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Of course not. That’s why I laughed at it. We’ll take whatever we can get and be thankful for it.
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I’ve heard nothing about any conference shift for sports not sponsored by C-USA. Wonder if Indy is the route we’ll be forced to take. That would not be a good sign for us.
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(09-05-2022 10:31 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I’ve heard nothing about any conference shift for sports not sponsored by C-USA. Wonder if Indy is the route we’ll be forced to take. That would not be a good sign for us.

Still nothing?

Do y’all think they will split C-USA into 2 five team divisions or just keep everyone bunched together. We
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With how spread out the conference is would it make more sense to have the three closest teams to each school as a protected rival and rotate the other teams instead of divisions? With only 10 teams it just doesn't make sense in my mind to have divisions. There are ways to limit travel without traditional east/west divisions.

As for our sports not sponsored by C-USA, I imagine we'll have an answer by Christmas. I doubt we will go independent but if we did we would be putting ourselves at a big disadvantage trying to schedule games on such short notice if we wait much longer to make an announcement. For context the hockey program announced they were going independent by late October several years ago to give themselves almost a full year to schedule games.
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Some rumors about the PAC and SMU in talks. Could open up a spot in the AAC. Dominos might be falling again.

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I dont think w are going anywhere anytime soon but this could indirectly be good for us. SMU is spending way more than the rest of G5 on NIL so this would provide an easier path for us to be the top G5 and get into the expanded CFP.
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I can’t imagine the AAC knocking at our door in the near future… but it would be interesting.
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For now, I am grateful that we are leaving the ASUN behind with its ever-changing rules & horrible broadcasting. I am grateful that we will have a consistent football schedule to look forward to w guaranteed conference games so that if we lose out on an OOC game, it's less detrimental. Gone are the days of being worried about if all 12 matchups will stand pat or not. And, we can compete for an FBS Conference Championship in all sports, with a possible future shot at playoffs in football if we do our part during the season.

Unless we get word that we're moving to another conference, I choose to be happy about where we are beginning in '23. 03-phew02-13-banana
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(02-08-2023 10:18 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I can’t imagine the AAC knocking at our door in the near future… but it would be interesting.

I can’t imagine the AAC knocking on our door anytime soon either. But if you go on the AAC board, they’re talking about replacement teams if SMU leaves. One of the teams mentioned by several posters is Liberty. There are those who give that idea a big no of course, but there was a time, not long ago, when Liberty even being considered would have never happened.
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(02-10-2023 06:25 PM)3DogNight Wrote:  
(02-08-2023 10:18 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I can’t imagine the AAC knocking at our door in the near future… but it would be interesting.

I can’t imagine the AAC knocking on our door anytime soon either. But if you go on the AAC board, they’re talking about replacement teams if SMU leaves. One of the teams mentioned by several posters is Liberty. There are those who give that idea a big no of course, but there was a time, not long ago, when Liberty even being considered would have never happened.
I watched the podcast yesterday, "Winning Cures Everything". His info is free of conspiracy theories and has balanced, thoughtful info. The podcast was labeled what actions would the AAC take if SMU goes to the PAC 10. The poster started with LU as the most interesting team for the AAC to consider. There was a casual mention that LU controversial views would be a factor. Like others have said, for LU to be mentioned in the conversation is an advancement.

With Jr. gone, the school has only been dealing with past baggage, which in time diminishes in importance. If LU can stay below the radar with political and social views overtly expressed, and if Chadwell can keep a good, winning team on the field, LU's appeal will continue to rise.

On the basketball side, McKay is also getting favorable mention. If FB and MBB continues to improve, so will LU in it's appeal, maybe even for the AAC after a year or two in the C-USA.
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Only 2 years ago the AAC added Charlotte, rice, north Texas, FAU, UTSA and UAB. Not one of those schools have had sustained success through a coaching change. Unless their priorities have changed drastically in the last couple years they clearly don't care about winning. They were just desperate to appease tv networks with big market teams. It's nice to be talked about favorably on occasion but we don't fit what the AAC is looking for regardless of "controversial views." The jump from asun to cusa is already pretty big. I wouldn't mind taking a few years to adjust before moving up again.
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Winning Cures Everything link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_mhIXvwe500

