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(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 06:16 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You are basing that statement on ALo's last season. Don't look at that at all. Look at how he played his Sr season at East. He is the kind of PG that Penny wants to play.

I can promise, that while he might not start (which is totally a praise for those ahead of him and nothing against him), you will be surprised at how much better he looks this season than last year.
Last year's team was not the type team/offense that he is geared to play. This year's team is. I think people will be shocked at how much better he looks this year.

With that said, there is some amazing talent ahead of him. Don't get me wrong, it will be a fight for any minutes. And that applies to every player on the team. If you have a bad night, there are people waiting to take those minutes.

Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 06:16 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You are basing that statement on ALo's last season. Don't look at that at all. Look at how he played his Sr season at East. He is the kind of PG that Penny wants to play.

I can promise, that while he might not start (which is totally a praise for those ahead of him and nothing against him), you will be surprised at how much better he looks this season than last year.
Last year's team was not the type team/offense that he is geared to play. This year's team is. I think people will be shocked at how much better he looks this year.

With that said, there is some amazing talent ahead of him. Don't get me wrong, it will be a fight for any minutes. And that applies to every player on the team. If you have a bad night, there are people waiting to take those minutes.

Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 06:16 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You are basing that statement on ALo's last season. Don't look at that at all. Look at how he played his Sr season at East. He is the kind of PG that Penny wants to play.

I can promise, that while he might not start (which is totally a praise for those ahead of him and nothing against him), you will be surprised at how much better he looks this season than last year.
Last year's team was not the type team/offense that he is geared to play. This year's team is. I think people will be shocked at how much better he looks this year.

With that said, there is some amazing talent ahead of him. Don't get me wrong, it will be a fight for any minutes. And that applies to every player on the team. If you have a bad night, there are people waiting to take those minutes.

Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

I highly doubt you'll see anyone who played major minutes last year red shirt . . .

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 06:16 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You are basing that statement on ALo's last season. Don't look at that at all. Look at how he played his Sr season at East. He is the kind of PG that Penny wants to play.

I can promise, that while he might not start (which is totally a praise for those ahead of him and nothing against him), you will be surprised at how much better he looks this season than last year.
Last year's team was not the type team/offense that he is geared to play. This year's team is. I think people will be shocked at how much better he looks this year.

With that said, there is some amazing talent ahead of him. Don't get me wrong, it will be a fight for any minutes. And that applies to every player on the team. If you have a bad night, there are people waiting to take those minutes.

Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

(06-19-2019 09:33 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  I highly doubt you'll see anyone who played major minutes last year red shirt . . .

In many instances they both played to the weak side of the players they guarded. One would have to assume this is coached; I’m not a fan of that style of Man D in college basketball.

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 06:16 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You are basing that statement on ALo's last season. Don't look at that at all. Look at how he played his Sr season at East. He is the kind of PG that Penny wants to play.

I can promise, that while he might not start (which is totally a praise for those ahead of him and nothing against him), you will be surprised at how much better he looks this season than last year.
Last year's team was not the type team/offense that he is geared to play. This year's team is. I think people will be shocked at how much better he looks this year.

With that said, there is some amazing talent ahead of him. Don't get me wrong, it will be a fight for any minutes. And that applies to every player on the team. If you have a bad night, there are people waiting to take those minutes.

Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

Well, I wont continue to argue about it. I specifically watched ALo every single time on defense, whether he was on the ball or not. Every single play on defense, I watched ALo when he was in. I am pretty sure you cannot say the same. He could not stop his man at the end, same as at the beginning.

(06-19-2019 02:08 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

Well, I wont continue to argue about it. I specifically watched ALo every single time on defense, whether he was on the ball or not. Every single play on defense, I watched ALo when he was in. I am pretty sure you cannot say the same. He could not stop his man at the end, same as at the beginning.

Surely you cant be serious.

(06-19-2019 02:26 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 02:08 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

Well, I wont continue to argue about it. I specifically watched ALo every single time on defense, whether he was on the ball or not. Every single play on defense, I watched ALo when he was in. I am pretty sure you cannot say the same. He could not stop his man at the end, same as at the beginning.

Surely you cant be serious.

Actually I am, make of it whatever you want. But yes, when ALo would come into the game I would follow him exclusively to see how much, if any, he was improving. He has great fundamentals and footwork, but so do a lot of very unathletic guys who are terrible at defense. He is too slow, so his man will beat him, and then he chases after slapping at the ball. If he runs into a tight official he is going to get called for fouls over and over. Even without being called for fouls, the defense breaks down after his man gets past. Tyler isnt good either. In Tyler's case he has 2 advantages though. First, Tyler is very quick and can make up for it. Second, Tyler can actually make shots when he is hot.

(06-19-2019 02:08 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

Well, I wont continue to argue about it. I specifically watched ALo every single time on defense, whether he was on the ball or not. Every single play on defense, I watched ALo when he was in. I am pretty sure you cannot say the same. He could not stop his man at the end, same as at the beginning.

