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2019-20 Rules Updates
At least in MBB...

3 pt. line in Division I moves back to international distance (adding roughly 18 inches or so). D-II and D-II in 2020-21 season.

Shot clock resets to 20 seconds on an offensive rebound

Head coach can call TO in last 2 minutes of 2nd half and OTs.

Technical fouls can be called for derogatory comments about religion/origin ...etc....

Replay will now add goaltending/basket interference calls in last 2 minutes of 2nd Half and OT.
06-05-2019 04:25 PM
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All encourages athleticism to rule supreme. Good shooting teams will see little difference, poor shooting teams will still struggle. For us this means we need to have some shooters on the floor to keep spacing in the lane. This will continue the push to higher scoring so we should prioritize smart pace and getting out and running more. With the new guys coming in this should come relatively easy.

I do not see a benefit for coaches calling live ball timeouts. Bails out good defense if someone is trapped.
06-06-2019 08:29 AM
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I see the shot clock reset on O-Boards to be an early challenge to the shot clock operators. Rebound gets batted by D into O hands. 20 or 30 second reset? Based on current reset rules possession would determine when the reset occurs...but is it an O-Board in this case? I suspect it would be since it's the first possession after the missed shot.

Suspect we'll see a fair number of 30s quickly reset to 20s. Pregame meetings with the floor officials will be longer this year.....
06-06-2019 01:53 PM
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(06-06-2019 01:53 PM)Timer Wrote:  I see the shot clock reset on O-Boards to be an early challenge to the shot clock operators. Rebound gets batted by D into O hands. 20 or 30 second reset? Based on current reset rules possession would determine when the reset occurs...but is it an O-Board in this case? I suspect it would be since it's the first possession after the missed shot.

Suspect we'll see a fair number of 30s quickly reset to 20s. Pregame meetings with the floor officials will be longer this year.....

I haven't paid attention recently, but I thought that being a shot clock operation was a one button job based on instinct. Now, I guess the shot clock person has to instantly be able to push either a 20 second or 30 second button based on who rebounds the ball? Sound like major margin for error.
06-06-2019 02:17 PM
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(06-06-2019 02:17 PM)J.B. Wrote:  I haven't paid attention recently, but I thought that being a shot clock operation was a one button job based on instinct. Now, I guess the shot clock person has to instantly be able to push either a 20 second or 30 second button based on who rebounds the ball? Sound like major margin for error.

Exactly! The handheld unit has a 30 second reset button, a 20 second reset and an on/off switch. (Well, actually the two buttons can be programmed for any amount of time from the main console. Due to different rules, the 2nd button (non 30 second) gets changed between Men's and Women's games).

Previously you hit the 30 second reset button once the ball hit hit the rim and held it until possession was gained by a player. Now....it'll be interesting. You can't let the clock just keep running until possession is established, so it'll be a choice making an assumption based on who the shot clock operator believes will gain possession and then quickly change it if needed. Resets will likely be a tick slower.

It will be interesting to see what protocol will come from the NCAA, if any. We won't get anything from the annual table officials' pre-season conference call since that is on the WBB side of things and run by the Head of Officials for the CAA, ACC and a few other regional conferences.
06-07-2019 11:39 AM
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what ever happened to rolling the ball out there and playing? it seems like every sports is making a million rule changes. i'm still catching up from when i was overseas.

the biggest thing college basketball needs to change is the one and done rule. don't make kids play in college if they don't want to. it's getting hard to find games that are appealing because duke-kentucky involves kids that are just there because they have to be.[/php] the zion williamson craze ruined any chance i had of being interested in march madness...which i usually love.
06-09-2019 06:31 PM
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It'll help keep you young Timer!
06-10-2019 09:10 AM
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(06-10-2019 09:10 AM)dan10 Wrote:  It'll help keep you young Timer!

