Charlotte is R1

Southern Miss is R1, despite what you read on message boards.
https://www.wdam.com/2019/01/18/usm-rank...-research/

(06-23-2019 08:34 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:41 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Like I said in another thread, If the AAC expands, the school will be either a service academy or a Carnegie R2 classification school. The AAC school presidents will make the final choice and they like to be associated with similar academic institutions. I believe all the existing members of the AAC are Carnegie R1 or R2?


That said, I don't think the AAC will expand in the near future, but who knows?

Besides North Texas, which other CUSA members are Carnegie R1? And for the record I think the AAC will sit tight when UCONN leaves.

I dont care what your r status is, but im pretty sure Rice kicks your ass all over the country in academics.

Rice, UAB, FIU, NT, USM, Charlotte all R1.
Did I miss anyone?

Usm, uab, Marshall, Charlotte and odu are top candidates imo.

(06-23-2019 08:59 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 08:34 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 06:41 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Like I said in another thread, If the AAC expands, the school will be either a service academy or a Carnegie R2 classification school. The AAC school presidents will make the final choice and they like to be associated with similar academic institutions. I believe all the existing members of the AAC are Carnegie R1 or R2?


That said, I don't think the AAC will expand in the near future, but who knows?

Besides North Texas, which other CUSA members are Carnegie R1? And for the record I think the AAC will sit tight when UCONN leaves.

I dont care what your r status is, but im pretty sure Rice kicks your ass all over the country in academics.

Really? I didn't know that. Geeze! Rice kicks ass in academics for sure.
If the ACC is looking strictly at academics, the Rice is a shoe-in.

IMHO FIU has a legitimate chance of receiving an invite from the AAC. Considering our academics, size (6th largest university in the US) and location, FIU is very attractive. Our potential is sky high. IIRC FIU was the first school to receive an invite from CUSA 3.0. I could be wrong but unless UCF and USF are against it, we have a good chance.

(06-22-2019 11:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:18 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Marshall is not in the hunt. We will make a hell of a case and put up one helluva fight, but in the end, it comes down to numbers. The only thing we can hope for is that ESPN and the AAC presidents value our brand and can forgive our small budget and lack of ability to increase it. Marshall just cAnt go from 30 mil to 45+.

We just dont fit the model. I hope im wrong.

Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

You seem to take this **** seriously like someone else cant see it different than you.

Could you explain these to me?

1. Big time improvements in facilities.
2. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.
3. Lots of alumni in Florida.

#3 How many is a lot? Why does that matter?

#1 Other than a large football stadium..notice I didnt add anything but large. Explain to me the Big time improvements in facilities.

#2 As for basketball attendance how much of that is because of cheap discounted tickets? Before you try to make a point of they are not cheap or discounted prices.

going by the football attendance and the dollars made off all tickets sold...the basketball attendance does add up to the bottom line.


If A long history with any member of the AAC mattered S. Miss and UAB would be in the AAC

WKU doesnt even compare to Marshall in any aspect.

Our basketball attendance would be 4th highest in the AAC. We sold out of every single season ticket this year so none of that was "discounted tickets."

We are a pretty decent TV market and actually control that market.

WKU averages 14k/game in football......

From your answers I take it that you are a fan that never gets out of Huntington WV to watch sports. Honestly that's the reason I went at your post..100% homier post

First off every ticket that isnt set aside for students should be a season ticket. The Cam Center holds over 9k so show me where Marshall sold 6500 to 7000 season tickets? EDIT: Marshall soldout the 10 lower sections, green, red, and dark blue. What is that 2000 seats?



As for football (and basketball) dont get caught up in announced because it's far from butts in seats. Unlike everyone else in CUSA, `Western's announced attendance is 95% butts sitting in seats. BTW Western sold out every ticket other than maybe 1000 set aside for student. And every game this past season was a sellout. But again Western uses butts in seats


But you really didnt answer my questions. What does the below mean? Unlike you I've been to almost every campus in CUSA and while some people confuse the number of seats as "Big time improvements". It's far from what that means

1. Big time improvements in facilities
2. Lots of alumni in Florida. How many and how does it compare to other CUSA schools and why does it matter?


edit: I'm not going to get in a dick measuring contest with you but I will throw this out there but just because you are clueless

Western has the highest winning % of all teams in CUSA that's played football over 25 years. Western also has more basketball wins (and highest winning %) than any school in CUSA. Hell you can almost add any other 2 CUSA schools together and Western would have more. Western has double the amount of championships as any other school in CUSA since joining the conference. As I said just a little FYI

Trying to compare WKU football to Marshall is laughable at best. Go lay down somewhere.

