(06-20-2019 07:40 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Not sure why in June people are obsessing over who starts. If Lance is good enough he earns minutes. If he’s really good he earns a lot of minutes. If he’s better than either or both our super stars well you get the idea.

Based on last year, it doesn’t matter to Penny who starts either.

(06-20-2019 07:40 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Not sure why in June people are obsessing over who starts. If Lance is good enough he earns minutes. If he’s really good he earns a lot of minutes. If he’s better than either or both our super stars well you get the idea.

Agree. But in 6 months these freshman will be much different as well. Watch out for the Tigers!!!!

(06-21-2019 08:57 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(06-20-2019 07:40 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Not sure why in June people are obsessing over who starts. If Lance is good enough he earns minutes. If he’s really good he earns a lot of minutes. If he’s better than either or both our super stars well you get the idea.

Agree.

Lots of folks here just enjoy arguing. The subject matter is irrelevant.

(06-21-2019 09:00 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-21-2019 08:57 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(06-20-2019 07:40 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Not sure why in June people are obsessing over who starts. If Lance is good enough he earns minutes. If he’s really good he earns a lot of minutes. If he’s better than either or both our super stars well you get the idea.

Agree.

Lots of folks here just enjoy arguing. The subject matter is irrelevant.

Yep. I don’t get it. It’s ok to have different opinions. And just because someone disagrees with you is no reason to get your panties in a wad.

This Dude may not start, but he's gonna get a lot of minutes a n.d with the team we have we'll have some Balling Dudes on the c,court at all times. Plus Dudes that can BUST THE TREY BALL

(06-20-2019 07:40 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Not sure why in June people are obsessing over who starts. If Lance is good enough he earns minutes. If he’s really good he earns a lot of minutes. If he’s better than either or both our super stars well you get the idea.

Starting seems to be some symbol of achievement in folks head. It gives them anfive that they can fantasize about. This crap literally meana nothing in college basketball.

(06-21-2019 10:11 AM)dwash Wrote:  

(06-20-2019 07:40 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Not sure why in June people are obsessing over who starts. If Lance is good enough he earns minutes. If he’s really good he earns a lot of minutes. If he’s better than either or both our super stars well you get the idea.

Starting seems to be some symbol of achievement in folks head. It gives them anfive that they can fantasize about. This crap literally meana nothing in college basketball.

It symbolizes being one of the best 5 players on the team and the best player at your position on the team. It means something to players, just like Jayden being a scholarship player instead of walk on means something to him... It is a status symbol. Ask any 5* player if they will consider a team they are not going to start on and most will immediately so "no way".

(06-20-2019 06:28 PM)steves Wrote:  I've seen very little of L.T. I know a lot of Louisville fans weren't too sad he left ... Said he shy'd away from inside contact. So he's got some on court splainin' to do ...

If he has been killing it in practice and workouts, he probably isn't shying away from inside contact. Not saying it's true or not true, and the real games will obviously tell the tale.

Also, many players make the biggest improvement between their first and second seasons. We have seen that often in the last 15 years.

John Grice
Chris Massie
Rodney Carney
Antonio Burks
CDR
Will Barton
Elliot Williams
Witherspoon
Jeremiah Martin

Everyone has players that look great in the summer, so there are no guarantees, but Thomas was highly ranked coming out of high school, had to mostly sit his freshman season and has had a full year to work out and improve his game.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he turns out to be really good.

If Sir Lance does start, it is at the beginning of the season, to have some experience on the floor. But, as the Freshmen improve as the season goes on, I am guessing he will be second string.

I am glad we do have someone with some experience. Looks like Thomas fills that spot.

I want to get in on the argument.... Alex Lomax will lead the team in assists this year. Fight me.

(06-21-2019 12:10 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  I want to get in on the argument.... Alex Lomax will lead the team in assists this year. Fight me.

Entirely possible but of course he will have to get minutes first. He was second last year in assists and tied with JM for assists per 40 minutes.

It is good that one of the current guys beat the crap out of the Freshmen...

Don't want them coming in with a false sense of security.

(06-21-2019 07:52 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  It is good that one of the current guys beat the crap out of the Freshmen...

Don't want them coming in with a false sense of security.

He is not going to start or play more minutes over Precious and unless Thomas is a helluva 3, he won’t start there either. Every year there is one guy everyone gets excited about whom we know very little about his current game.

Last year it was Wingett.

Since I can’t figure out how to post a pic, check this out of the Tigers at 6am today. Look to be rounding into shape

https://twitter.com/bigticket_jw/status/...12800?s=21

Lance dominated practice last year and could guard anyone he was put in front of.

People that think he is a 4 and is in competition against other 4s for minutes do not understand Penny's coaching style and what he plans to do with this team. No player has a position role and everyone will likely be able to switch and guard someone else. Now before anyone jumps on the a PG isn't guarding a C argument, I agree. They will not be matched up, but we will be a lights out pressing team that traps like hell and guards the whole court. I can see 4 smaller players or 4 bigger players playing at any time. Lance will get plenty of minutes because he can play multiple positions, like most everyone on our team can.

PA will play as much at 3 as 4 (to use designations). I can easily see JW, PA and LT playing minutes at the same time.

(06-21-2019 10:19 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Lance dominated practice last year and could guard anyone he was put in front of.