Fortunately not one of my duties! Only if we need to do a shot clock reset from my panel if it was erroneously recycled (as determined by the on-court guys) or if they was a specific time set on the shot clock. Otherwise it the Shot Clock Operator's problem! We do have an excellent shot clock guy.
06-10-2019 12:29 PM
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It seems to me the shot clock operator would just hit the 30 second reset and hold it when the ball hits the rim, then if the offense gains possession just hit the 20-second reset button when you release the other one.

As far as rule changes go, I enjoy watching Drexel games now just as much as I did back in the 90s when I was in school. I guess I would prefer if we were winning and going to the Big Dance like back then, but the rule changes haven't affected how I enjoy watching. I'm not a big fan of the grad transfer rule. Selfishly I would have liked to see guys like Damion Lee, Tramaine Isabell, and Alihan Demir finish their careers as Dragons; but I'll still watch and enjoy the games with Trevor John and whoever replaces Alihan.
Although I'm not a big fan of the grad transfer rule, it is also hard to begrudge guys getting the opportunity to play college basketball at the highest level. To play in front of Big Ten and ACC crowds on a regular basis is an experience you don't get at Drexel and won't for the most part in pro ball in Europe either. The A10 isn't as much of a jump, but Saint Louis can draw big home crowds and Isabell took the opportunity to carry his team through the A10 tournament and got to the NCAA tournament. And even for guys who don't move up like that it may just be an opportunity to be in another system - for example Trevor John last year or Zeke Upshaw a few years ago at Hofstra who went from a nobody at Illinois St. to a 20 ppg scorer. I'd prefer loyalty but I'll watch no matter how things go.
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Hofstra has had a net gain from transfers. As seniors, Juan'ya Green won Player of the Year, and Upshaw and Mike Moore led the CAA in points per game. In 2017-2018, Hofstra's five most used players did not have any transfers. In the other eight of the last nine seasons, Hofstra started at least two transfers. Tareq Coburn is an active transfer to Hofstra. The seasons of outgoing transfers was when Chaz Williams and Halil Kanacevic were Hofstra's second and third leading scorers as freshmen in 2009-2010 and transferred. Williams is on the NCAA's career assists leaders, and if they stayed they would have played in Charles Jenkins' senior season in 2010-2011. I don't think Hofstra had anybody leave because of the graduate transfer rule.
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(06-14-2019 01:46 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  Hofstra has had a net gain from transfers. As seniors, Juan'ya Green won Player of the Year, and Upshaw and Mike Moore led the CAA in points per game. In 2017-2018, Hofstra's five most used players did not have any transfers. In the other eight of the last nine seasons, Hofstra started at least two transfers. Tareq Coburn is an active transfer to Hofstra. The seasons of outgoing transfers was when Chaz Williams and Halil Kanacevic were Hofstra's second and third leading scorers as freshmen in 2009-2010 and transferred. Williams is on the NCAA's career assists leaders, and if they stayed they would have played in Charles Jenkins' senior season in 2010-2011. I don't think Hofstra had anybody leave because of the graduate transfer rule.

Jamall Robinson was a grad transfer for Hofstra a few years ago, I believe.
06-15-2019 11:44 PM
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(06-12-2019 03:21 PM)Water Boy Wrote:  It seems to me the shot clock operator would just hit the 30 second reset and hold it when the ball hits the rim, then if the offense gains possession just hit the 20-second reset button when you release the other one.

At it's simplest, that's very true, but there are a lot of casebook scenarios when the rebound isn't quite that cut and dried. Had a few officials' conferences at the women's exhibition today with Jefferson to decide the 20 vs. 30 reset.
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(06-15-2019 11:44 PM)Water Boy Wrote:  Jamall Robinson was a grad transfer for Hofstra a few years ago, I believe.
Do you mean a transfer to Hofstra or from Hofstra? Here's what he did:

2013-2014: Hofstra
2014-2015: Hofstra
2015-2016: Redshirt year
2016-2017: Hofstra
2017-2018: LIU Brooklyn

Therefore he could have been a graduate student at LIU, but including the redshirt season he was at Hofstra for four seasons. Furthermore, he scored more as a freshman than as a sophomore and junior combined.
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