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(06-21-2019 12:15 PM)Romell Shorter Wrote:  I am not a Mick fanboy, but he was probably did the correct thing by not recruiting the two local kids. Both kids would have only been here a year. Personally, I think Bazley is a train wreck.

Yeah, it would be nice to have two players go in the first round, but Mick was taking the long term view with both.

Congrats to both players for being drafted high.

Look at the past national champions, look at the teams that have been racking up final four appearances...these teams are full of one and done players. Yeah sure, we'll have a Loyola-Chicago every now and then but, by and large, the teams that win are the teams that have these high talent one and done players on a year in and year out basis.

You can keep your "system" guys. If you want to win at a high level, you have to recruit at a high level. That's why Duke is Duke and we are Cincinnati.
 
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(06-21-2019 12:15 PM)Romell Shorter Wrote:  Congrats to both players for being drafted high.

I dunno, man. They both looked pretty sober to me.
 
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(06-21-2019 12:20 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Look at the past national champions, look at the teams that have been racking up final four appearances...these teams are full of one and done players. Yeah sure, we'll have a Loyola-Chicago every now and then but, by and large, the teams that win are the teams that have these high talent one and done players on a year in and year out basis.

Villanova, Virginia, Texas Tech, Auburn, Michigan, Michigan State. Even most of the P5s that have gone deep in recent years develop players over multiple years.

FWIW I'm not arguing we should have recruited Hayes, there was no way to know he was a future one and done, I just dispute that the top schools have one and done players annually.
 
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(06-21-2019 08:49 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 08:47 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  There is no excuse for not at least taking a look at local talent. No, Jaxson Hayes wasn't going to lead us to a national championship last year, but it's pretty egregious that a 4-star recruit in our backyard didn't even hear from us.

This reminds me of another coach at UC...

Rick Minter?
 
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Hayes was a very strange recruitment. When was the last time you saw uk offer a high school bench warmer? He blew up on the aau circuit.

i remember many on here being totally ok with mick not recruiting another "project" and i cant recall anybody here being upset about passing on jaxson.

Mick should have known better and recruited this kid, but lets not act like he was an obvious lottery pick at that time. Hindsight is 20/20.
 
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(06-21-2019 11:14 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 10:13 AM)Helicopter Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 07:48 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Are we going to beat out Texas for many recruits? Probably not.

See this right here is why a LOT of us wanted to move on from Mick. I don't care if we are in the Missouri Valley Conference playing in the Armory Field House. UC should ALWAYS out recruit Texas and at the very least the fanbase, coaches and boosters should have that attitude whether it's true or not.

Yeah, when has Texas ever been a hoops power?

Have you ever seen Texas' athletic facilities?

Ours are nice. Theirs are spectacular.

That's pretty attractive to young kids.
 
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(06-20-2019 09:03 PM)gerhard911 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 09:01 PM)jarr Wrote:  Pretty embarrassing Mick didn't even make a phone call or stop by the school. Not a highly ranked player, so no reason Mick could have used the "too good for us" excuse. I have no doubt JB would have been all over this recruitment had he been here.

Too much effort for Mick. Lazy ass recruiter while here. He better up his game at UCLA.

I thought it was documented he was a very hard worker??

He may not have been able to land the top end talent, but I don’t ever remember hearing he was lazy.

And once you ask a girl to the prom and she says she’s not interested, do you keep asking her??

Maybe Mick spoke to him and his parents, and was told they were not interested (ultimately Micks fault) or he wanted to go away to college. What’s he to do
 
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(06-22-2019 12:52 AM)ZCat Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 09:03 PM)gerhard911 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 09:01 PM)jarr Wrote:  Pretty embarrassing Mick didn't even make a phone call or stop by the school. Not a highly ranked player, so no reason Mick could have used the "too good for us" excuse. I have no doubt JB would have been all over this recruitment had he been here.

Too much effort for Mick. Lazy ass recruiter while here. He better up his game at UCLA.

I thought it was documented he was a very hard worker??

He may not have been able to land the top end talent, but I don’t ever remember hearing he was lazy.

