If I had to put money on it, it would be Trump, but I would've put money on Hillary last time. To win the election, they'll have to flip states, not just get more voters. I don't know how many popular votes you can get and still lose, but I have a feeling we're going to see.

Trump isn't going to lose or gain voters. The people who love him, love him. The people who hate him, hate him. There is no in-between so there is nobody new for him to pick off unless the number of his supporters' children that will become eligible to vote is significantly high. Thing is: the people the democrats gain will have to be from the right places and I don't see that happening either.

(06-12-2019 09:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Trump is down 35 to biden with women, and he’s down 15 with whites since 2016. The base is even turning at this point.

Barring some major, unforeseen accomplishment (press X to doubt), we’re looking at a landslide in 2020.

You're wrong here buddy.

Didn’t read the article, but that number doesn’t surprise me at all. I won’t be voting for trump but think he will win. Same for many people I’ve talked to. A poll asking who you think will win is very different from who will you vote for.

(06-09-2019 06:40 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  It's a slam dunk!

Barring any late surprises it may well be the most lopsided landslide ever. Buckle up buttercup.

Will probably be the biggest landslide in American history.

I will admit, I am very worried that Trump will not be re-elected. Not that I like Trump, I just dislike every single democrat far more.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but damn, I wish my enemies had better enemies.

(06-15-2019 08:45 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I will admit, I am very worried that Trump will not be re-elected. Not that I like Trump, I just dislike every single democrat far more.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but damn, I wish my enemies had better enemies.

Well then, the Republicans need to spend this year cleaning up bogus names and dead people from the registered voters lists in all major blue cities and Broward County. Then we need to be ready to challenge the BS that happens, and make sure we have adequate poll watchers in all suspect precincts and challenge all absentee ballots that show up a day late. We let far too many house seats go this past election because we weren't ready to defend procedures in the corrupt blue precincts across the nation.

(06-15-2019 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:45 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I will admit, I am very worried that Trump will not be re-elected. Not that I like Trump, I just dislike every single democrat far more.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but damn, I wish my enemies had better enemies.

Well then, the Republicans need to spend this year cleaning up bogus names and dead people from the registered voters lists in all major blue cities and Broward County. Then we need to be ready to challenge the BS that happens, and make sure we have adequate poll watchers in all suspect precincts and challenge all absentee ballots that show up a day late. We let far too many house seats go this past election because we weren't ready to defend procedures in the corrupt blue precincts across the nation.

Keep pushing that bull****. Keep ignoring the fact that the largest case of fraud just came out of the Republican Party in nc. Enough so that the republican board of elections called for a new election.

(06-15-2019 09:07 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:45 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I will admit, I am very worried that Trump will not be re-elected. Not that I like Trump, I just dislike every single democrat far more.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but damn, I wish my enemies had better enemies.

Well then, the Republicans need to spend this year cleaning up bogus names and dead people from the registered voters lists in all major blue cities and Broward County. Then we need to be ready to challenge the BS that happens, and make sure we have adequate poll watchers in all suspect precincts and challenge all absentee ballots that show up a day late. We let far too many house seats go this past election because we weren't ready to defend procedures in the corrupt blue precincts across the nation.

Keep pushing that bull****. Keep ignoring the fact that the largest case of fraud just came out of the Republican Party in nc. Enough so that the republican board of elections called for a new election.

BS in New Mexico? Arizona? Utah? Atlanta? and I sure as hell didn't hear any damned Democrats calling for a new election in Broward? How about that lackey! And I think I left a couple out in California.

And by the way it was the Republican candidate that first requested a new election. I don't think Abrams has conceded yet and is still griping about it while dodging her bills and already positioning her muckraking self for a bigger Blue office.

(06-15-2019 09:07 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:45 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I will admit, I am very worried that Trump will not be re-elected. Not that I like Trump, I just dislike every single democrat far more.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but damn, I wish my enemies had better enemies.

Well then, the Republicans need to spend this year cleaning up bogus names and dead people from the registered voters lists in all major blue cities and Broward County. Then we need to be ready to challenge the BS that happens, and make sure we have adequate poll watchers in all suspect precincts and challenge all absentee ballots that show up a day late. We let far too many house seats go this past election because we weren't ready to defend procedures in the corrupt blue precincts across the nation.

Keep pushing that bull****. Keep ignoring the fact that the largest case of fraud just came out of the Republican Party in nc. Enough so that the republican board of elections called for a new election.

