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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(02-05-2021 10:36 PM)GE and MTS Wrote: https://247sports.com/Article/Hugh-Freez...160395112/
Hugh Freeze wants Liberty to join a conference. Doesn't specify which one(s).
Depends on the conference. Independent works well. If a better overall situation (conference) opens up, consider it.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(02-06-2021 10:55 AM)WesternSkillet Wrote: (02-05-2021 10:36 PM)GE and MTS Wrote: https://247sports.com/Article/Hugh-Freez...160395112/
Hugh Freeze wants Liberty to join a conference. Doesn't specify which one(s).
Depends on the conference. Independent works well. If a better overall situation (conference) opens up, consider it.
Bare minimum..... AAC. Neither C-USA nor Sun Belt interest me anymore. Maybe a combination of the two..... maybe.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(01-26-2021 07:08 PM)WesternSkillet Wrote: New ASUN map for 2021.
Then grab Chattanooga, ETSU, W. Carolina, and either West Florida or N.C. A&T. They would all raise the ASUN profile.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
With the ASUN increasing in size, it is likely we won't play everyone home/home annually in basketball. So who do you want to prioritize?
1. Lipscomb is likely our biggest (and I use that term very loosely) rival. We've played them 10 times in our history, 2 more than any other ASUN school which isn't saying much but a lot has been on the line with our games and they've upset us a couple times. They are in a bordering state.
2. North Florida is similar to Lipscomb as they've been the biggest threat to beat us for the ASUN championship but UNF has the better recruiting area for us.
3. Florida Gulf Coast has the brand name and the recruiting area.
After that, I don't particularly care. I should say that Central Arkansas is the opponent I care least about. They have no history, aren't nearby, and don't have a good recruiting area. Bellarmine is next lowest (sorry BU fans) to me. A small Kentucky private school without national relevance that is just moving up to Division I isn't exciting to me. Having said that, I totally get that a rural Virginia private school with politically polarizing stances and an overwhelming online presence can be rather hard to want to associate with so it goes both ways.
A perfect division for us would be the Florida Four and Lipscomb but that looks impossible.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(02-14-2021 09:22 AM)GE and MTS Wrote: With the ASUN increasing in size, it is likely we won't play everyone home/home annually in basketball. So who do you want to prioritize?
1. Bellarmine - We are going to discover quickly how good and competitive they are. They will become a challenge for us. Private like us. Border state.
2. Lipscomb - They are the closest thing we have to a rival now. I believe it will grow. And again, private like us and border state.
3. FGCU - They still have some name recognition and maybe they’ll be competitive again some day. None-the-less, they have a great location to visit.
4. North Florida - They play us tough (similarly to Stetson) and I like their coach.
5. EKU - They are pretty good at basketball, in a boarder state. That’s about it.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
Boise and SDSU are thinking about leaving the MWC for the AAC. It’s likely a spot or two opens in CUSA if they do.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(05-05-2021 03:35 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: Boise and SDSU are thinking about leaving the MWC for the AAC. It’s likely a spot or two opens in CUSA if they do.
Those travel cost are nuts for BSU and SDSU if they make that move.
I'm not interested in CUSA. Independent football works very well.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(05-05-2021 05:26 PM)WesternSkillet Wrote: (05-05-2021 03:35 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: Boise and SDSU are thinking about leaving the MWC for the AAC. It’s likely a spot or two opens in CUSA if they do.
Those travel cost are nuts for BSU and SDSU if they make that move.
I'm not interested in CUSA. Independent football works very well.
Depending upon who leaves, I may be okay with an invite for all sports but football. But the conference is already pretty crowded and only one basketball bid. Adding us doesn't get them close to AAC levels even if we assume they lose the worst schools. It's a really weird conference because I see stuff to like about each school individually but the whole is not greater than the sum of the parts.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(05-06-2021 05:49 AM)GE and MTS Wrote: (05-05-2021 05:26 PM)WesternSkillet Wrote: (05-05-2021 03:35 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: Boise and SDSU are thinking about leaving the MWC for the AAC. It’s likely a spot or two opens in CUSA if they do.
Those travel cost are nuts for BSU and SDSU if they make that move.
I'm not interested in CUSA. Independent football works very well.
