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RE: Cincy newspaper: AAC unlikely to replace UConn
(06-26-2019 05:23 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt loves linear tv
odu09 still prefers exponential tv
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RE: Cincy newspaper: AAC unlikely to replace UConn
(06-26-2019 06:49 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 04:44 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:00 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 01:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  What is a brand? If you already have it those picking CUSA TV games would pick the "brand" to be on TV more often? Other words S. Miss football should be controlling the CUSA TV games...even if they are limited. Would you agree with that?

If you go back and read this board EVERY preseason S. Miss is going to surprise people. At some point the law of averages will take place.

Well, Southern Miss does have FIVE linear TV games this Fall. That's tied for the most in CUSA (along w/ LT, Rice, and FAU). Also, not sure about theirs but FWIW ours are all on Saturdays too:
@ Mississippi State ESPNU
@ Alabama SECN
@ La Tech NFL Network
vs. UAB NFL Network
@ FAU NFL Network

Two of those are not CUSA controlled games. Anyone that plays a sec team will be on TV

But let me give you the answer to the total amount of times S. Miss was choose for a tier 1 CUSA TV game. Between the years 2014-2018....7 games and 2 of those were vs a SEC school. Our Tier 1 usually picks game vs P5

That would be less than half of Marshall and about a 1/3 of Western's "cusa tv games"

Tier 1 schmear 1. The only "tier" games I care about (and I'm sure most in the CFB world would agree) are the ones that you can actually watch on a television set and not have to be streamed through the whataburger app.

Here's everyone's linear tv schedule this fall:

UAB - 4
@ Akron CBS Sports
vs. South Alabama NFL Network
@ Tennesse NFL Network
@ Southern Miss NFL Network

North Texas - 3
@ Cal PAC12 Network (more than likely)
vs. UTEP NFL Network
@ Rice NFL Network

Southern Miss - 5
@ Mississippi State ESPNU
@ Alabama SECN (more than likely or ESPNU)
@ La Tech NFL Network
vs. UAB NFL Network
@ FAU NFL Network

La Tech - 5
@ Texas Longhorn Network
vs Grambling NFL Network
vs. FIU CBS Sports Network
vs. Southern Miss NFL Network
@ Marshall CBS Sports

UTSA - 3
@ Baylor FSN
vs Army NFL Network
@ TAMU SECN (more than likely or ESPNU)

UTEP - 2
@ Texas Tech FSN
@ UNT NFL Network

Rice - 5
@ Army CBS Sports Network
vs. Wake Forest ACCN (more than likely)
vs. Texas CBS Sports Network
vs. Baylor CBS Sports Network
vs. North Texas NFL Network

MTSU - 3
@ Michigan BTN
@ Iowa ESPN/2/U
vs FIU NFL Network

Marshall - 4
@ Boise State ESPN
@ FAU CBS Sports Network
vs. La Tech CBS Sports Network
vs. FIU CBS Sports Network

FIU - 4
@ La Tech CBS Sports Network
@ MTSU NFL Network
vs. Miami CBS Sports Network
@ Marshall CBS Sports Network

Charlotte - 2
@ Clemson ACCN (more than likely)
vs. FAU NFL Network

FAU - 5
@ Ohio State
vs. UCF CBS Sports Network
@ Charlotte NFL Network
vs. Marshall CBS Sports Network
vs. Southern Miss NFL Network

ODU - 2
@ Va Tech ESPNU
@ Virginia ACCN (more than likeley)

WKU - 1
@ Arkansas SECN (more than likely)

That's what I said...TV= tier 1

S. Miss had 7 games shown on TV, controlled by CUSA TV partners from 2014-2018. Western had 21 not counting 5 others on FSN which is TV but I believe Tier 2

That's not counting games controlled by other conferences like the Bama or Miss game S. Miss is playing. BTW the NFL Network picked games that wasn't already picked by Stadium, CBSsn and even facebook, most likely even espn+

Look I dont blame you for only wanting to look at this coming season....7 TV games vs 25 for Western. As I said you would think if someone already had a national brand the CUSA TV Partners would be falling all over their self to show the game of the school with a "brand".

That just isnt the facts

2012-2014 were the absolute DARKEST times in Southern Miss football history...the Ellis Johnson death penalty of 2012 followed by the subsequent MASS EXODUS of every decent player we had on our roster. Todd Monken inherited like 14 players. It was that depleted. It was only a few years ago that we we're just able to get to a full 85 schollys. It's no wonder we didn't have that many linear TV games then...why would tv networks want to pick up games for a school that was going 4-32 over the course of those 3 years??? If you don't understand why USM didn't have many games during this time then you haven't been paying attention...
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RE: Cincy newspaper: AAC unlikely to replace UConn
(06-26-2019 07:21 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 06:49 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 04:44 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:00 PM)TTT Wrote:  Well, Southern Miss does have FIVE linear TV games this Fall. That's tied for the most in CUSA (along w/ LT, Rice, and FAU). Also, not sure about theirs but FWIW ours are all on Saturdays too:
@ Mississippi State ESPNU
@ Alabama SECN
@ La Tech NFL Network
vs. UAB NFL Network
@ FAU NFL Network

Two of those are not CUSA controlled games. Anyone that plays a sec team will be on TV

But let me give you the answer to the total amount of times S. Miss was choose for a tier 1 CUSA TV game. Between the years 2014-2018....7 games and 2 of those were vs a SEC school. Our Tier 1 usually picks game vs P5

That would be less than half of Marshall and about a 1/3 of Western's "cusa tv games"

Tier 1 schmear 1. The only "tier" games I care about (and I'm sure most in the CFB world would agree) are the ones that you can actually watch on a television set and not have to be streamed through the whataburger app.

