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The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
Uncannily similar ascents.

Per the Massey Composite:

2015 - Texas Tech finished 144, Houston finished 201
2016 - Tech 52, Houston 65
2017 - Tech 58, Houston 56
2018 - Tech 12, Houston 18
2019 - Tech 5, Houston 10

Kelvin Sampson started at Houston in 2015.

Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done.

Auburn has experienced a similar rise under Bruce Pearl, who started in 2015 as well. Per Massey Composite:

2015 - 131
2016 - 179
2017 - 86
2018 - 21
2019 - 11

As has Tennessee, with Rick Barnes taking over in 2016:

2015 - 85
2016 - 110
2017 - 69
2018 - 14
2019 - 9

In addition to new coaches, Auburn and Houston's programs were bolstered by new arenas as well.
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
The folks in Austin must be crying in their beer. Texas did win the NIT this year (with a memorable victory over Lipscomb). But they have been passed by Tech and Houston while watching the coach they fired light up Tennessee. They must be wondering when their $3.3 million contract with Shaka Smart will get them what they thought they were buying (NCAA victories, not NIT victories; conference championships, not participation ribbons). Shaka's best year at Texas was year #1 with Rick Barnes roster. If it wasn't for that $13 million buyout...
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
Barnes seemed to have plateaued at Texas, but he should not be underestimated. He's won everywhere.
Shaka has yet to prove himself at Texas.
06-07-2019 10:46 AM
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
(06-07-2019 06:35 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Uncannily similar ascents.

Per the Massey Composite:

2015 - Texas Tech finished 144, Houston finished 201
2016 - Tech 52, Houston 65
2017 - Tech 58, Houston 56
2018 - Tech 12, Houston 18
2019 - Tech 5, Houston 10

Kelvin Sampson started at Houston in 2015.

Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done.

Auburn has experienced a similar rise under Bruce Pearl, who started in 2015 as well. Per Massey Composite:

2015 - 131
2016 - 179
2017 - 86
2018 - 21
2019 - 11

As has Tennessee, with Rick Barnes taking over in 2016:

2015 - 85
2016 - 110
2017 - 69
2018 - 14
2019 - 9

In addition to new coaches, Auburn and Houston's programs were bolstered by new arenas as well.

It's been fun watching Texas Tech the last few years and I believe Beard is just scratching the surface with 2 Elite 8's and a National Championship appearance.

No doubt Texas Tech and UH have the 2 best basketball programs in the state of Texas right now. Tech lost a ton from the 2018 team that made the Elite 8 but reloaded and played for a National Championship in 2019.

2019-2020 should be fun. Good luck to UH and Wreck Em Tech.

OT: Texas Tech and UH are fighting for a T&F National Championship in Austin tonight.
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
Texas Tech just won the Men's Track & Field National Championship in Austin.

Guns up and Wreck Em Tech. Raider Power
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
(06-07-2019 06:35 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  ... Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done...

I thought it was against the law in Texas for a Houston fan to say something good about Texas Tech?
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
(06-07-2019 09:33 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Texas Tech just won the Men's Track & Field National Championship in Austin.

Guns up and Wreck Em Tech. Raider Power

Helluva Spring for Texas Tech! Congrats!

Coogs finish 3rd for the second year in a row.
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
(06-07-2019 09:33 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Texas Tech just won the Men's Track & Field National Championship in Austin.

Guns up and Wreck Em Tech. Raider Power

Guns up and Wreck em I like

But “Raider Power”? Yikes
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
(06-07-2019 06:12 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 06:35 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Uncannily similar ascents.

Per the Massey Composite:

2015 - Texas Tech finished 144, Houston finished 201
2016 - Tech 52, Houston 65
2017 - Tech 58, Houston 56
2018 - Tech 12, Houston 18
2019 - Tech 5, Houston 10

Kelvin Sampson started at Houston in 2015.

Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done.