Depending upon who leaves, I may be okay with an invite for all sports but football. But the conference is already pretty crowded and only one basketball bid. Adding us doesn't get them close to AAC levels even if we assume they lose the worst schools. It's a really weird conference because I see stuff to like about each school individually but the whole is not greater than the sum of the parts.
UTEP would be the likely school to leave. There is zero chance Liberty gets the invite without football coming with it.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
It’s all or nothing for C-USA. There will be no all except football invite. Not sure C-USA is the answer for us. It would be an honor to receive an invitation though. I’m not counting on that happening.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
Well, things are happening and money always talks. Any additional thoughts or changes in anyone's opinion? Will Big 12 restock with some high G5's or will they dissolve/reimage like the Big East a decade plus ago. Is there any opportunity for Liberty in the near future? Is there a possible emergence of a new eastern conference? What are the ACC thinking right now based on OU/Texas decisions? Will they expand even more By adding WVU/ISU? Will geography become a factor or is money more of the focus?
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(07-23-2021 04:25 PM)cruzan_flame13 Wrote: Well, things are happening and money always talks. Any additional thoughts or changes in anyone's opinion? Will Big 12 restock with some high G5's or will they dissolve/reimage like the Big East a decade plus ago. Is there any opportunity for Liberty in the near future? Is there a possible emergence of a new eastern conference? What are the ACC thinking right now based on OU/Texas decisions? Will they expand even more By adding WVU/ISU? Will geography become a factor or is money more of the focus?
Oh has there been some realignment news? /Sarcasm
With Texas and Oklahoma headed to the SEC, I think that crushes us as far as us getting into a P5. Granted, this was a very long shot but I thought we could move up to the American as their #12, then get the call by the Big 12 to be the travel partner for West Virginia. Now the Big 12 won't be a power conference and the SEC is even fuller with a higher bar for us to leap if we want to join.
I expect the remaining Big 12 schools to take any life raft they can to a P5 conference. I think Kansas has a shot at the Big Ten but nobody else. The Big Ten will probably go for the usual suspects of Notre Dame, North Carolina, and Virginia. Will they think outside the box and try for Clemson and Florida State? I can't imagine those two being happy about their SEC rivals essentially doubling their media revenue. If those two leave, that severely cripples the ACC's value.
If I were the Big 12, I'd get BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, and USF. Houston makes sense to keep as much territory in Texas as possible but I think BYU is the best available, Cincinnati is the best WVU travel partner, and UCF is the best remaining but needs a travel partner and USF is a good school. Memphis could pair with Houston if the Florida schools are undesirable.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
Are you guys hearing any rumors on football adds for the ASUN?
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(07-25-2021 06:18 PM)SMUfan Wrote: Are you guys hearing any rumors on football adds for the ASUN?
No, but if you have heard anything, do tell haha
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
the AAC would be a great place for Freeze (even for McKay) to grow the program to greater heights that many cannot imagine. If Freeze really meant what he said in an interview about "staying as long as he is wanted" then he can create a bigger spark for the program while playing among those left in the AAC. Let's say the ACC remove the bottom feeders of the conference, that'll leave Wake Forest, GT, SU, BC and Pitt without a home (although GT, BC and Wake may stay based on academic funding). This is just for fun, so I'll create a scenario for the future AAC if those schools joins the conference.
East: BC, SU, Temple, Pitt, LU :) , ECU, SFU, GT
West: SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Marshall, App State, Louisiana, Boise State (if PAC doesn't take them), UNLV/SDSU/USU
This is not a bad conference!
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Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
I'm sure IC is talking to people. LU is as prepared as it can be for the next realignment. I was hoping for a few more years. That would have given LU althetics more time to shine and LU academics more time to grow (which is happening).
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
(07-25-2021 07:30 PM)WesternSkillet Wrote: I'm sure IC is talking to people. LU is as prepared as it can be for the next realignment. I was hoping for a few more years. That would have given LU althetics more time to shine and LU academics more time to grow (which is happening).
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I completely agree. As great as Freeze and McKay have done, I wanted more time for them to achieve even more with us and continue to set us apart.
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RE: Realignment/Possible Liberty Future
Time is never a given; what matters is the decision(s) that is made after.
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