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COMMITTEE NEWS: @RiceAthletics athletic director Joe Karlgaard will serve as the Division I Baseball Selection Committee chairman in 2020.

Joe will do a great job as the chairman. Has experience out West and obviously knows the South/Texas very well.

Convenient for bribery purposes

Just networking for his next job...

(06-20-2019 10:48 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Just networking for his next job...

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the sooner this development materializes the better.

If some bubble team is looking for a new AD, and somehow mysteriously gets in, that will certainly cause a few questions.

I generally like Joe, and wish him well, but a large part of me wonders if it isn't time that it would be best for all for him to move on to that next job. Based upon some of the dynamics of the decision to keep Bailiff another year, which I am not free to share, I can justify that decision. Not the decision I would have taken, he'd have been gone long ago if it were up to me, but in the position where Joe found himself on that one, I can understand it.

I can't get my head around the treatment of Wayne Graham. The only thing that I can imagine is that Joe was not here in 2004, and no matter what he was told about it, he simply did not appreciate the fact that winning a baseball national championship is essentially the only thing that kept D1 athletics alive at Rice. In my opinion, that entitled Wayne to special treatment not given to any other coach or employee. I think he earned the right to leave on his own terms and to name his successor. Even if that successor were a failure, I would still hold that belief. I never gave any employee of mine that kind of treatment, and I can't think of any situation that actually happened to me where I would have considered it. But that is a measure of just how exceptional I think Wayne's contributions were.

The bottom line is that the Rice athletic program does not generate sufficient revenues to operate a D1 athletic program, even with a hefty contribution by the BOT. That places any AD in a terrible situation, and requires exceptional talent to deal with it. I hoped and thought that Joe would bring the skills needed, but he hasn't exhibited them. He appears to have been a competent manager, but what Rice athletics needs is a visionary leader. And that he simply isn't.

(06-20-2019 10:59 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If some bubble team is looking for a new AD, and somehow mysteriously gets in, that will certainly cause a few questions.

I generally like Joe, and wish him well, but a large part of me wonders if it isn't time that it would be best for all for him to move on to that next job. Based upon some of the dynamics of the decision to keep Bailiff another year, which I am not free to share, I can justify that decision. Not the decision I would have taken, he'd have been gone long ago if it were up to me, but in the position where Joe found himself on that one, I can understand it.

I can't get my head around the treatment of Wayne Graham. The only thing that I can imagine is that Joe was not here in 2004, and no matter what he was told about it, he simply did not appreciate the fact that winning a baseball national championship is essentially the only thing that kept D1 athletics alive at Rice. In my opinion, that entitled Wayne to special treatment not given to any other coach or employee. I think he earned the right to leave on his own terms and to name his successor. Even if that successor were a failure, I would still hold that belief. I never gave any employee of mine that kind of treatment, and I can't think of any situation that actually happened to me where I would have considered it. But that is a measure of just how exceptional I think Wayne's contributions were.

The bottom line is that the Rice athletic program does not generate sufficient revenues to operate a D1 athletic program, even with a hefty contribution by the BOT. That places any AD in a terrible situation, and requires exceptional talent to deal with it. I hoped and thought that Joe would bring the skills needed, but he hasn't exhibited them. He appears to have been a competent manager, but what Rice athletics needs is a visionary leader. And that he simply isn't.

Is there an AD or a person out there that has the qualities you are looking for?

(06-20-2019 01:07 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(06-20-2019 10:59 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If some bubble team is looking for a new AD, and somehow mysteriously gets in, that will certainly cause a few questions.
I generally like Joe, and wish him well, but a large part of me wonders if it isn't time that it would be best for all for him to move on to that next job. Based upon some of the dynamics of the decision to keep Bailiff another year, which I am not free to share, I can justify that decision. Not the decision I would have taken, he'd have been gone long ago if it were up to me, but in the position where Joe found himself on that one, I can understand it.
I can't get my head around the treatment of Wayne Graham. The only thing that I can imagine is that Joe was not here in 2004, and no matter what he was told about it, he simply did not appreciate the fact that winning a baseball national championship is essentially the only thing that kept D1 athletics alive at Rice. In my opinion, that entitled Wayne to special treatment not given to any other coach or employee. I think he earned the right to leave on his own terms and to name his successor. Even if that successor were a failure, I would still hold that belief. I never gave any employee of mine that kind of treatment, and I can't think of any situation that actually happened to me where I would have considered it. But that is a measure of just how exceptional I think Wayne's contributions were.
The bottom line is that the Rice athletic program does not generate sufficient revenues to operate a D1 athletic program, even with a hefty contribution by the BOT. That places any AD in a terrible situation, and requires exceptional talent to deal with it. I hoped and thought that Joe would bring the skills needed, but he hasn't exhibited them. He appears to have been a competent manager, but what Rice athletics needs is a visionary leader. And that he simply isn't.

Is there an AD or a person out there that has the qualities you are looking for?

I don't have a specific name but I have some possibilities. Bobby Williams and David Sayler come to mind, but I think Bobby is too happy at Sam to be interested, and I don't know how Sayler would view Rice after his prior experience here. I'd probably also take a look at Rick Mello.

Beyond that, I'd have to do some research. I'd look for someone who has greatly enhanced a program somewhere.

If I were interviewing, I would ask each candidate to prepare a 5-year, 10-year, and long-term vision and a plan for how to get there. I would be particularly interested in plans for revenue enhancement.

A penny for your thoughts?