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UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box. aka different
UCONN leaving doesn’t have to be the beginning of the end of the AAC, but if our conference leaders don’t act wisely, it very well may be.

It’s already been proven that UAB, USM etc. don’t move the needle. It was a huge mistake adding the likes of Tulane & Tulsa and ECU. Adding UAB or USM would only further that mistake.

It’s already been proven that coast to coast leagues fail.

Go different. Northern Illinois? Help Missouri State improve in football? Georgia State? Arkansas State? Texas State?

Think different. We are stuck in a 50 year rut of doing the same things over and over and over again and expecting different results. Our conference already gave in and took Wichita State that has no football. It’s amazing how we keep going back to the old girlfriend and expecting her to be different.

Think different folks. IMHO UCONN is smart. This was the best move for them. Not for Memphis, but for UCONN. It’s time for the AAC to act in the best interest of all schools. Or other schools will do what’s best for them as well.
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RE: UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box. aka different
if we're going to go 'different' let Liberty buy their way in.

they offered CUSA 24 million...tell em to offer the AAC 34 million + the entrance fee.

hold our nose for some financial security.
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RE: UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box. aka different
We didn't give in to Wichita State, we are lucky to have them, especially now with UConn leaving.

And the AAC is in no danger. We have the best G5 TV contract by far. It's already been reported that UConn leaving doesn't affect the contract.

If those are the teams, AAC should absolutely stay at 11. And Houston and Cincy and UCF will bolt for a P5 if offered in 5 or so years, nothing we can do about that.
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RE: UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box. aka different
Being proactive would be different for the AAC and this collection of schools. That means not sitting around and waiting to be plucked. Keep building the conference brand. You do that by becoming as regional and tightly fit as possible. UCONN leaving can become a positive thing. If we add the right school. Sitting still and adding no one helps nothing.

Don’t add Army. Don’t add UAB. Don’t add USM. No more basketball only schools. No more football only schools. Unless of course we want to replicate every failed model we’ve tried before.
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My #1 choice is Georgia State btw.
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RE: UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box. aka different
(06-22-2019 11:12 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Being proactive would be different for the AAC and this collection of schools. That means not sitting around and waiting to be plucked. Keep building the conference brand. You do that by becoming as regional and tightly fit as possible. UCONN leaving can become a positive thing. If we add the right school. Sitting still and adding no one helps nothing.

Don’t add Army. Don’t add UAB. Don’t add USM. No more basketball only schools. No more football only schools. Unless of course we want to replicate every failed model we’ve tried before.

I would add UNLV basketball only and Boise and BYU football only in a heartbeat. Despite your hallucinations about failed models.
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(06-22-2019 11:13 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  My #1 choice is Georgia State btw.

Good God.
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(06-22-2019 11:15 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:12 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Being proactive would be different for the AAC and this collection of schools. That means not sitting around and waiting to be plucked. Keep building the conference brand. You do that by becoming as regional and tightly fit as possible. UCONN leaving can become a positive thing. If we add the right school. Sitting still and adding no one helps nothing.

Don’t add Army. Don’t add UAB. Don’t add USM. No more basketball only schools. No more football only schools. Unless of course we want to replicate every failed model we’ve tried before.

I would add UNLV basketball only and Boise and BYU football only in a heartbeat. Despite your hallucinations about failed models.

Give me an example of a spread out model that has succeeded. And then give me an example of a conference that has succeeded with a
Bunch of football only and basketball only schools. I’ll wait.

Go further west? Good god.
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(06-22-2019 11:00 PM)Tigx Wrote:  We didn't give in to Wichita State, we are lucky to have them, especially now with UConn leaving.

And the AAC is in no danger. We have the best G5 TV contract by far. It's already been reported that UConn leaving doesn't affect the contract.

If those are the teams, AAC should absolutely stay at 11. And Houston and Cincy and UCF will bolt for a P5 if offered in 5 or so years, nothing we can do about that.

The report was the contract would not be negated (dissolved) but there is wording to allow renegotiation with the loss of a team. So the contract COULD be affected.
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RE: UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box. aka different
(06-22-2019 11:17 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:15 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:12 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Being proactive would be different for the AAC and this collection of schools. That means not sitting around and waiting to be plucked. Keep building the conference brand. You do that by becoming as regional and tightly fit as possible. UCONN leaving can become a positive thing. If we add the right school. Sitting still and adding no one helps nothing.

