(06-06-2019 10:43 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:26 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  Not saying, just sayin'...

Quote:The Pac-12 has "multiple bids of at least $750 million in hand from companies looking to become equity investors in the conference," reports @SmittySBJ
in tonight's SBJ College newsletter. Final decision to come "in months."

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/st...0193772544

If it transpires it would be a game changer for them. 750 million divided 13 ways to account for a conference share is 57.7 million per school, roughly in line with SEC revenue projected from a T1 renewal. Since the Big 10 is at 54 pending their next contract renewal we could be looking at our new ceiling leaving the the Big 12 roughly 20 million behind and the ACC around 25 million behind factoring in the ACCN.

That would create a strange new paradigm in which the SEC, Big 10 and PAC would be positioned to grow out of the other two.

But it's always good PR to say you have multiple offers in hand, even if you don't. Whose going to know as long as you have 1.

Your concept is good JR, but your numbers are off. Three doesn't make any more sense than 5. It just doesn't work.
Even the AL and NL with three divisions each are a part of the bigger MLB (6 total).
Unless the American can be elevated to the 6th division (very doubtful), then if there is consolidation we would be looking at either 2 or 4 conferences.
Symmetry is a must for playoff oriented scheduling.

(12-30-2018 04:56 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  In a matter of 8 years, Larry Scott went from hero to villain.

I remember how he was called a visionary, a man that would take the Conference of Champions to another level something that his predecessor, Tom Hansen failed to do. He almost got the biggest prize of them all, Texas. He negotiated an unprecedented $1 billion + tv deal and launched a conference network. Oregon was a powerhouse and played for the 2011 BCS championship. Things were going fine. The future looked bright. But the honeymoon only lasted a couple of years.

Since then, the Pac-12 has been in decline. The schedule alliance with the Big Ten fell off. USC fell off the rails. There’s a lack of a football power that dominates the conference like Clemson in the weak ACC and gets an automatic spot in the CFP. It still needs to win a playoff game. Its bowl record has been abysmal. Basketball is a disaster. UCLA and Arizona are down. The Pac-12 Network has failed to live to the expectations. Is it Scott’s entire fault? Not necessarily. The Presidents and Chancellors are keeping him as the face of the conference. But when Utah fans boo the commissioner who gave them the golden ticket to the P5, as it happened on the Pac-12 CCG, things are going bad. The Pac-12 needs change ASAP and it starts at the top.

It's pretty sad when your ADs are a lot more forward thinking than your presidents and chancellors are. A lot of the PAC 12 institutions need to really re-examine their schools' leadership, IMO.

(06-07-2019 05:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:43 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:26 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  Not saying, just sayin'...

Quote:The Pac-12 has "multiple bids of at least $750 million in hand from companies looking to become equity investors in the conference," reports @SmittySBJ
in tonight's SBJ College newsletter. Final decision to come "in months."

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/st...0193772544

If it transpires it would be a game changer for them. 750 million divided 13 ways to account for a conference share is 57.7 million per school, roughly in line with SEC revenue projected from a T1 renewal. Since the Big 10 is at 54 pending their next contract renewal we could be looking at our new ceiling leaving the the Big 12 roughly 20 million behind and the ACC around 25 million behind factoring in the ACCN.

That would create a strange new paradigm in which the SEC, Big 10 and PAC would be positioned to grow out of the other two.

But it's always good PR to say you have multiple offers in hand, even if you don't. Whose going to know as long as you have 1.

Your concept is good JR, but your numbers are off. Three doesn't make any more sense than 5. It just doesn't work.
Even the AL and NL with three divisions each are a part of the bigger MLB (6 total).
Unless the American can be elevated to the 6th division (very doubtful), then if there is consolidation we would be looking at either 2 or 4 conferences.
Symmetry is a must for playoff oriented scheduling.

Networks love having at least 1 wildcard. It helps them out when the champions are located to close too one another.

(12-30-2018 01:51 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 01:43 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 12:17 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-29-2018 02:45 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Wow. Is the Pac-12 Larry Scott getting desperate?

FIFY.

Presidents and chancellors are tired of Scott's repeated failures. He wants to avoid getting canned. He's trying to conjure up money out of nowhere to make up for the money he should have delivered already.

Not sure the league is worth much more than what they are getting now. Their current TV contract is overvalued now but do believe the PAC Network could have been handled better to produce more revenue than it has so far.

Best asset the league has remains the Rose Bowl and that value seems to belong more to Big Ten participation than the PAC. But do agree that Scott should be fired for spending way more than he should and for his total lack of understanding of college athletics in general.

By the way, how close was the league to getting the Sooners and the Cowboys back in 2011? If that was a real attempt and not a sham by the Oklahoma schools, whoever at the PAC decided to squash that should have their heads on a spike. Passing up a legitimate content driver in a conference with only half a one (the Trojans) simply isn't smart business.

Sorry if this post comes off way too snarky, but as a fan of a conference that is currently in last place in terms of conference distribution monies I have no sympathy for fans from a certain two conferences complaining about money despite said conferences having overvalued TV contracts and getting more in CFP/NY6 money than the ACC.

Cheers,
Neil

Just to clear the air for those who aren't as clued in, you would be referencing the PAC and the Big 12 as being overpaid. One of those over payments is deliberate and by your benefactor as much as by FOX. And they both had a hand in overpaying the other because they bought into the PAC overseas stuff that Scott was pushing back when.

The SEC has an undervalued T1 which we will hopefully remedy right soon, and the Big 10 may or may not be overpaid. I'd say in a content driven model they might be overpaid a little bit.