Note that a republican board of elections called for a new election. If the shoe were on the other foot, what would a democrat board of elections have done?

My guess is that what they would do--and have done, more than once--is to sweep it under the rug.

(06-15-2019 03:25 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(06-12-2019 09:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Trump is down 35 to biden with women, and he’s down 15 with whites since 2016. The base is even turning at this point.

Barring some major, unforeseen accomplishment (press X to doubt), we’re looking at a landslide in 2020.

You're wrong here buddy.

Nope. Trump won by 78k votes, and there are vast segments of his former base that are over his inaction/failure on the border and internet censorship/deplatforming, and they aren’t going to come out in 2020.

Just in case there was any doubt, Texas and Arizona are now lean-blue.

Oh, and felons can vote in Florida.

(06-15-2019 09:13 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 03:25 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(06-12-2019 09:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Trump is down 35 to biden with women, and he’s down 15 with whites since 2016. The base is even turning at this point.

Barring some major, unforeseen accomplishment (press X to doubt), we’re looking at a landslide in 2020.

You're wrong here buddy.

Nope. Trump won by 78k votes, and there are vast segments of his former base that are over his inaction/failure on the border and internet censorship/deplatforming, and they aren’t going to come out in 2020.

Just in case there was any doubt, Texas and Arizona are now lean-blue.

Oh, and felons can vote in Florida.

Oh, it will definitely be an ugly ugly election, and the press, and militant groups will be out in force. And the outcome a year away is certainly no forgone conclusion. That is why the Republicans need to be in a bar fighting mood this time around instead of letting thugs steal a few seats here and there.

But make no mistake Kronke the middle class everywhere has been turned off by AOC, Ilhan, and Antifa and that baggage will be a millstone around the necks of the Dems next time out. At least the Republicans have a rude crude dude to head up the fight. And frankly Biden won't be your guy. He's too old for group think young kids coming out of high school and college, he's too white for the minorities, and he's too male for radical feminists. And Biden is straight.

In short Kronke he ain't got a prayer! So the Dems will run another dim witted caricature of a candidate and normal America will be motivated to keep a freak show out of the White House.

(06-12-2019 07:44 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-12-2019 07:40 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-12-2019 07:12 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(06-11-2019 09:57 PM)banker Wrote:  

(06-11-2019 07:13 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

So you believe a poll that has Biden winning by Reaganesque numbers and handing an incumbent the worst defeat in history? Solid plan.

I no longer believe in any poll but the counterpoint to this OP is that the realclearpolitics poll clearinghouse doesn't have indiv. 1 winning nationally against any Dem. except maybe de Blasio.

Keep reading it, over and over, until it becomes your truth.

That IS his truth. That’s what is scary. The left believes even the most ridiculous garbage fed to them. Really scary for our country.

If only people on the right were self aware enough to know that they too take in copious amounts of garbage mistaken for truth.

(06-15-2019 09:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 09:07 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:45 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I will admit, I am very worried that Trump will not be re-elected. Not that I like Trump, I just dislike every single democrat far more.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but damn, I wish my enemies had better enemies.

Well then, the Republicans need to spend this year cleaning up bogus names and dead people from the registered voters lists in all major blue cities and Broward County. Then we need to be ready to challenge the BS that happens, and make sure we have adequate poll watchers in all suspect precincts and challenge all absentee ballots that show up a day late. We let far too many house seats go this past election because we weren't ready to defend procedures in the corrupt blue precincts across the nation.

Keep pushing that bull****. Keep ignoring the fact that the largest case of fraud just came out of the Republican Party in nc. Enough so that the republican board of elections called for a new election.

BS in New Mexico? Arizona? Utah? Atlanta? and I sure as hell didn't hear any damned Democrats calling for a new election in Broward? How about that lackey! And I think I left a couple out in California.

And by the way it was the Republican candidate that first requested a new election. I don't think Abrams has conceded yet and is still griping about it while dodging her bills and already positioning her muckraking self for a bigger Blue office.

More absentee ballot bs. I agree we should crack down on that. But republicans don’t seem to want to clean up absentee voting.

And no, the republican candidate in nc was not the first to request a new election. He fought it until his own son testified against him. Then, when it was inevitable that a new election would be called he announced that ther should me a new election and he wouldn’t run due to health.

(06-15-2019 10:27 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 09:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 09:07 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 08:45 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I will admit, I am very worried that Trump will not be re-elected. Not that I like Trump, I just dislike every single democrat far more.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but damn, I wish my enemies had better enemies.