No one. Don’t waste your breath. ESPN calls the shots

ESPN controls the AAC now, that’s why UConn is leaving. UConn didn’t want their power basketball brand stuck on ESPN+ and wanted control of their tier3 rights

College sports Sunday on ESPNU radio talked about this just now. GaSt, UAB and Liberty is all they talked about in length.

(06-23-2019 09:48 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 11:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:18 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Take your pessimistic butt somewhere else. So sick of this mentality.

Geographically we make the most sense BY FAR. Travel partner for Cincy. Lots of alumni in Florida. History with ECU. Big time improvements in facilities. Now an R2 academic ranking. Name brand and good football history. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.

You seem to take this **** seriously like someone else cant see it different than you.

Could you explain these to me?

1. Big time improvements in facilities.
2. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.
3. Lots of alumni in Florida.

#3 How many is a lot? Why does that matter?

#1 Other than a large football stadium..notice I didnt add anything but large. Explain to me the Big time improvements in facilities.

#2 As for basketball attendance how much of that is because of cheap discounted tickets? Before you try to make a point of they are not cheap or discounted prices.

going by the football attendance and the dollars made off all tickets sold...the basketball attendance does add up to the bottom line.


If A long history with any member of the AAC mattered S. Miss and UAB would be in the AAC

WKU doesnt even compare to Marshall in any aspect.

Our basketball attendance would be 4th highest in the AAC. We sold out of every single season ticket this year so none of that was "discounted tickets."

We are a pretty decent TV market and actually control that market.

WKU averages 14k/game in football......

From your answers I take it that you are a fan that never gets out of Huntington WV to watch sports. Honestly that's the reason I went at your post..100% homier post

First off every ticket that isnt set aside for students should be a season ticket. The Cam Center holds over 9k so show me where Marshall sold 6500 to 7000 season tickets? EDIT: Marshall soldout the 10 lower sections, green, red, and dark blue. What is that 2000 seats?



As for football (and basketball) dont get caught up in announced because it's far from butts in seats. Unlike everyone else in CUSA, `Western's announced attendance is 95% butts sitting in seats. BTW Western sold out every ticket other than maybe 1000 set aside for student. And every game this past season was a sellout. But again Western uses butts in seats


But you really didnt answer my questions. What does the below mean? Unlike you I've been to almost every campus in CUSA and while some people confuse the number of seats as "Big time improvements". It's far from what that means

1. Big time improvements in facilities
2. Lots of alumni in Florida. How many and how does it compare to other CUSA schools and why does it matter?


edit: I'm not going to get in a dick measuring contest with you but I will throw this out there but just because you are clueless

Western has the highest winning % of all teams in CUSA that's played football over 25 years. Western also has more basketball wins (and highest winning %) than any school in CUSA. Hell you can almost add any other 2 CUSA schools together and Western would have more. Western has double the amount of championships as any other school in CUSA since joining the conference. As I said just a little FYI

Trying to compare WKU football to Marshall is laughable at best. Go lay down somewhere.

West Kentucky is one of the biggest jokes in cusa, of not THE biggest loser of a program. Most of their 12 fans have come to realize this and have piped down over the last 2 years. Some are still delusional as ever. Lmao

They briefly mentioned GaSo, UNT, and ODU

Order of best bets.

1. BYU/Army
2. Stay Put at 11
3. Do something crazy (I.e poach the MWC and expand to 14)
4. Go for the markets
5. Longshots with History with other AAC schools (USM & Marshall & UAB, etc.)

Everything else is just message board postulating and chest thumping.

(06-23-2019 10:26 AM)SouthernMissSNu Wrote:  Order of best bets.

1. BYU/Army
2. Stay Put at 11
3. Do something crazy (I.e poach the MWC and expand to 14)
4. Go for the markets
5. Longshots with History (USM & Marshall etc.)

