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(06-23-2019 12:19 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Here's an article with an interesting take using the terms "Harsh Fallout"...

Quote:UConn Leaving The AAC Hints At Harsh Fallout For Wayward League

According to numerous reports, the Connecticut Huskies will be leaving the American Athletic Conference to join the Big East Conference. In turn, it leaves the AAC minus one storied college basketball program... and a school supposedly with a football team.

Jokes aside, while this news is certainly welcomed by the majority of college basketball fans who have fond memories of UConn creating magical moments in Madison Square Garden, this is a significant blow to the AAC — a league largely formed from the desire to chase football money no matter who owned the naming rights to the Big East moniker.

It might be semantics, but UConn never left the Big East. Instead, it was the Catholic Seven that split from Mike Aresco's league (then known as the Big East) as it began to bring in poor basketball programs in the name of football, that reshaped the entire landscape.

The downfall of the Big East was predicted for a few years leading up to the Aresco-Catholic Seven fallout. Sixteen schools left the league prior to the official split, leading Jim Calhoun to suggest a final breaking point between the basketball-only members from Aresco's newer programs was "inevitable."

Summarizing the ordeal in short, the Catholic Seven secured the rights to the Big East name, leaving the rest of the members to rebrand as the American Athletic Conference.

Nevertheless, when the AAC formed, there was hope. Football money was, and still is, king. Basketball can certainly drive in solid revenue for a program. For plenty, it's a cash cow. However, a quality football program can generate so much more to the point it was the literal reason the "old" Big East was willing to bring in lukewarm programs such as the South Florida Bulls.

Unfortunately for UConn, the marriage between their school and the AAC was costing it too much.

Back in January, the school claimed a more than $40 million void in its athletic department budget after the football program lost $8.7 million, men's basketball $5 million and women's basketball more than $3 million in 2018.

While UConn is leaving for what it believes to be greener pastures, the optics don't appear swell for the AAC. Having basketball as the impetus for conference realignment with an athletic department that actually has football is peculiar — painting the foundation of the AAC in poor lighting.

Even with optics aside, if asking someone just a week ago about the American's standing in the realm of college hoops, an optimistic viewpoint would be shared. After all, UConn is a valuable brand and it was about to be coupled with another solid brand back on the uptick, as the Memphis Tigers are entering the 2019-2020 college basketball season with as much hype as any team in the country.

Nonetheless, losing that one, biggest brand they had, is a killer to the AAC from a basketball standpoint. Programs such as the UCF Knights are fine, even if better than given credit for, but no one is going out of their way to consume a team without Tacko Fall. A similar thought can be shared with the SMU Mustangs and Cincinnati Bearcats, though the latter is in a brutal spot since losing Mick Cronin to the UCLA Bruins.

Furthermore, with the league's partnership with ESPN, which UConn voiced concern over back in March, it might become tougher for casual fans to watch the AAC in general. Even though it won't be every game, the league agreed to a 12-year deal with the network to broadcast games on their subscription ESPN+ service. Without UConn's brand attached to this Netflix-for-sports model, it's unlikely fans outside of specific fandom bubbles will voyage through a rarely traversed path to witness Tulsa or Tulane play basketball.

Where exactly does this leave the American?

Ideas are already surfacing about how the league might add a football-only program, then chase an elite college basketball counter. That being said, while nice in theory, why would a program equal — or close — to UConn's stature join a league after the Huskies claimed to have suffered such a massive financial loss since being a member?

There's also the logistics. Or, honestly, the more accurate disregard for it. Conferences were once a haven to logistics, as each league focused its membership base with geography in mind. For the AAC, there's no real rhyme or reason, inserting additional stress on programs that aren't making insane amount of money on travel expenses.

To be fair, it's all conjecture at this point. Nothing is official, even if it's expected, with UConn joining the Big East. There's also a chance, speaking in terms relative to basketball only, the Memphis Tigers become such a transcendent program that this loss can be offset by a single growing commodity.

Relying upon transcendence, however, especially the kind that has no bounds to loyalty, doesn't feel like a great business plan.

Forbes Article

Basketball centric article. The writer has no clue, conferences are spread out all over the place because of football period. It's not the 1980s anymore.
 
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(06-23-2019 09:12 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(06-23-2019 12:19 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Here's an article with an interesting take using the terms "Harsh Fallout"...