Well then, the Republicans need to spend this year cleaning up bogus names and dead people from the registered voters lists in all major blue cities and Broward County. Then we need to be ready to challenge the BS that happens, and make sure we have adequate poll watchers in all suspect precincts and challenge all absentee ballots that show up a day late. We let far too many house seats go this past election because we weren't ready to defend procedures in the corrupt blue precincts across the nation.

Keep pushing that bull****. Keep ignoring the fact that the largest case of fraud just came out of the Republican Party in nc. Enough so that the republican board of elections called for a new election.

BS in New Mexico? Arizona? Utah? Atlanta? and I sure as hell didn't hear any damned Democrats calling for a new election in Broward? How about that lackey! And I think I left a couple out in California.

And by the way it was the Republican candidate that first requested a new election. I don't think Abrams has conceded yet and is still griping about it while dodging her bills and already positioning her muckraking self for a bigger Blue office.

More absentee ballot bs. I agree we should crack down on that. But republicans don’t seem to want to clean up absentee voting.

And no, the republican candidate in nc was not the first to request a new election. He fought it until his own son testified against him. Then, when it was inevitable that a new election would be called he announced that ther should me a new election and he wouldn’t run due to health.

Even if that were accurate, which I don't believe it is, it's one incident against oodles where the Dems cheated and Blue states wouldn't investigate. The fraud in voting in this country runs deep with the Democrats, all the way back to the mafia rigging WV for Kennedy, which was small potatoes to LBJ's shenanigans. So spare me your group think talking points. Elections have been dirty for a long time, but the Republicans can't hold a candle to the Black Panther intimidation of white voters in Pennsylvania when Obama ran, the regular election fiasco that is Broward County in Florida, and sometimes Dade, and the ballot stuffing in precincts in every Blue City in the country. And that's not even get into the illegals who managed to vote in California.

You reap what you sow. I think the country will vote Republican in the next election. I think it will be a war. It will be ugly, but I hope for everyone's sake not too ugly, but that possibility looms. But when my generation has passed, and corporate elites show their face for the fascist they are, your generation will live in a kind of serfdom where you are never truly free, never truly happy, and without hope. And it will be because in your ignorance you reaped what you sowed. And I'm not against you, because my grandchildren will be among you.

But your generation has not been tested, has no social cohesion, and as far as I can tell doesn't possess enough leadership skills to work your way out of it. It's so very sad. You won't believe me now, but remember this in about 20 years. You were taught lies, praised for learning them, and too naive to accept the truth when you were told by those who had experience all of it before.

(06-15-2019 09:13 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 03:25 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(06-12-2019 09:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Trump is down 35 to biden with women, and he’s down 15 with whites since 2016. The base is even turning at this point.

Barring some major, unforeseen accomplishment (press X to doubt), we’re looking at a landslide in 2020.

You're wrong here buddy.

Nope. Trump won by 78k votes, and there are vast segments of his former base that are over his inaction/failure on the border and internet censorship/deplatforming, and they aren’t going to come out in 2020.

Just in case there was any doubt, Texas and Arizona are now lean-blue.

Oh, and felons can vote in Florida.

Texas isn't a lean blue. And if/when it does go that way it's time to leave and find somewhere else to live.

(06-16-2019 05:55 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 09:13 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 03:25 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(06-12-2019 09:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Trump is down 35 to biden with women, and he’s down 15 with whites since 2016. The base is even turning at this point.

Barring some major, unforeseen accomplishment (press X to doubt), we’re looking at a landslide in 2020.

You're wrong here buddy.

Nope. Trump won by 78k votes, and there are vast segments of his former base that are over his inaction/failure on the border and internet censorship/deplatforming, and they aren’t going to come out in 2020.

Just in case there was any doubt, Texas and Arizona are now lean-blue.

Oh, and felons can vote in Florida.

Texas isn't a lean blue. And if/when it does go that way it's time to leave and find somewhere else to live.

Then you better hope that the turnout among the rural areas is stronger than that of the cities. Almost every major city in Texas has turned blue, just like almost every major urban center across the country.

Indiv. 1 gets shut out today:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

If the economy is booming?...Trump wins handily. If not?...He has a problem.

The economy is booming and he has a problem.

Pretty much the same as Trumps internals that he said didn't exist until they did.

He has a problem.

Now he's fired the pollsters that didn't exist.