And once you ask a girl to the prom and she says she’s not interested, do you keep asking her??

Maybe Mick spoke to him and his parents, and was told they were not interested (ultimately Micks fault) or he wanted to go away to college. What’s he to do
Jaxson Hayes said Cincinnati never contacted him. He could have been lying. If it's true, it's hard to claim that you couldn't open recruiting doors at Cincinnati if you never even bothered to knock. I think that's what is chapping everyone's ass right now especially with Mick's underhanded comments about how hard it was to recruit here since his hiring at UCLA. This could be purely anecdotal, but I am seeing a lot more Twitter activity highlighting Cincinnati offers and visits for 4 and 5 star prospects in Brannen's short tenure than what I remember from Cronin's last four or five years. Doesn't mean he's lazy, but it doesn't reflect well on his tenure that Brannen is already getting activity with high caliber recruits.
 
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(06-22-2019 08:44 AM)crex043 Wrote:  
(06-22-2019 12:52 AM)ZCat Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 09:03 PM)gerhard911 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 09:01 PM)jarr Wrote:  Pretty embarrassing Mick didn't even make a phone call or stop by the school. Not a highly ranked player, so no reason Mick could have used the "too good for us" excuse. I have no doubt JB would have been all over this recruitment had he been here.

Too much effort for Mick. Lazy ass recruiter while here. He better up his game at UCLA.

I thought it was documented he was a very hard worker??

He may not have been able to land the top end talent, but I don’t ever remember hearing he was lazy.

And once you ask a girl to the prom and she says she’s not interested, do you keep asking her??

Maybe Mick spoke to him and his parents, and was told they were not interested (ultimately Micks fault) or he wanted to go away to college. What’s he to do
Jaxson Hayes said Cincinnati never contacted him. He could have been lying. If it's true, it's hard to claim that you couldn't open recruiting doors at Cincinnati if you never even bothered to knock. I think that's what is chapping everyone's ass right now especially with Mick's underhanded comments about how hard it was to recruit here since his hiring at UCLA. This could be purely anecdotal, but I am seeing a lot more Twitter activity highlighting Cincinnati offers and visits for 4 and 5 star prospects in Brannen's short tenure than what I remember from Cronin's last four or five years. Doesn't mean he's lazy, but it doesn't reflect well on his tenure that Brannen is already getting activity with high caliber recruits.
Chad spoke on this in general. But not specifically that I remember about this kid. Maybe he can chime in.

It’s just funny that everything that happens people focus on a few sentences that some kid said or Mick said.

His results are there (1 S16, plenty Of regular season wins. knocking on the door but did not kick it down.).

When a recruit made it 100% clear they weren’t interested he stopped. In this case, if he never called, maybe he saw something in this kid that made him not want to recruit him. Or maybe it was stubbornness or confidence. The same stubbornness confidence that helped him in a positive way in other situations.

New coaches job will be easier because of him. in the long run maybe he’ll be much better. I sure hope so.
 
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(06-21-2019 09:01 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  Belmont, Murray St, Hofstra and Yale each had more players drafted last night than our entire league, AAC is pathetic.....04-cheers

Make that comparison in 5 or 10 years.
 
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(06-20-2019 09:01 PM)jarr Wrote:  Pretty embarrassing Mick didn't even make a phone call or stop by the school. Not a highly ranked player, so no reason Mick could have used the "too good for us" excuse. I have no doubt JB would have been all over this recruitment had he been here.

.....and also Bob Huggins if he were still coaching here.
 
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(06-21-2019 08:11 AM)jarr Wrote:  
(06-21-2019 07:55 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Every guy who turns into a player wasn't an egregious miss.

Yea, but Mick looks foolish when he doesn't even bother to check in on the kid when he is starting to blow up and right in his own backyard. By the time he commited he was not a complete unknown, he was getting looks for UK and other big names.

I was still shocked that Texas wanted him because his H.S. Stats were not major college stuff and then the NBA takes him as a lottery pick? just shocking.
 
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Hayes’ sister Jillian just committed to UC WBB. 6’1 SF who averaged 17 points and 8.5 boards as a junior.
 
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