I find your claim of watching him every single play on defense as valid as you saying "I wont continue to argue about it" and then literally continuing to argue about it in the very next sentence...

At the end of the day he does not need to be an elite defender and I am not trying to claim he his. He is undersized but he plays good enough defense to be effective, especially considering he will have true rim protectors to help him when he does get beat. I am just contesting the idea that he is such a horrific defender that he should not be playing, I simply do not see that as true at all. But as you eluded to we simply disagree on this and could go around and around all day so I will jump off the merry-go-round here.

Hilarious

(06-19-2019 03:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 02:08 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

Well, I wont continue to argue about it. I specifically watched ALo every single time on defense, whether he was on the ball or not. Every single play on defense, I watched ALo when he was in. I am pretty sure you cannot say the same. He could not stop his man at the end, same as at the beginning.

I find your claim of watching him every single play on defense as valid as you saying "I wont continue to argue about it" and then literally continuing to argue about it in the very next sentence...

At the end of the day he does not need to be an elite defender and I am not trying to claim he his. He is undersized but he plays good enough defense to be effective, especially considering he will have true rim protectors to help him when he does get beat. I am just contesting the idea that he is such a horrific defender that he should not be playing, I simply do not see that as true at all. But as you eluded to we simply disagree on this and could go around and around all day so I will jump off the merry-go-round here.

Uh, no. I replied to a statement that was not an argument. I see you don't know the difference in an argument and a discussion. Good bye.

And you even have the argument wrong. At no point, ever, did I say Alo should not be playing. This started in response to someone saying ALo would be STARTING by the end of the season... Thanks.

(06-19-2019 03:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 02:08 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

Well, I wont continue to argue about it. I specifically watched ALo every single time on defense, whether he was on the ball or not. Every single play on defense, I watched ALo when he was in. I am pretty sure you cannot say the same. He could not stop his man at the end, same as at the beginning.

I find your claim of watching him every single play on defense as valid as you saying "I wont continue to argue about it" and then literally continuing to argue about it in the very next sentence...

At the end of the day he does not need to be an elite defender and I am not trying to claim he his. He is undersized but he plays good enough defense to be effective, especially considering he will have true rim protectors to help him when he does get beat. I am just contesting the idea that he is such a horrific defender that he should not be playing, I simply do not see that as true at all. But as you eluded to we simply disagree on this and could go around and around all day so I will jump off the merry-go-round here.

At 5'9" you need to be an elite defender if you want minutes, especially when your shooting game is weak.

But back to who redshirts, no one. At the same time I don't think anyone gets more than 25 mins. routinely - excepting close games in conference play. So that should provide some more minutes to spread among the 12 - all who can play.

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 06:16 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You are basing that statement on ALo's last season. Don't look at that at all. Look at how he played his Sr season at East. He is the kind of PG that Penny wants to play.

I can promise, that while he might not start (which is totally a praise for those ahead of him and nothing against him), you will be surprised at how much better he looks this season than last year.
Last year's team was not the type team/offense that he is geared to play. This year's team is. I think people will be shocked at how much better he looks this year.

With that said, there is some amazing talent ahead of him. Don't get me wrong, it will be a fight for any minutes. And that applies to every player on the team. If you have a bad night, there are people waiting to take those minutes.

Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

What games were you watching?
Both their minutes dropped and dropped for big reasons...

(06-19-2019 03:54 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 09:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 07:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Defense is defense. If he cannot keep the dribbler in front of him, the rest doesnt matter. Surely the guards we have available this season will be much better at defense. If not, we have real issues.

His defense (like the entire team) was much better at the end of the season. Toward the end of the season almost every game the commentators mentioned how well he played defensively. You are stuck on the first half of last season when the entire team was trying to figure out a completely different and new defensive system and mindset. Once they started figuring out in the last half of the season we became a much better basketball team. He will be fine defensively, especially with rim protectors like Wiseman and Precious lurking around the paint...

Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

What games were you watching?
Both their minutes dropped and dropped for big reasons...

They both saw a gradual minute reduction until about the mid-way or 3/4 part of the year and then they began slightly rising again. Their minutes played at the beginning of the year was elite level player minutes (27+ mpg) and neither one of them had any business playing that amount of minutes as true freshman even if they were elite defenders. Their minute reduction was as much about their short comings (pun intended) as much as it was about a first year college coach's mistake of under estimating their learning curve.

Clearly, early on some of you pegged them both as awful defenders or too small to effectively defend and that is the prism you see them through. That is fine but it is not reality. By the end of the season both were significantly improved defenders to the point where I feel completely confident that they will be plenty serviceable defensive players. They will likely never be elite on ball defenders but they will be certainly be good enough to warrant minutes.

(06-19-2019 03:42 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 03:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 02:08 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 10:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Nope. At the end of the season he was continually getting blown right past. ALo is really good at hustle plays, but on the ball defense is dreadful.