Quote:UConn Leaving The AAC Hints At Harsh Fallout For Wayward League

According to numerous reports, the Connecticut Huskies will be leaving the American Athletic Conference to join the Big East Conference. In turn, it leaves the AAC minus one storied college basketball program... and a school supposedly with a football team.

Jokes aside, while this news is certainly welcomed by the majority of college basketball fans who have fond memories of UConn creating magical moments in Madison Square Garden, this is a significant blow to the AAC — a league largely formed from the desire to chase football money no matter who owned the naming rights to the Big East moniker.

It might be semantics, but UConn never left the Big East. Instead, it was the Catholic Seven that split from Mike Aresco's league (then known as the Big East) as it began to bring in poor basketball programs in the name of football, that reshaped the entire landscape.

The downfall of the Big East was predicted for a few years leading up to the Aresco-Catholic Seven fallout. Sixteen schools left the league prior to the official split, leading Jim Calhoun to suggest a final breaking point between the basketball-only members from Aresco's newer programs was "inevitable."

Summarizing the ordeal in short, the Catholic Seven secured the rights to the Big East name, leaving the rest of the members to rebrand as the American Athletic Conference.

Nevertheless, when the AAC formed, there was hope. Football money was, and still is, king. Basketball can certainly drive in solid revenue for a program. For plenty, it's a cash cow. However, a quality football program can generate so much more to the point it was the literal reason the "old" Big East was willing to bring in lukewarm programs such as the South Florida Bulls.

Unfortunately for UConn, the marriage between their school and the AAC was costing it too much.

Back in January, the school claimed a more than $40 million void in its athletic department budget after the football program lost $8.7 million, men's basketball $5 million and women's basketball more than $3 million in 2018.

While UConn is leaving for what it believes to be greener pastures, the optics don't appear swell for the AAC. Having basketball as the impetus for conference realignment with an athletic department that actually has football is peculiar — painting the foundation of the AAC in poor lighting.

Even with optics aside, if asking someone just a week ago about the American's standing in the realm of college hoops, an optimistic viewpoint would be shared. After all, UConn is a valuable brand and it was about to be coupled with another solid brand back on the uptick, as the Memphis Tigers are entering the 2019-2020 college basketball season with as much hype as any team in the country.

Nonetheless, losing that one, biggest brand they had, is a killer to the AAC from a basketball standpoint. Programs such as the UCF Knights are fine, even if better than given credit for, but no one is going out of their way to consume a team without Tacko Fall. A similar thought can be shared with the SMU Mustangs and Cincinnati Bearcats, though the latter is in a brutal spot since losing Mick Cronin to the UCLA Bruins.

Furthermore, with the league's partnership with ESPN, which UConn voiced concern over back in March, it might become tougher for casual fans to watch the AAC in general. Even though it won't be every game, the league agreed to a 12-year deal with the network to broadcast games on their subscription ESPN+ service. Without UConn's brand attached to this Netflix-for-sports model, it's unlikely fans outside of specific fandom bubbles will voyage through a rarely traversed path to witness Tulsa or Tulane play basketball.

Where exactly does this leave the American?

Ideas are already surfacing about how the league might add a football-only program, then chase an elite college basketball counter. That being said, while nice in theory, why would a program equal — or close — to UConn's stature join a league after the Huskies claimed to have suffered such a massive financial loss since being a member?

There's also the logistics. Or, honestly, the more accurate disregard for it. Conferences were once a haven to logistics, as each league focused its membership base with geography in mind. For the AAC, there's no real rhyme or reason, inserting additional stress on programs that aren't making insane amount of money on travel expenses.

To be fair, it's all conjecture at this point. Nothing is official, even if it's expected, with UConn joining the Big East. There's also a chance, speaking in terms relative to basketball only, the Memphis Tigers become such a transcendent program that this loss can be offset by a single growing commodity.

Relying upon transcendence, however, especially the kind that has no bounds to loyalty, doesn't feel like a great business plan.

Forbes Article

Basketball centric article. The writer has no clue, conferences are spread out all over the place because of football period. It's not the 1980s anymore.

Really bad article. UConn was bad fit for the American but most of that is their own fault.

I do believe the American needs to look to improve basketball but they also need the right football school as well. Honestly take the name UConn off the jersey and we would be wondering why the conference hadn’t kicked them out based on horrible football. Thier poor football ranking allowed the Mountain West to finish higher than the American last year which hurts when in comes CFP payouts.
 