Everybody was fairly paid at the time of their contract. SEC has an older T1.

Nobody is overpaid. They all got market rates. ESPN, Fox and CBS are all making money on their deals.

Big 10 is making the most and their ratings are only marginally better than the Big 12, ACC and not that much better than the Pac 12. So the Big 12 and Pac 12 are most certainly not overpaid.

(06-07-2019 10:22 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 05:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:43 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:26 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  Not saying, just sayin'...

Quote:The Pac-12 has "multiple bids of at least $750 million in hand from companies looking to become equity investors in the conference," reports @SmittySBJ
in tonight's SBJ College newsletter. Final decision to come "in months."

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/st...0193772544

If it transpires it would be a game changer for them. 750 million divided 13 ways to account for a conference share is 57.7 million per school, roughly in line with SEC revenue projected from a T1 renewal. Since the Big 10 is at 54 pending their next contract renewal we could be looking at our new ceiling leaving the the Big 12 roughly 20 million behind and the ACC around 25 million behind factoring in the ACCN.

That would create a strange new paradigm in which the SEC, Big 10 and PAC would be positioned to grow out of the other two.

But it's always good PR to say you have multiple offers in hand, even if you don't. Whose going to know as long as you have 1.

Your concept is good JR, but your numbers are off. Three doesn't make any more sense than 5. It just doesn't work.
Even the AL and NL with three divisions each are a part of the bigger MLB (6 total).
Unless the American can be elevated to the 6th division (very doubtful), then if there is consolidation we would be looking at either 2 or 4 conferences.
Symmetry is a must for playoff oriented scheduling.

Networks love having at least 1 wildcard. It helps them out when the champions are located to close too one another.

Wildcards come from within JR, and do not supplant a division/conference champion,

(06-07-2019 11:34 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 10:22 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 05:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:43 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:26 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  Not saying, just sayin'...



https://mobile.twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/st...0193772544

If it transpires it would be a game changer for them. 750 million divided 13 ways to account for a conference share is 57.7 million per school, roughly in line with SEC revenue projected from a T1 renewal. Since the Big 10 is at 54 pending their next contract renewal we could be looking at our new ceiling leaving the the Big 12 roughly 20 million behind and the ACC around 25 million behind factoring in the ACCN.

That would create a strange new paradigm in which the SEC, Big 10 and PAC would be positioned to grow out of the other two.

But it's always good PR to say you have multiple offers in hand, even if you don't. Whose going to know as long as you have 1.

Your concept is good JR, but your numbers are off. Three doesn't make any more sense than 5. It just doesn't work.
Even the AL and NL with three divisions each are a part of the bigger MLB (6 total).
Unless the American can be elevated to the 6th division (very doubtful), then if there is consolidation we would be looking at either 2 or 4 conferences.
Symmetry is a must for playoff oriented scheduling.

Networks love having at least 1 wildcard. It helps them out when the champions are located to close too one another.

Wildcards come from within JR, and do not supplant a division/conference champion,

3 champs and an at large.

(06-07-2019 01:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 11:34 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 10:22 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 05:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:43 PM)JRsec Wrote:  If it transpires it would be a game changer for them. 750 million divided 13 ways to account for a conference share is 57.7 million per school, roughly in line with SEC revenue projected from a T1 renewal. Since the Big 10 is at 54 pending their next contract renewal we could be looking at our new ceiling leaving the the Big 12 roughly 20 million behind and the ACC around 25 million behind factoring in the ACCN.

That would create a strange new paradigm in which the SEC, Big 10 and PAC would be positioned to grow out of the other two.

But it's always good PR to say you have multiple offers in hand, even if you don't. Whose going to know as long as you have 1.

Your concept is good JR, but your numbers are off. Three doesn't make any more sense than 5. It just doesn't work.
Even the AL and NL with three divisions each are a part of the bigger MLB (6 total).
Unless the American can be elevated to the 6th division (very doubtful), then if there is consolidation we would be looking at either 2 or 4 conferences.
Symmetry is a must for playoff oriented scheduling.

Networks love having at least 1 wildcard. It helps them out when the champions are located to close too one another.

Wildcards come from within JR, and do not supplant a division/conference champion,

3 champs and an at large.

(06-07-2019 01:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 11:34 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 10:22 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 05:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 10:43 PM)JRsec Wrote:  If it transpires it would be a game changer for them. 750 million divided 13 ways to account for a conference share is 57.7 million per school, roughly in line with SEC revenue projected from a T1 renewal. Since the Big 10 is at 54 pending their next contract renewal we could be looking at our new ceiling leaving the the Big 12 roughly 20 million behind and the ACC around 25 million behind factoring in the ACCN.

That would create a strange new paradigm in which the SEC, Big 10 and PAC would be positioned to grow out of the other two.

But it's always good PR to say you have multiple offers in hand, even if you don't. Whose going to know as long as you have 1.

Your concept is good JR, but your numbers are off. Three doesn't make any more sense than 5. It just doesn't work.
Even the AL and NL with three divisions each are a part of the bigger MLB (6 total).
Unless the American can be elevated to the 6th division (very doubtful), then if there is consolidation we would be looking at either 2 or 4 conferences.
Symmetry is a must for playoff oriented scheduling.

Networks love having at least 1 wildcard. It helps them out when the champions are located to close too one another.

Wildcards come from within JR, and do not supplant a division/conference champion,

3 champs and an at large.

This for the ACC as well.