People that think he is a 4 and is in competition against other 4s for minutes do not understand Penny's coaching style and what he plans to do with this team. No player has a position role and everyone will likely be able to switch and guard someone else. Now before anyone jumps on the a PG isn't guarding a C argument, I agree. They will not be matched up, but we will be a lights out pressing team that traps like hell and guards the whole court. I can see 4 smaller players or 4 bigger players playing at any time. Lance will get plenty of minutes because he can play multiple positions, like most everyone on our team can.

PA will play as much at 3 as 4 (to use designations). I can easily see JW, PA and LT playing minutes at the same time.

I doubt Lance is dominating practice this year. Coaches may say things like that many times to get a players confidence up, he is homesick, etc.

Penny pitched position less basketball as you call it to recruits but it won’t work the way you think. When we play talented teams and we have 4 bigs on the floor you would see many TOs. The 4 kings thing might work a little better with James in the middle but when it’s all said and done a National championship contender needs;

A facilitator and someone to start half court offense
3 pt shooters preferably from 1-4 positions but 5 doesn’t hurt either
A big who is a rim protector and shot changer in the middle on D
A lockdown defender who is normally a wing player
Rebounders, guys who like to mix it up, enforcers, stat stuffers off the bench

I think that’s a rough take on a good lineup and college basketball is not position less and probably won’t be for a while. Teams struggle when their PGs go down. Fact of life. Why should we waste James bringing the ball down after a rebound when he runs the floor so well and we have a roster full of guys who do it better? Penny tried that last year and Parks had a lot of TOs trying to do it. James would do much better but a coaches job is to put players in position so the TEAM IS SUCCESSFUL. Just my take on all talk that positions don’t matter on this team.

(06-21-2019 11:32 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(06-21-2019 10:19 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Lance dominated practice last year and could guard anyone he was put in front of.

People that think he is a 4 and is in competition against other 4s for minutes do not understand Penny's coaching style and what he plans to do with this team. No player has a position role and everyone will likely be able to switch and guard someone else. Now before anyone jumps on the a PG isn't guarding a C argument, I agree. They will not be matched up, but we will be a lights out pressing team that traps like hell and guards the whole court. I can see 4 smaller players or 4 bigger players playing at any time. Lance will get plenty of minutes because he can play multiple positions, like most everyone on our team can.

PA will play as much at 3 as 4 (to use designations). I can easily see JW, PA and LT playing minutes at the same time.

I doubt Lance is dominating practice this year. Coaches may say things like that many times to get a players confidence up, he is homesick, etc.

Penny pitched position less basketball as you call it to recruits but it won’t work the way you think. When we play talented teams and we have 4 bigs on the floor you would see many TOs. The 4 kings thing might work a little better with James in the middle but when it’s all said and done a National championship contender needs;

A facilitator and someone to start half court offense
3 pt shooters preferably from 1-4 positions but 5 doesn’t hurt either
A big who is a rim protector and shot changer in the middle on D
A lockdown defender who is normally a wing player
Rebounders, guys who like to mix it up, enforcers, stat stuffers off the bench

I think that’s a rough take on a good lineup and college basketball is not position less and probably won’t be for a while. Teams struggle when their PGs go down. Fact of life. Why should we waste James bringing the ball down after a rebound when he runs the floor so well and we have a roster full of guys who do it better? Penny tried that last year and Parks had a lot of TOs trying to do it. James would do much better but a coaches job is to put players in position so the TEAM IS SUCCESSFUL. Just my take on all talk that positions don’t matter on this team.

Only thing I would add is that we need two players who can create their own shot on the floor at all times.

(06-21-2019 11:57 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  

(06-21-2019 11:32 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(06-21-2019 10:19 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Lance dominated practice last year and could guard anyone he was put in front of.

People that think he is a 4 and is in competition against other 4s for minutes do not understand Penny's coaching style and what he plans to do with this team. No player has a position role and everyone will likely be able to switch and guard someone else. Now before anyone jumps on the a PG isn't guarding a C argument, I agree. They will not be matched up, but we will be a lights out pressing team that traps like hell and guards the whole court. I can see 4 smaller players or 4 bigger players playing at any time. Lance will get plenty of minutes because he can play multiple positions, like most everyone on our team can.

PA will play as much at 3 as 4 (to use designations). I can easily see JW, PA and LT playing minutes at the same time.

I doubt Lance is dominating practice this year. Coaches may say things like that many times to get a players confidence up, he is homesick, etc.

Penny pitched position less basketball as you call it to recruits but it won’t work the way you think. When we play talented teams and we have 4 bigs on the floor you would see many TOs. The 4 kings thing might work a little better with James in the middle but when it’s all said and done a National championship contender needs;

A facilitator and someone to start half court offense
3 pt shooters preferably from 1-4 positions but 5 doesn’t hurt either
A big who is a rim protector and shot changer in the middle on D
A lockdown defender who is normally a wing player
Rebounders, guys who like to mix it up, enforcers, stat stuffers off the bench

I think that’s a rough take on a good lineup and college basketball is not position less and probably won’t be for a while. Teams struggle when their PGs go down. Fact of life. Why should we waste James bringing the ball down after a rebound when he runs the floor so well and we have a roster full of guys who do it better? Penny tried that last year and Parks had a lot of TOs trying to do it. James would do much better but a coaches job is to put players in position so the TEAM IS SUCCESSFUL. Just my take on all talk that positions don’t matter on this team.

Only thing I would add is that we need two players who can create their own shot on the floor at all times.

Good point

Can this Dude bust a 10 ft. J

(06-22-2019 12:36 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Can this Dude bust a 10 ft. J

I think he could slam it from 10.

UNBELIEVABLE, what about a 15 ft J