Don’t add Army. Don’t add UAB. Don’t add USM. No more basketball only schools. No more football only schools. Unless of course we want to replicate every failed model we’ve tried before.

I would add UNLV basketball only and Boise and BYU football only in a heartbeat. Despite your hallucinations about failed models.

Give me an example of a spread out model that has succeeded. And then give me an example of a conference that has succeeded with a
Bunch of football only and basketball only schools. I’ll wait.

Better yet, why don't we just join Georgia State in the Sun Belt? Or Missouri State in the MVC? Great ideas Big D. Jesus Christ, why not just drop down to FCS if any sane person wants to be in a conference with those types of schools.
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(06-22-2019 11:23 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:00 PM)Tigx Wrote:  We didn't give in to Wichita State, we are lucky to have them, especially now with UConn leaving.

And the AAC is in no danger. We have the best G5 TV contract by far. It's already been reported that UConn leaving doesn't affect the contract.

If those are the teams, AAC should absolutely stay at 11. And Houston and Cincy and UCF will bolt for a P5 if offered in 5 or so years, nothing we can do about that.

The report was the contract would not be negated (dissolved) but there is wording to allow renegotiation with the loss of a team. So the contract COULD be affected.

And you can bet losing our biggest Tv market will affect it. UConn May end up making more money than any AAC school. Like I said, this is a smart move for UCONN.
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RE: UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box: aka Georgia State
(06-22-2019 11:24 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:17 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:15 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:12 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Being proactive would be different for the AAC and this collection of schools. That means not sitting around and waiting to be plucked. Keep building the conference brand. You do that by becoming as regional and tightly fit as possible. UCONN leaving can become a positive thing. If we add the right school. Sitting still and adding no one helps nothing.

Don’t add Army. Don’t add UAB. Don’t add USM. No more basketball only schools. No more football only schools. Unless of course we want to replicate every failed model we’ve tried before.

I would add UNLV basketball only and Boise and BYU football only in a heartbeat. Despite your hallucinations about failed models.

Give me an example of a spread out model that has succeeded. And then give me an example of a conference that has succeeded with a
Bunch of football only and basketball only schools. I’ll wait.

Better yet, why don't we just join Georgia State in the Sun Belt? Or Missouri State in the MVC? Great ideas Big D. Jesus Christ, why not just drop down to FCS if any sane person wants to be in a conference with those types of schools.

So you are making a statement of hyperbole. Because that’s not the suggestion. The suggestion is to take the team in a market that has the most potential out of a league and add them to ours. Georgia State is primed with potential. More than half the teams currently in the AAC.

Still waiting for dem examples doe.
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RE: UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box. aka different
(06-22-2019 11:23 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:00 PM)Tigx Wrote:  We didn't give in to Wichita State, we are lucky to have them, especially now with UConn leaving.

And the AAC is in no danger. We have the best G5 TV contract by far. It's already been reported that UConn leaving doesn't affect the contract.

If those are the teams, AAC should absolutely stay at 11. And Houston and Cincy and UCF will bolt for a P5 if offered in 5 or so years, nothing we can do about that.

The report was the contract would not be negated (dissolved) but there is wording to allow renegotiation with the loss of a team. So the contract COULD be affected.

It won't stay exactly the same if we don't replace UConn, after all there is one less school in the deal. But if it decreases by $7M with UConn leaving, the payout per team stays the same.

From Pete Thamel's article: https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-u-conn-...00471.html

For the AAC, the loss of UConn is not expected to impact the television deal significantly. In the contract language, the departure of just one school from the AAC wouldn’t trigger a termination of the deal from ESPN.

In terms of exit fees, AAC bylaws say that any school which departs would be obligated to pay approximately $10 million. Historically, those numbers end up being negotiated.

For the AAC, the next likely move would be to follow the model they have with Navy as a football-only and add a school like Army or Air Force. Then they’d follow up that move and add a basketball power like they recently did with Wichita State. (VCU would be the most logical target there.)


If true, smart for the AAC to think this way. Despite the allures of the Missouri States of the world. That is sarcasm, Big D.
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(06-22-2019 11:28 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:24 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:17 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:15 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 11:12 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Being proactive would be different for the AAC and this collection of schools. That means not sitting around and waiting to be plucked. Keep building the conference brand. You do that by becoming as regional and tightly fit as possible. UCONN leaving can become a positive thing. If we add the right school. Sitting still and adding no one helps nothing.