Here's everyone's linear tv schedule this fall:

UAB - 4
@ Akron CBS Sports
vs. South Alabama NFL Network
@ Tennesse NFL Network
@ Southern Miss NFL Network

North Texas - 3
@ Cal PAC12 Network (more than likely)
vs. UTEP NFL Network
@ Rice NFL Network

Southern Miss - 5
@ Mississippi State ESPNU
@ Alabama SECN (more than likely or ESPNU)
@ La Tech NFL Network
vs. UAB NFL Network
@ FAU NFL Network

La Tech - 5
@ Texas Longhorn Network
vs Grambling NFL Network
vs. FIU CBS Sports Network
vs. Southern Miss NFL Network
@ Marshall CBS Sports

UTSA - 3
@ Baylor FSN
vs Army NFL Network
@ TAMU SECN (more than likely or ESPNU)

UTEP - 2
@ Texas Tech FSN
@ UNT NFL Network

Rice - 5
@ Army CBS Sports Network
vs. Wake Forest ACCN (more than likely)
vs. Texas CBS Sports Network
vs. Baylor CBS Sports Network
vs. North Texas NFL Network

MTSU - 3
@ Michigan BTN
@ Iowa ESPN/2/U
vs FIU NFL Network

Marshall - 4
@ Boise State ESPN
@ FAU CBS Sports Network
vs. La Tech CBS Sports Network
vs. FIU CBS Sports Network

FIU - 4
@ La Tech CBS Sports Network
@ MTSU NFL Network
vs. Miami CBS Sports Network
@ Marshall CBS Sports Network

Charlotte - 2
@ Clemson ACCN (more than likely)
vs. FAU NFL Network

FAU - 5
@ Ohio State
vs. UCF CBS Sports Network
@ Charlotte NFL Network
vs. Marshall CBS Sports Network
vs. Southern Miss NFL Network

ODU - 2
@ Va Tech ESPNU
@ Virginia ACCN (more than likeley)

WKU - 1
@ Arkansas SECN (more than likely)

That's what I said...TV= tier 1

S. Miss had 7 games shown on TV, controlled by CUSA TV partners from 2014-2018. Western had 21 not counting 5 others on FSN which is TV but I believe Tier 2

That's not counting games controlled by other conferences like the Bama or Miss game S. Miss is playing. BTW the NFL Network picked games that wasn't already picked by Stadium, CBSsn and even facebook, most likely even espn+

Look I dont blame you for only wanting to look at this coming season....7 TV games vs 25 for Western. As I said you would think if someone already had a national brand the CUSA TV Partners would be falling all over their self to show the game of the school with a "brand".

That just isnt the facts

2012-2014 were the absolute DARKEST times in Southern Miss football history...the Ellis Johnson death penalty of 2012 followed by the subsequent MASS EXODUS of every decent player we had on our roster. Todd Monken inherited like 14 players. It was that depleted. It was only a few years ago that we we're just able to get to a full 85 schollys. It's no wonder we didn't have that many linear TV games then...why would tv networks want to pick up games for a school that was going 4-32 over the course of those 3 years??? If you don't understand why USM didn't have many games during this time then you haven't been paying attention...

I believe you are confusing 2012-2014 with 2014-2018. But do wins matter if you have the brand? Plus 2015 S. Miss played for a conference championship.

2012 Western was only a few years removed from winning 4 games (total) over 3 seasons of football...2008,2009, 2010

I think you might be fudging that 14 number just a little. I checked top 6 rushers, top 14 on tackles and top 6 in catches...that all I checked

4 of the top 6 rushers for 2013 also played in 2012
top 14 tackles on defense and 11 played after 2012
3 out of top 6 in catches played 2012 and after

edit: 2013 Roster had 65 players with a Red Shirt year...that means all were on the 2012 team. Not counting players with out a redshirt years

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RE: Cincy newspaper: AAC unlikely to replace UConn
The AAC Commissioner has not ruled out replacing UConn. However, the school has to “enhance your brand or enhance the strength of the conference", want to join, and be "a good cultural and strategic fit."

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/c...ssion=true

I read elsewhere that the AAC will not be limited to the Northeast.
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RE: Cincy newspaper: AAC unlikely to replace UConn
(06-27-2019 04:28 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The AAC Commissioner has not ruled out replacing UConn. However, the school has to “enhance your brand or enhance the strength of the conference", want to join, and be "a good cultural and strategic fit."

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/c...ssion=true

I read elsewhere that the AAC will not be limited to the Northeast.

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AAC commissioner Mike Aresco has ruled out UConn remaining in the conference as a football-only member.

"It is not a possibility," he just told me. "We have no interest in keeping UConn in football if they're not going to play in our league in their main sport, basketball."
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RE: Cincy newspaper: AAC unlikely to replace UConn
(06-25-2019 08:15 AM)hoppy785 Wrote:  The teams that help or at least don't hurt the P6 brand they've created don't want to join and in my opinion adding anyone else will make the P6 brand even more laughable than it is.

I think the conference sees the writing on the wall and will ride out this money as long as they can. The next round of shuffling will destroy one G5 conference and put all that's left on equal tv money.

Lots of C-USA and Sunbelt teams are better at football than UConn and would raise the overall strength of AAC versus AAC with UConn. However, if they aren't going to lose any money over UConn leaving, or at least what they lose can't be made up by any addition, then standing pat makes sense. I have trouble believing they don't lose any TV money when they lose their premier basketball school, but I can believe than no one available could offset that loss.
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