Everything else is just message board postulating and chest thumping.

Did you mean?

5. Longshots with history with other AAC schools.

BYU is not happen, no way BYU would give up their tier 3 rights and be put on ESPN+

(06-23-2019 10:33 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 10:26 AM)SouthernMissSNu Wrote:  Order of best bets.

1. BYU/Army
2. Stay Put at 11
3. Do something crazy (I.e poach the MWC and expand to 14)
4. Go for the markets
5. Longshots with History (USM & Marshall etc.)

Everything else is just message board postulating and chest thumping.

Did you mean?

5. Longshots with history with other AAC schools.

Yep. Edited for clarity.

(06-23-2019 10:20 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 09:48 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 11:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:18 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 08:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  You seem to take this **** seriously like someone else cant see it different than you.

Could you explain these to me?

1. Big time improvements in facilities.
2. Good basketball attendance that would only increase by joining that conference.
3. Lots of alumni in Florida.

#3 How many is a lot? Why does that matter?

#1 Other than a large football stadium..notice I didnt add anything but large. Explain to me the Big time improvements in facilities.

#2 As for basketball attendance how much of that is because of cheap discounted tickets? Before you try to make a point of they are not cheap or discounted prices.

going by the football attendance and the dollars made off all tickets sold...the basketball attendance does add up to the bottom line.


If A long history with any member of the AAC mattered S. Miss and UAB would be in the AAC

WKU doesnt even compare to Marshall in any aspect.

Our basketball attendance would be 4th highest in the AAC. We sold out of every single season ticket this year so none of that was "discounted tickets."

We are a pretty decent TV market and actually control that market.

WKU averages 14k/game in football......

From your answers I take it that you are a fan that never gets out of Huntington WV to watch sports. Honestly that's the reason I went at your post..100% homier post

First off every ticket that isnt set aside for students should be a season ticket. The Cam Center holds over 9k so show me where Marshall sold 6500 to 7000 season tickets? EDIT: Marshall soldout the 10 lower sections, green, red, and dark blue. What is that 2000 seats?



As for football (and basketball) dont get caught up in announced because it's far from butts in seats. Unlike everyone else in CUSA, `Western's announced attendance is 95% butts sitting in seats. BTW Western sold out every ticket other than maybe 1000 set aside for student. And every game this past season was a sellout. But again Western uses butts in seats


But you really didnt answer my questions. What does the below mean? Unlike you I've been to almost every campus in CUSA and while some people confuse the number of seats as "Big time improvements". It's far from what that means

1. Big time improvements in facilities
2. Lots of alumni in Florida. How many and how does it compare to other CUSA schools and why does it matter?


edit: I'm not going to get in a dick measuring contest with you but I will throw this out there but just because you are clueless

Western has the highest winning % of all teams in CUSA that's played football over 25 years. Western also has more basketball wins (and highest winning %) than any school in CUSA. Hell you can almost add any other 2 CUSA schools together and Western would have more. Western has double the amount of championships as any other school in CUSA since joining the conference. As I said just a little FYI

Trying to compare WKU football to Marshall is laughable at best. Go lay down somewhere.

West Kentucky is one of the biggest jokes in cusa, of not THE biggest loser of a program. Most of their 12 fans have come to realize this and have piped down over the last 2 years. Some are still delusional as ever. Lmao

WKU leads the conference in total championships since joining, sounds pretty good to me.

Biggest joke I’ve seen is that empty JV gym y’all play college basketball in.

I always question the accuracy of Wikipedia, and currently it has Rice and UAB listed as Carnagie R1 institutions. Florida Atlantic; Marshall; ODU and UNCC are listed as Carnagie R2 institutions. I will try to find a more reliable source.

Again, I don't know the accuracy of the below link:

https://www.google.com/search?client=fir...-UqnnfuH8Y

Carnegie

http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/lookup/lookup.php

I think since we are losing a eastern school that either Marshall or ODU would be the best fit. And my first choice would be Marshall, they have great history and I think they would fit in our league. ODU is a good choice with location but its going to take sometime to get them going. Also for me its about who could fill up a stadium every Saturday for conference play, I think Marshall with a AAC schedule could do that better than most. Just my two cents.