Auburn has experienced a similar rise under Bruce Pearl, who started in 2015 as well. Per Massey Composite:

2015 - 131
2016 - 179
2017 - 86
2018 - 21
2019 - 11

As has Tennessee, with Rick Barnes taking over in 2016:

2015 - 85
2016 - 110
2017 - 69
2018 - 14
2019 - 9

In addition to new coaches, Auburn and Houston's programs were bolstered by new arenas as well.

It's been fun watching Texas Tech the last few years and I believe Beard is just scratching the surface with 2 Elite 8's and a National Championship appearance.

No doubt Texas Tech and UH have the 2 best basketball programs in the state of Texas right now. Tech lost a ton from the 2018 team that made the Elite 8 but reloaded and played for a National Championship in 2019.

2019-2020 should be fun. Good luck to UH and Wreck Em Tech.

OT: Texas Tech and UH are fighting for a T&F National Championship in Austin tonight.

So you are guaranteeing a MBB National Championship? I think everyone will take that bet.
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
(06-08-2019 09:58 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 06:12 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 06:35 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Uncannily similar ascents.

Per the Massey Composite:

2015 - Texas Tech finished 144, Houston finished 201
2016 - Tech 52, Houston 65
2017 - Tech 58, Houston 56
2018 - Tech 12, Houston 18
2019 - Tech 5, Houston 10

Kelvin Sampson started at Houston in 2015.

Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done.

Auburn has experienced a similar rise under Bruce Pearl, who started in 2015 as well. Per Massey Composite:

2015 - 131
2016 - 179
2017 - 86
2018 - 21
2019 - 11

As has Tennessee, with Rick Barnes taking over in 2016:

2015 - 85
2016 - 110
2017 - 69
2018 - 14
2019 - 9

In addition to new coaches, Auburn and Houston's programs were bolstered by new arenas as well.

It's been fun watching Texas Tech the last few years and I believe Beard is just scratching the surface with 2 Elite 8's and a National Championship appearance.

No doubt Texas Tech and UH have the 2 best basketball programs in the state of Texas right now. Tech lost a ton from the 2018 team that made the Elite 8 but reloaded and played for a National Championship in 2019.

2019-2020 should be fun. Good luck to UH and Wreck Em Tech.

OT: Texas Tech and UH are fighting for a T&F National Championship in Austin tonight.

So you are guaranteeing a MBB National Championship? I think everyone will take that bet.

That Texas Tech played for a MBB National Championship in 2019??? Yes, I guarantee it but I hated the OT loss to Virginia.04-cheers

I hope we can win the championship in 2020 which is the next time the game will be played. I think the Final 4 will be played in Atlanta.
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
(06-07-2019 07:47 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  The folks in Austin must be crying in their beer. Texas did win the NIT this year (with a memorable victory over Lipscomb). But they have been passed by Tech and Houston while watching the coach they fired light up Tennessee. They must be wondering when their $3.3 million contract with Shaka Smart will get them what they thought they were buying (NCAA victories, not NIT victories; conference championships, not participation ribbons). Shaka's best year at Texas was year #1 with Rick Barnes roster. If it wasn't for that $13 million buyout...

So memorable I remember nothing about it. Winning the NIT is worthless. Making it is all that really counts in the grand scheme of things.

Shaka Smart is the most overrated coach I can think of, he has yet to field an elite team. He rose to stardom with a mid-major fantasy that got hot in a tournament they didn't deserve to play in with his patented style. He's gotten away from that and now he sucks. Texas was a horrible fit, he should have gone to the ACC, Big East or Pac-12.
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
Will Texas hang their NIT banner?
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
I thought that one of the programs would be TCU.

If you don't count regional 3rd place games, TCU has won 2 NCAA tournament games. Before Dixon was hired, they hadn't been to the tourney in 20 years. Their all-time winning percentage is .466. By any metric, they're one of the worst 5 all-time P5 basketball programs.

And now Jamie Dixon has gotten them 67 wins over 3 years.
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RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs
I thought meteors are pretty much always falling?

And now back to your regularly scheduled program.
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