing for the league.

Move the basketball tournament to Cincinnati you get a sellouts in a new arena instead of empty seats.

The conference needs tighter geography and rivals for Cincinnati, Temple, and ECU.

(07-03-2019 09:01 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  From day one I have been about Marshall, Dayton, and VCU. Schools in footprint with actual fans. Helps travel, creates a nice northern wing for the league.

Move the basketball tournament to Cincinnati you get a sellouts in a new arena instead of empty seats.

The conference needs tighter geography and rivals for Cincinnati, Temple, and ECU.

Sounds like the MAC

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(07-03-2019 09:02 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 09:01 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  From day one I have been about Marshall, Dayton, and VCU. Schools in footprint with actual fans. Helps travel, creates a nice northern wing for the league.

Move the basketball tournament to Cincinnati you get a sellouts in a new arena instead of empty seats.

The conference needs tighter geography and rivals for Cincinnati, Temple, and ECU.

Sounds like the MAC

Yes, a remarkably stable conference through decades of realignment with growing media revenue. Clearly the AAC doesn't want to aim for MAC levels ... but there are some aspects of the path ... that is, the movement over time ... that it might aim for.

(07-03-2019 09:01 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  From day one I have been about Marshall, Dayton, and VCU. Schools in footprint with actual fans. Helps travel, creates a nice northern wing for the league.

Move the basketball tournament to Cincinnati you get a sellouts in a new arena instead of empty seats.

The conference needs tighter geography and rivals for Cincinnati, Temple, and ECU.

Agreed. We have also proven to average around 28k/game when in a conference with AAC teams.

We would be a close travel partner for Cincinnati. Our basketball/football attendance as well as name recognition make us the best choice out of the MAC/CUSA/Sun Belt teams.

(07-03-2019 09:01 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  From day one I have been about Marshall, Dayton, and VCU. Schools in footprint with actual fans. Helps travel, creates a nice northern wing for the league.

Move the basketball tournament to Cincinnati you get a sellouts in a new arena instead of empty seats.

The conference needs tighter geography and rivals for Cincinnati, Temple, and ECU.

Not going to happen..

I am not saying this as a dig on Marshall, but this conference is focusing on locales south of Cincinnati. The HQ is moving to Dallas, the men's basketball tournament is going to be in suburban Dallas for the next three years. All major news stories from the conference break out of Dallas, Orlando and Memphis- not a coincidence.

(07-03-2019 08:47 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  If Marshall is the best choice, we need to stand pat at 11.

Dang, we agree

(07-01-2019 06:48 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 04:46 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 01:45 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  If we had to add an all sports member (not Army or BYU), I'd pick Marshall.

We would love to be in a conference with UCF again. From the MAC to CUSA and hopefully now in the AAC.

Marshall would probably get a lot of support from UCF, ECU, and UC fans, maybe Memphis too. I've long be in favor of a home and home yearly ooc series with Marshall and UCF. Would be fun for both schools.

Let's pump the breaks and remember that, while a lot of us agreed with the OP's points, point #1 (the best choice if the AAC is unable to get BYU, Army, or any of the MWC teams) is probably the most important one.

(07-01-2019 04:45 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:47 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:20 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 09:49 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I love how ODU's $46MM 55% subsidized budget is god awful, but Marshall's $30MM 50% subsidized budget is amazing.

If Marshall is accepted and gets a full cut of the AAC media deal, they'd still be $10MM below what ODU's budget is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No one cares how much you spend on Tennis and/or tiddly winks.

Have fun with your 22k seat stadium. You didn't even average 20k/game last year. Get serious.

Marshall is the ONLY reasonable candidate to average over 24k/game in football and over 6k/game in basketball.

We also have the best TV ratings out of every reasonable candidate. No comparison.

24K? That's what you're bragging about? And when was the last time Marshall had averaged over 6,000 in basketball?

No I'm not bragging about it. We averaged around 28k/game when we were with the current AAC members. Which puts us right on par with the majority of the conference.

Our measly 24k is still 2k more than your upgraded stadium holds.

We averaged over 6k/game in basketball this past season. It would only increase playing in the AAC. We didn't sell out a single game for CUSA teams but had sell outs of around 10k for Memphis and UCF back when we were conference mates with them.

If Marshall weren't in a state losing population, they would be a better choice. As it is, that makes them a bit of a risk for 20 years down the road.