Even at the beginning of the season all the talking heads raved about how great ALo's on the ball defense was, and it was awful then and awful later. He is too small and too slow. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

Well, I wont continue to argue about it. I specifically watched ALo every single time on defense, whether he was on the ball or not. Every single play on defense, I watched ALo when he was in. I am pretty sure you cannot say the same. He could not stop his man at the end, same as at the beginning.

I find your claim of watching him every single play on defense as valid as you saying "I wont continue to argue about it" and then literally continuing to argue about it in the very next sentence...

At the end of the day he does not need to be an elite defender and I am not trying to claim he his. He is undersized but he plays good enough defense to be effective, especially considering he will have true rim protectors to help him when he does get beat. I am just contesting the idea that he is such a horrific defender that he should not be playing, I simply do not see that as true at all. But as you eluded to we simply disagree on this and could go around and around all day so I will jump off the merry-go-round here.

At 5'9" you need to be an elite defender if you want minutes, especially when your shooting game is weak.

But back to who redshirts, no one. At the same time I don't think anyone gets more than 25 mins. routinely - excepting close games in conference play. So that should provide some more minutes to spread among the 12 - all who can play.

At the end of Harris' career he is likely one of the all time (if not the all time) leading three point shooters in Tiger history. Alo does so many things outside of shooting that make him a good player and great teammate that I simply find that view point short sighted.

(06-19-2019 04:08 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 03:42 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 03:31 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 02:08 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(06-19-2019 07:49 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  I am not sure what you were watching then. He and Harris' defense both improved immensely by the end of the season. Of course, they still got beat from time to time but it was not anything like it was at the beginning of the season when they could not stay in front of anyone. Alo also started to figure out when to take risks and go for a steal and when to just play straight up defense which again substantially improved his ability to stay in front of his guy.

Well, I wont continue to argue about it. I specifically watched ALo every single time on defense, whether he was on the ball or not. Every single play on defense, I watched ALo when he was in. I am pretty sure you cannot say the same. He could not stop his man at the end, same as at the beginning.

I find your claim of watching him every single play on defense as valid as you saying "I wont continue to argue about it" and then literally continuing to argue about it in the very next sentence...

At the end of the day he does not need to be an elite defender and I am not trying to claim he his. He is undersized but he plays good enough defense to be effective, especially considering he will have true rim protectors to help him when he does get beat. I am just contesting the idea that he is such a horrific defender that he should not be playing, I simply do not see that as true at all. But as you eluded to we simply disagree on this and could go around and around all day so I will jump off the merry-go-round here.

At 5'9" you need to be an elite defender if you want minutes, especially when your shooting game is weak.

But back to who redshirts, no one. At the same time I don't think anyone gets more than 25 mins. routinely - excepting close games in conference play. So that should provide some more minutes to spread among the 12 - all who can play.

At the end of Harris' career he is likely one of the all time (if not the all time) leading three point shooters in Tiger history. Alo does so many things outside of shooting that make him a good player and great teammate that I simply find that view point short sighted.

The way a season or even a game goes is all about ebb and flow. Everyone on the team will be needed at one point of another. Antonio Anderson hit 7 threes one game as Rodney Carney. North Texas was kicking our butt in the first round in 06 and Andre Allen came off the bench to hit 3 threes (Remember after that weekend, the media was asking Cal if Darius was the best option at point) Same with the NBA...Rodney Hood was the star of the 2nd round for Portland but didn't play in the 1st round. It's all about match ups. If the Tigers are going to win, Alo and Tyler will make major contribution when our freshmen have freshmen moments.

U Dudes left off
25 min. BLACKSHEAR

(06-18-2019 03:42 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 03:33 PM)cmt Wrote:  

(06-18-2019 03:26 PM)mairving Wrote:  Just a rough estimate of minutes for next year:
Wiseman - 30
Boogie - 25
Precious - 23
Jeffries - 20
Quinones - 20
Harris - 20
ALo - 15
Thomas - 15
Baugh - 10
Dandridge - 7
Boyce - 5
Maurice - 5
Hardaway - 5

There is just so much depth. Practices will be more competitive than most of our games. Always the hardest part of coaching is allocating minutes to players. This year we could go small and quick; ALo, Boogie, Harris, Jeffries, Precious at times. We could go giant, Boogie, Quinones, Jeffries, Precious, Wiseman or really any combination in between.

Too many for Wiseman, spread them out between Dandridge, Jefferies and Thomas

Yeah, I initially had him at around 25. He will certainly have foul trouble. The thing is though he is the No. 1 player in the country. The last 5 No. 1 players; Barrett (35), Bagley (34), Josh Jackson (31), Ben Simmons (35) and Okafor (30) have all played over 30 minutes per game.

(06-19-2019 05:40 PM)memphisike Wrote:  U Dudes left off
25 min. BLACKSHEAR

Blackshear ain’t coming here.