(06-25-2019 03:09 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:04 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:47 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 12:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 11:40 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  CAAF is a football only conference
MVFC is a football only conference
Pioneer League is a football only conference

FBS voting is tied to conferences that meet the definition of an FBS conference ie. 8 members playing all sports including FBS football in the league.

A football only FBS league loses its seat at the table.

So the only downside is you don't get to vote? Big deal.

There's a much bigger downside than NCAA voting rights. It's that most if not all schools that might join a football-only conference, or play football as an indy, would struggle to find a conference for their other sports that is at the same level as the conference they would be leaving.

That's a big issue for the power schools. There's more non-football options for G5 and FCS-level schools: The A10, CAA, Horizon, MVC, OVC and Southern come to mind as viable conferences for the basketball teams of schools whose football programs are going indie or joining a football-only conference). But that's fine for ODU and Marshall and Air Force; not Virginia Tech and West Virginia and Colorado.

You'd almost need a public-school equivalent of the Big East to make it a reasonable option and that's not exactly going to happen tomorrow.

You're right, it would be less difficult for G5 football teams to go indy or join a FB-only conference. Though there's also not so much reason for them to do so -- it might look fun in the abstract to mix and match some of those teams into a FB-only conference, but IMO there are only about a half dozen G5 football programs that could juice up their donations and ticket sales by playing a BYU-like indy football schedule. And even those programs would be taking a risk of having poorer W-L records as indies than they do in their current conference.

(06-25-2019 11:40 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 11:24 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  Unfortunately the NCAA ruled football only conferences out of existence. Hence the Yankee conference went to the A10, who had no want for football and allowed, Richmond, a new member to vote for CAA to take over the football conference.

CAAF is a football only conference
MVFC is a football only conference
Pioneer League is a football only conference

CAA football is part of the conference. It's just the MVFC and the Pioneer that are football-only conferences in DI.

(06-25-2019 07:57 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 07:51 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Who cares what the womens BBall coach thinks? This move wasn't made for him and he'll be gone soon so he wont be around for most of the consequences of it.

UConn's administration, for one. Geno's one of the, and perhaps full-stop the, AD's best assets and was one of the driving forces behind the move to the Big East, so I'd say the school cares plenty about his opinion, as they should.

I haven't heard a single thing about Geno being the force behind the move. In fact his quotes make it seem like he's not a huge fan of it.

(06-25-2019 01:47 PM)jwawker Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 07:51 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 07:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  couple of things from Geno from the linked piece....
- Auriemma said he isn't sure what the move means for the future of UConn's football program. But the coach said he can foresee a day when all schools, not just UConn, have multiple conference affiliations based on what is best for each sport. UConn plays hockey in Hockey East and has retained its Big East membership in field hockey and lacrosse.

- Auriemma also challenged UConn fans, many of whom, as he noted, have been calling for the Huskies to rejoin the Big East for six years, to back up their preference by attending more games.
"So if this does happen, there better be 16,000 at the XL Center every night," Auriemma said.

The first point is interesting. I really don't know how possible that is.

And the 2nd point is really going to be interesting to watch.

Who cares what the womens BBall coach thinks? This move wasn't made for him and he'll be gone soon so he wont be around for most of the consequences of it.

Where did you read he will be gone soon? He is in his mid 60s and on top of the world in Connecticut. Nobody is around forever but no reason he is not around for several more years.

Yeah, mid-60's, how long you think he's gonna coach? Another 10-15 years? I doubt it.

(06-25-2019 04:05 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 07:57 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 07:51 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Who cares what the womens BBall coach thinks? This move wasn't made for him and he'll be gone soon so he wont be around for most of the consequences of it.

UConn's administration, for one. Geno's one of the, and perhaps full-stop the, AD's best assets and was one of the driving forces behind the move to the Big East, so I'd say the school cares plenty about his opinion, as they should.

I haven't heard a single thing about Geno being the force behind the move. In fact his quotes make it seem like he's not a huge fan of it.

The Courant's write-up today specifically said that Geno was one of the driving forces behind the move. I think he's just not saying much because nothing's official yet.

(06-25-2019 07:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  couple of things from Geno from the linked piece....
- Auriemma said he isn't sure what the move means for the future of UConn's football program. But the coach said he can foresee a day when all schools, not just UConn, have multiple conference affiliations based on what is best for each sport. UConn plays hockey in Hockey East and has retained its Big East membership in field hockey and lacrosse.

- Auriemma also challenged UConn fans, many of whom, as he noted, have been calling for the Huskies to rejoin the Big East for six years, to back up their preference by attending more games.
"So if this does happen, there better be 16,000 at the XL Center every night," Auriemma said.

The first point is interesting. I really don't know how possible that is.

And the 2nd point is really going to be interesting to watch.

For the first point, that is already happening with some schools - albeit quietly.

For example. Sac State plays baseball in the WAC, beach volleyball and men's soccer in the Big West, and everything else in the Big Sky.

Denver plays lacrosse in the Big East, hockey in the NCHC, gymnastics in the Big 12, and basketball in the Summit.

Air Force has several sports in different conferences too.