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i'd rather the conference not add teams but we are the conference that added tulane. i still don't mind tulsa. i mean sure, i'd kick them out in a minute if that were an option but they aren't exactly terrible at anything
 
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If the conference is going to add a football all sports institution than it needs to be forward looking. The heart of the conference, it seems to me is urban and southern in its background. So the candidates are: Charlotte, Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion and maybe USA(Southern Alabama). None are the top flight candidate that replaces a state flagship school like UConn, but potentially, in the future, 5 to 10 years one of those schools is a good fit for the AAC. This is dependent upon UC not moving up itself. 02-13-banana
 
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(06-24-2019 07:50 AM)ucdsk Wrote:  If the conference is going to add a football all sports institution than it needs to be forward looking. The heart of the conference, it seems to me is urban and southern in its background. So the candidates are: Charlotte, Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion and maybe USA(Southern Alabama). None are the top flight candidate that replaces a state flagship school like UConn, but potentially, in the future, 5 to 10 years one of those schools is a good fit for the AAC. This is dependent upon UC not moving up itself. 02-13-banana

I have not really followed UCONN relegating itself to the Big East very closely, and I would be fine with us not adding a team, but I think Ga. State is the best possible choice.

Gives us a footprint in a big recruiting state
Urban campus with a "new" stadium
Athletic Dept seems to have a bit of momentum

They would still have many of the disadvantages many AAC schools have with lack of fan support and being stuck behind a historical power, but there is enough talent in the south that they would be able to recruit a strong team.
 
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Guys, we already recruit Georgia very well. In fact, we have more guys from the Peach State than Floridians currently on the roster.
 
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My preference is to get out of this crap league.

I hate being in a conference with ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane.

UCONN played to their strength, joined a better basketball conference (at least perception-wise) and will be better off in the long run.

Sure, their football is doomed. It was already doomed.

But honestly, unless we get a P5 lifeline, all G5 football programs are doomed in the long run. UCONN acted now while they still had a chance and a name in hoops.
 
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(06-23-2019 09:38 PM)Lush Wrote:  i'd rather the conference not add teams but we are the conference that added tulane. i still don't mind tulsa. i mean sure, i'd kick them out in a minute if that were an option but they aren't exactly terrible at anything

I will repeat what I said previously. DON'T RUSH. Rushing is different from moving fast. When you rush, you make mistakes.

That said, let me bring up geography. Most of the teams in the conference are a long distance from other conference foes. There is a geographic hole to Cincinnati's south. Atlanta is right in the middle of that hole.

Atlanta is a large television market that sits to the south of Cincinnati and Temple, west of ECU, north of UCF and USF, and east of Memphis and Tulane. It is easy to get to by air (okay, I don't like going through that airport.) It is potentially driveable for fans of all those schools.

There is a large university in Atlanta that would love to "move up" athletically, as they have have some good teams the last few years. The problem is that most people don't know them. They don't have a large following. They don't have a storied history. (We could have said the same thing about UCF and USF until recently.)

The school is Georgia State.

I am not going to push them. And definitely DON'T RUSH. Now is probably not their time. But think about the geography a little before you just say forever no.
 
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(06-24-2019 07:58 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 07:50 AM)ucdsk Wrote:  If the conference is going to add a football all sports institution than it needs to be forward looking. The heart of the conference, it seems to me is urban and southern in its background. So the candidates are: Charlotte, Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion and maybe USA(Southern Alabama). None are the top flight candidate that replaces a state flagship school like UConn, but potentially, in the future, 5 to 10 years one of those schools is a good fit for the AAC. This is dependent upon UC not moving up itself. 02-13-banana

I have not really followed UCONN relegating itself to the Big East very closely, and I would be fine with us not adding a team, but I think Ga. State is the best possible choice.

Gives us a footprint in a big recruiting state
Urban campus with a "new" stadium
Athletic Dept seems to have a bit of momentum

They would still have many of the disadvantages many AAC schools have with lack of fan support and being stuck behind a historical power, but there is enough talent in the south that they would be able to recruit a strong team.

When teams are elevated from the Sunbelt it is to CUSA. See UAB, WKU, etc.

GA State FB 1-7 IC and 2-10 overall, That new FB Stadium holds 24,333 and the BB holds 3,854.