Don’t add Army. Don’t add UAB. Don’t add USM. No more basketball only schools. No more football only schools. Unless of course we want to replicate every failed model we’ve tried before.

I would add UNLV basketball only and Boise and BYU football only in a heartbeat. Despite your hallucinations about failed models.

Give me an example of a spread out model that has succeeded. And then give me an example of a conference that has succeeded with a
Bunch of football only and basketball only schools. I’ll wait.

Better yet, why don't we just join Georgia State in the Sun Belt? Or Missouri State in the MVC? Great ideas Big D. Jesus Christ, why not just drop down to FCS if any sane person wants to be in a conference with those types of schools.

So you are making a statement of hyperbole.

Yes, hyperbole to match your insanity. Missouri State. Unbelievable.
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???

How the hell is this one move, should UConn leave, something that could be the 'end' of the American?

UConn brings NOTHING to football.

In their six seasons in the AAC, they were an NCAA Tournament team twice, and not since 2016.

We are a three-four bid league with or without them.

Quit being so dramatic.
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Good Lord, the beginning of the end?? How about addition by subtraction. Is we don't add anyone we are better off. We don't need UCONN to help our basketball program. We need a stronger conference to help our football team. UCONN was a complete negative in that respect. Good riddance. If we add even a decent football program this is great news.
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RE: UCONN’s replacement has to be outside the box. aka different
its pointless to ask questions like this.
In this forum, you will have people who will bash you, if your ideas do not align up to theirs.
Everyone's opinion here is valid...there is no ONE RIGHT opinion.
No one knows everything...we just make somewhat educated guesses..as we see it.

UConn(ed) was in a bad situation.
This is a problem you face when you create new sports conferences...and add teams with absolutely no history of playing one another.
Its hard to work up a healthy/friendly hatred or create a rivalry for a team you really don't care about.
In this instance...we can add someone we have history with.
Doesn't matter if its Arky StAte, UAB, USM, or Middle Tennessee State. We wouldn't have to invent a rivalry.

Boise State has turned us down. BYU will turn us down.
If we want to be seen as a P6 league...as someone to be seen seriously...we need to have 12 teams in place. The Big 12 lost out on 2 championship playoffs in the first 2 years because they did not have 12 teams.
That means swallowing our pride...and taking a chance on a team that "doesn't move the needle" for some of us.

Quick question.
Who here would watch a game of Tulane and ECU in basketball, on a Monday night..if it were the only AAC game on?
Not many...if any.
THEY don't move the needle.
So why hold that standard over someone like a USM or a UAB...who could take the positive exposure and money of the AAC and do something with it to better themselves? Make them good conference mates with competitive teams...being able to recruit better with the higher profile..and hiring better coaches with increased tv money?

None of us are all going to agree on who or whom to invite...so we can agree to disagree...without being jerks and calling names.
If you do not agree with me...fine.
We can be civil..I would hope.
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Some how i wish we could drop Tulane and Tulsa and add 3 or 4 of the best teams available from Mountain West and/or BYU
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I really don't want someone past Texas or too far north.

Is there a Big East school playing football? Not really

Here's our choices (none are good, and some are bad):

Conference USA...Florida Atlantic, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, USM and UAB
Independents...Army, BYU, New Mexico State
Mid American...Buffalo, Toledo
Mountain West...Air Force, Boise State, UNLV
Sun Belt...University of Louisiana, Arkansas State

If they left the decision to me, and since the choices are this bad, they might as well, here would be my top five, with football average attendance from 2018, 2017, 2016, and I would take the one that seemed the most excited, had the best facilities already and drew the biggest attendance.

I would ask Villanova too but there's really no point, they did not invest in football last time around
Florida Atlantic 17,051 18,948 10,073
Middle Tennessee 15,577 15,620 17,243
UAB 24,291 26,375 00,000
Boise State 33,068 31,126 34, 273
UNLV 16,823 17, 449 18,389

Oh and Memphis 36,302 30,178 37,346

Florida Atlantic, MTSU and UNLV are similarly supported, So I'd talk to UAB and Boise first.
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(06-23-2019 08:04 AM)Tiger5 Wrote:  Some how i wish we could drop Tulane and Tulsa and add 3 or 4 of the best teams available from Mountain West and/or BYU

I only remember a few instances of teams being kicked out of a conference..more than likely teams would just gather together...bolt their conferences...and form another one...as we did the Metro, Great Midwest, and CUSA.
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