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(02-11-2023 10:01 AM)Frontierman Wrote:  Only 2 years ago the AAC added Charlotte, rice, north Texas, FAU, UTSA and UAB. Not one of those schools have had sustained success through a coaching change. Unless their priorities have changed drastically in the last couple years they clearly don't care about winning. They were just desperate to appease tv networks with big market teams. It's nice to be talked about favorably on occasion but we don't fit what the AAC is looking for regardless of "controversial views." The jump from asun to cusa is already pretty big. I wouldn't mind taking a few years to adjust before moving up again.
I too think the C-USA is a good move for LU. One can hope LU succeeds in the conference with continued winning and success. It seems the LU perception from others has shifted from previous foot-in-mouth past actions, to recognition of top notch facilities, financial commitment from the admin, push to achieve success via sports, and most important, winning. Charlotte and the other teams mentioned were due to market size rather than on field success. Uniquely, LU seems to have a greater national presence than those other schools, which is an advantage for LU. LU has a relatively small market so the national presence is a key for LU to move beyond C-USA.

Am to believe that LU feels it's perpetual home is in the C-USA is fodder. That is an admirable position for LU to have to play at a higher level as it displays the high bar the school strives for. Few G5 schools can claim that's their position. Many schools may say it, few can truly school can say and believe it. LU does have that potential.
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(02-11-2023 11:21 AM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  Winning Cures Everything link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_mhIXvwe500

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WS, glad you put the YouTube link in the post. I should have but didn't.
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Something I'm curious about if the AAC decides to backfill is how much influence espn actually has here. Did espn actually encourage them to add from cusa and avoid the sunbelt or is that just something that sunbelt fans tell themselves because they aren't very attractive in realignment. If ESPN didn't tell the AAC to avoid sunbelt schools then I think Texas st, Georgia St or ODU will be chosen if army still isn't interested. If espn tells them they want the AAC to backfill from CUSA then MTSU seems like option 1 for the Nashville market but Memphis might throw a fit about that option. Honestly it's slim pickings for the AAC this time around.
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(02-11-2023 06:02 PM)Frontierman Wrote:  Something I'm curious about if the AAC decides to backfill is how much influence espn actually has here. Did espn actually encourage them to add from cusa and avoid the sunbelt or is that just something that sunbelt fans tell themselves because they aren't very attractive in realignment. If ESPN didn't tell the AAC to avoid sunbelt schools then I think Texas st, Georgia St or ODU will be chosen if army still isn't interested. If espn tells them they want the AAC to backfill from CUSA then MTSU seems like option 1 for the Nashville market but Memphis might throw a fit about that option. Honestly it's slim pickings for the AAC this time around.
From what i have gathered from posters on CSNBBS only, ESPN seems to be the big dog controlling where to select schools from in conferences they control. One mention is because the TV relationships with each conference differs (SB w/ESPN, present CUSA CBSN), the networks attempt to maneuver teams to their financial gain. With ESPN being the exclusive or almost exclusive platform for several conferences, then ESPN makes decisions, in it's own financial interest, that effects member schools, leaving a conference and or joining a conference. ESPN is in bed with the SB and currently not CUSA. The TV relationships with the conferences is a hodge podge. Even the new CUSA TV agreement has ESPN, ESPN+, CBSN in a multi platform agreement. It's all very confusing.

One thing is an absolute. The TV networks will first do what is in their best interest. There is no sentimentality there for school's. Only dollars and cents rule.
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For further reference, the 2023 Nielsen Designated Market Areas has Roanoke-Lynchburg ranked as 71.
IMO That market ranking is not going to help nor hurt Liberty's market situation.
It is a top 100 market but not a must-have-market either.

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Current rumors are saying that the PAC is looking at 4 schools. Most are MW plus SMU from the AAC.
I'm wondering if the MW might consider UTEP and NMSU. This could impact CUSA. The AAC would also likely backfill.
If any of these moves occur, it will impact LU.

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(03-04-2023 10:27 AM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  Current rumors are saying that the PAC is looking at 4 schools. Most are MW plus SMU from the AAC.
I'm wondering if the MW might consider UTEP and NMSU. This could impact CUSA. The AAC would also likely backfill.
If any of these moves occur, it will impact LU.

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I wouldn’t be too surprised if MWC considered those two, but I don’t believe they would be their primary targets. I would think Dakotas or Montanas would be first in line, even if they are FCS.

I doubt Liberty would be the AAC first pick either. They like big metro cities. We’re probably quite a way down their list.

I’m still wondering where our women’s sports that were displaced when we joined C-USA are going to be playing or are they going Independent?
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I don't see a scenario where the MWC calls up a FCS school unless they get desperate. I bet they start expanding east and target Texas schools. The Dakota schools are just as far away from the MWC footprint as most of Texas.
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