GA State BB is so good we just sent them Noseme (spelling)

The replacement at best is BYU/Army or a MWC and at worst a CUSA or BU or Toledo from MAC.

I am sure a competent Conference CEO has all data analysis at his finger tips. Then again the AAC CEO is Aresco so he may have no clue.
 
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(06-24-2019 08:34 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 07:58 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 07:50 AM)ucdsk Wrote:  If the conference is going to add a football all sports institution than it needs to be forward looking. The heart of the conference, it seems to me is urban and southern in its background. So the candidates are: Charlotte, Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion and maybe USA(Southern Alabama). None are the top flight candidate that replaces a state flagship school like UConn, but potentially, in the future, 5 to 10 years one of those schools is a good fit for the AAC. This is dependent upon UC not moving up itself. 02-13-banana

I have not really followed UCONN relegating itself to the Big East very closely, and I would be fine with us not adding a team, but I think Ga. State is the best possible choice.

Gives us a footprint in a big recruiting state
Urban campus with a "new" stadium
Athletic Dept seems to have a bit of momentum

They would still have many of the disadvantages many AAC schools have with lack of fan support and being stuck behind a historical power, but there is enough talent in the south that they would be able to recruit a strong team.

When teams are elevated from the Sunbelt it is to CUSA. See UAB, WKU, etc.

GA State FB 1-7 IC and 2-10 overall, That new FB Stadium holds 24,333 and the BB holds 3,854.

GA State BB is so good we just sent them Noseme (spelling)

The replacement at best is BYU/Army or a MWC and at worst a CUSA or BU or Toledo from MAC.

I am sure a competent Conference CEO has all data analysis at his finger tips. Then again the AAC CEO is Aresco so he may have no clue.

To be fair, that didn't stop Tulane 03-lmfao
 
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(06-24-2019 08:28 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  
(06-23-2019 09:38 PM)Lush Wrote:  i'd rather the conference not add teams but we are the conference that added tulane. i still don't mind tulsa. i mean sure, i'd kick them out in a minute if that were an option but they aren't exactly terrible at anything

I will repeat what I said previously. DON'T RUSH. Rushing is different from moving fast. When you rush, you make mistakes.

That said, let me bring up geography. Most of the teams in the conference are a long distance from other conference foes. There is a geographic hole to Cincinnati's south. Atlanta is right in the middle of that hole.

Atlanta is a large television market that sits to the south of Cincinnati and Temple, west of ECU, north of UCF and USF, and east of Memphis and Tulane. It is easy to get to by air (okay, I don't like going through that airport.) It is potentially driveable for fans of all those schools.

There is a large university in Atlanta that would love to "move up" athletically, as they have have some good teams the last few years. The problem is that most people don't know them. They don't have a large following. They don't have a storied history. (We could have said the same thing about UCF and USF until recently.)

The school is Georgia State.

I am not going to push them. And definitely DON'T RUSH. Now is probably not their time. But think about the geography a little before you just say forever no.

I agree. Georgia State is on the rise. It's in a similar place USF and UCF were in 2000.

Let's compare four schools:


School A: 53,000 students; $167m endowment; 200,000 living alums
School B: 68,000 students; $183m endowment; 288,000 living alums
School C: 51,000 students; $442m endowment; 330,000 living alums
School D: 34,000 students; $355m endowment; 169,000 living alums




The schools are Georgia State, UCF, USF, and Colorado State.
 
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How about Northern Illinois? Chicago area market?
 
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(06-24-2019 09:16 AM)bearcat72 Wrote:  How about Northern Illinois? Chicago area market?
NIU would be a better option than Ga. State.
 
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(06-24-2019 09:16 AM)bearcat72 Wrote:  How about Northern Illinois? Chicago area market?

You mean DeKalb? Saying NIU brings the Chicago market is like saying Miami U. brings the Cincinnati market-- it just doesn't.

Besides, expanding for media markets is so 10 years ago. Today what is important is how many people will be watching on TV or willing to stream a game off of ESPN+. Other than BYU or maybe Army, none of the schools being mentioned have enough of a fan base to make this worthwhile.
 
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I said this over on the "Main" conference board.

My "preference" (and that's all that it is) is that the AAC sever ties with Tulsa, go back down to 10 teams...play a full round-robin in football (that's the main issue here) and maybe even the "double round-robin" in basketball. That would allow true rivalries to develop and grow.

IMO, Tulsa doesn't "fit." They were added at a time when we thought (as a conference) we needed "Football Success" to bolster the new conference's image...Tulsa never lived up to that and we have "Football Success" with Houston, UCF, and UC. We also added Tulsa when we thought we needed 12 teams to get to a CCG...you can do that now with 10 and the round-robin in football. Tulsa has the smallest enrollment in the Conference, they have piss-poor attendance, and they are not "elite" in anything.

And, for the record, this is "how" you do this...you broker a contract with Tulsa to "go away." Yes, in the short-term it costs $$$, but in the long-term you recoup it. I don't know how much it would cost to make Tulsa go away; I'd start with the $10 Million UConn is going to pay in "exit fees" and start there. The Max would be whatever media money Tulsa has coming to them for the remainder of the Media deal...but even that would be an acceptable price for me because it would allow the Conference to GROW by having rivalries develop because we would now be playing each other home-and-away every year.

Just my opinion...but that's what I'd like to see happen.
 
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(06-24-2019 09:59 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I said this over on the "Main" conference board.

My "preference" (and that's all that it is) is that the AAC sever ties with Tulsa, go back down to 10 teams...play a full round-robin in football (that's the main issue here) and maybe even the "double round-robin" in basketball. That would allow true rivalries to develop and grow.

IMO, Tulsa doesn't "fit." They were added at a time when we thought (as a conference) we needed "Football Success" to bolster the new conference's image...Tulsa never lived up to that and we have "Football Success" with Houston, UCF, and UC. We also added Tulsa when we thought we needed 12 teams to get to a CCG...you can do that now with 10 and the round-robin in football. Tulsa has the smallest enrollment in the Conference, they have piss-poor attendance, and they are not "elite" in anything.

And, for the record, this is "how" you do this...you broker a contract with Tulsa to "go away." Yes, in the short-term it costs $$$, but in the long-term you recoup it. I don't know how much it would cost to make Tulsa go away; I'd start with the $10 Million UConn is going to pay in "exit fees" and start there. The Max would be whatever media money Tulsa has coming to them for the remainder of the Media deal...but even that would be an acceptable price for me because it would allow the Conference to GROW by having rivalries develop because we would now be playing each other home-and-away every year.

Just my opinion...but that's what I'd like to see happen.

Going to ten makes perfect sense from a scheduling standpoint until a really compelling candidate (like BYU, for example) signals that they'd like to join the AAC. Then we're back to eleven members anyway, might feel it's important to go to twelve again, and we're out whatever we paid Tulsa (or any other program that's currently looked down upon) to part company. Tulsa is a fine school academically. If they don't measure up athletically, then it might make more sense for the other conference members to give them a set number of years to improve and some kind of hand-up to help them achieve that goal. If they can't or won't improve, then at least they've been given a fair chance.

I don't like the idea of making any member school feel like an outcast. We've all been there at one time or another. I sure know what it felt like when UC was left behind in the last round of conference realignment.
 
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(06-24-2019 08:34 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 07:58 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 07:50 AM)ucdsk Wrote:  If the conference is going to add a football all sports institution than it needs to be forward looking. The heart of the conference, it seems to me is urban and southern in its background. So the candidates are: Charlotte, Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion and maybe USA(Southern Alabama). None are the top flight candidate that replaces a state flagship school like UConn, but potentially, in the future, 5 to 10 years one of those schools is a good fit for the AAC. This is dependent upon UC not moving up itself. 02-13-banana

I have not really followed UCONN relegating itself to the Big East very closely, and I would be fine with us not adding a team, but I think Ga. State is the best possible choice.

Gives us a footprint in a big recruiting state
Urban campus with a "new" stadium
Athletic Dept seems to have a bit of momentum

They would still have many of the disadvantages many AAC schools have with lack of fan support and being stuck behind a historical power, but there is enough talent in the south that they would be able to recruit a strong team.

When teams are elevated from the Sunbelt it is to CUSA. See UAB, WKU, etc.

GA State FB 1-7 IC and 2-10 overall, That new FB Stadium holds 24,333 and the BB holds 3,854.

GA State BB is so good we just sent them Noseme (spelling)

The replacement at best is BYU/Army or a MWC and at worst a CUSA or BU or Toledo from MAC.

I am sure a competent Conference CEO has all data analysis at his finger tips. Then again the AAC CEO is Aresco so he may have no clue.

a 24,000 seat stadium is perfect. College football attendances are trending downwards and the smaller stadiums are going to be the future for many schools and leagues across the country. Ga State is also committed to building a 8,500 seat basketball arena.

Their product may not be up to par yet, but their facilities will be very good, and they are Atlanta. It is short-sighted to discredit them due to on-field performance, as that has little to do with conference affiliation.

It may be too soon for them to move up to The American, but they will likely become one of the best G5 schools in the coming decades with the correct leadership.
 
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RE: The AAC Post UConn: What Is Your Preference?
(06-24-2019 10:26 AM)colohank Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 09:59 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I said this over on the "Main" conference board.

My "preference" (and that's all that it is) is that the AAC sever ties with Tulsa, go back down to 10 teams...play a full round-robin in football (that's the main issue here) and maybe even the "double round-robin" in basketball. That would allow true rivalries to develop and grow.

IMO, Tulsa doesn't "fit." They were added at a time when we thought (as a conference) we needed "Football Success" to bolster the new conference's image...Tulsa never lived up to that and we have "Football Success" with Houston, UCF, and UC. We also added Tulsa when we thought we needed 12 teams to get to a CCG...you can do that now with 10 and the round-robin in football. Tulsa has the smallest enrollment in the Conference, they have piss-poor attendance, and they are not "elite" in anything.

And, for the record, this is "how" you do this...you broker a contract with Tulsa to "go away." Yes, in the short-term it costs $$$, but in the long-term you recoup it. I don't know how much it would cost to make Tulsa go away; I'd start with the $10 Million UConn is going to pay in "exit fees" and start there. The Max would be whatever media money Tulsa has coming to them for the remainder of the Media deal...but even that would be an acceptable price for me because it would allow the Conference to GROW by having rivalries develop because we would now be playing each other home-and-away every year.

Just my opinion...but that's what I'd like to see happen.

Going to ten makes perfect sense from a scheduling standpoint until a really compelling candidate (like BYU, for example) signals that they'd like to join the AAC. Then we're back to eleven members anyway, might feel it's important to go to twelve again, and we're out whatever we paid Tulsa (or any other program that's currently looked down upon) to part company. Tulsa is a fine school academically. If they don't measure up athletically, then it might make more sense for the other conference members to give them a set number of years to improve and some kind of hand-up to help them achieve that goal. If they can't or won't improve, then at least they've been given a fair chance.

I don't like the idea of making any member school feel like an outcast. We've all been there at one time or another. I sure know what it felt like when UC was left behind in the last round of conference realignment.

Feelings? This is business.
 
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RE: The AAC Post UConn: What Is Your Preference?
(06-24-2019 08:49 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 08:34 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 07:58 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 07:50 AM)ucdsk Wrote:  If the conference is going to add a football all sports institution than it needs to be forward looking. The heart of the conference, it seems to me is urban and southern in its background. So the candidates are: Charlotte, Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion and maybe USA(Southern Alabama). None are the top flight candidate that replaces a state flagship school like UConn, but potentially, in the future, 5 to 10 years one of those schools is a good fit for the AAC. This is dependent upon UC not moving up itself. 02-13-banana

I have not really followed UCONN relegating itself to the Big East very closely, and I would be fine with us not adding a team, but I think Ga. State is the best possible choice.

Gives us a footprint in a big recruiting state
Urban campus with a "new" stadium
Athletic Dept seems to have a bit of momentum

They would still have many of the disadvantages many AAC schools have with lack of fan support and being stuck behind a historical power, but there is enough talent in the south that they would be able to recruit a strong team.

When teams are elevated from the Sunbelt it is to CUSA. See UAB, WKU, etc.

GA State FB 1-7 IC and 2-10 overall, That new FB Stadium holds 24,333 and the BB holds 3,854.

GA State BB is so good we just sent them Noseme (spelling)

The replacement at best is BYU/Army or a MWC and at worst a CUSA or BU or Toledo from MAC.

I am sure a competent Conference CEO has all data analysis at his finger tips. Then again the AAC CEO is Aresco so he may have no clue.

To be fair, that didn't stop Tulane 03-lmfao

At least Tulane is a name people know. A premier academic AAU school that once was in the SEC.
 
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