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(06-04-2019 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  Both WKU and New Mexico are credible basketball schools. If McNeal is merely a veteran complementary player who can take over the ballhandling duties for Cumberland for 10-15 minutes a game, that should be just fine. He and the big guy, Sorolla, were exactly what this team needed--5th year guys to fill critical holes--and about the best that we could have hoped for with the way Brannen came in. Adding Jaevin Cumberland was a massive coup.

I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.
 
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(06-04-2019 09:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  
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(06-04-2019 01:28 PM)skyblade Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 01:20 PM)dubcat14 Wrote:  Hopefully he comes in with an understanding that he doesn't need to be a volume scorer, and what we need from the PG spot is a facilitator. We have Jarron, Jaevin and to a lesser extent Keith and hopefully Trevor to hit our outside shots. If he can model his game after our last 3 or 4 point guards with high assist/low turnover games we're in for a good season.

Yes, but historically he is a volume shooter with a bad shooting percentage and not too good assist/TO rate, I'm not holding out too much hope that he will completely change in his final season. Jarron can run the offense (and him, Jaevin or maybe Williams can bring the ball up the floor) and then we just have to hope McNeal can provide some valuable backup minutes, which seems a lot more realistic.
God how did I know this was you without even looking at the name. Do you ever give it a rest.

Dude needs his own team to coach, preferably a GCL squad nicknamed "The Heps "

He'd be an awful coach, he'd be to worried about deflections. First of all, McNeal is not a "volume" shooter. He's got 2 seasons of D1 ball under his belt, and he averaged about 6 shots in 25 minutes per game. To put that in perspective, those are Tre Scott like shooting frequencies. Second, he was a mid 30's percentage wise shooter which given a disproportionate amount of his attempts were beyond the arc did not help his stats as is often the case if a team cannot get shots (guess who has to fire at the end of the shot clock). He's a solid ft shooter in the 70's, and will not be asked to carry the scoring load. He's not being recruited as a long rang shooting guy, and he's being recruited because he's a good distributor, he's experienced with tempo, and a fairly strong defender for a pg his size. Statistics in bball can be very misleading depending on what you're surrounded with. He's here because Brannen saw him play a good deal, and know his talent from his days down in Jackson Tn.

High School: Lettered four years for head coach Damonn Fuller at South Side High School in Jackson, Tenn…. averaged 23 points, nine rebounds, eight assists and four steals per game as a senior… named a finalist for the TSSAA Class AA Mr. Basketball award… earned a spot on the Class AA All-State Team following his senior season… averaged 20 points, four rebounds and six assists as a junior while leading South Side to the Class AA state title… earned All-District honors and All-Region honors four times… finished his career with over 1,800 points, 500 assists, 300 rebounds and 200 steals… nominated for the McDonald’s High School All-American Game as a senior.


I see that the guys who spent the last several years repeating the same negative blabber and stale attempts at jokes ("DEFLECTIONS!" Good one!) are squealing and flinging their crap against the window when skyblade . . . looks at a new recruit's stats, points out his low assist-to-turnover ratio and poor shooting percentage, and predicts that he will most likely be a solid backup. THE HORROR.
 
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(06-05-2019 08:59 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  Both WKU and New Mexico are credible basketball schools. If McNeal is merely a veteran complementary player who can take over the ballhandling duties for Cumberland for 10-15 minutes a game, that should be just fine. He and the big guy, Sorolla, were exactly what this team needed--5th year guys to fill critical holes--and about the best that we could have hoped for with the way Brannen came in. Adding Jaevin Cumberland was a massive coup.

I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.

I've not seen either play at all, so your scenario is possible. I only know that Jaevin was a highly regarded grad transfer with really good numbers at a small but solid program. I'd be shocked if Jaevin is a 10-minute backup. Broome is just one example of a guy who transferred up. Many others have had better success.
 
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(06-05-2019 08:59 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  Both WKU and New Mexico are credible basketball schools. If McNeal is merely a veteran complementary player who can take over the ballhandling duties for Cumberland for 10-15 minutes a game, that should be just fine. He and the big guy, Sorolla, were exactly what this team needed--5th year guys to fill critical holes--and about the best that we could have hoped for with the way Brannen came in. Adding Jaevin Cumberland was a massive coup.

I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.

I don't think Broome and Cumberland are apples to apples. Jaevin played in a much more competitive conference on a better team, and had much better percentages. I have seen him play and do believe his skills will translate. He will likely have some issuesnon defense, and does not have the handles that Jarron has, but I believe he could be our best shooter on the team. My comparison would be Field Williams.
 
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(06-05-2019 09:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 08:59 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  Both WKU and New Mexico are credible basketball schools. If McNeal is merely a veteran complementary player who can take over the ballhandling duties for Cumberland for 10-15 minutes a game, that should be just fine. He and the big guy, Sorolla, were exactly what this team needed--5th year guys to fill critical holes--and about the best that we could have hoped for with the way Brannen came in. Adding Jaevin Cumberland was a massive coup.

I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.

I don't think Broome and Cumberland are apples to apples. Jaevin played in a much more competitive conference on a better team, and had much better percentages. I have seen him play and do believe his skills will translate. He will likely have some issuesnon defense, and does not have the handles that Jarron has, but I believe he could be our best shooter on the team. My comparison would be Field Williams.

If Jaevin can have a senior year similar to Field Williams, I think this team will be pretty damn good.
 
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(06-05-2019 09:08 AM)levydl Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 09:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 09:03 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  
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(06-04-2019 01:28 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Yes, but historically he is a volume shooter with a bad shooting percentage and not too good assist/TO rate, I'm not holding out too much hope that he will completely change in his final season. Jarron can run the offense (and him, Jaevin or maybe Williams can bring the ball up the floor) and then we just have to hope McNeal can provide some valuable backup minutes, which seems a lot more realistic.
God how did I know this was you without even looking at the name. Do you ever give it a rest.

Dude needs his own team to coach, preferably a GCL squad nicknamed "The Heps "

He'd be an awful coach, he'd be to worried about deflections. First of all, McNeal is not a "volume" shooter. He's got 2 seasons of D1 ball under his belt, and he averaged about 6 shots in 25 minutes per game. To put that in perspective, those are Tre Scott like shooting frequencies. Second, he was a mid 30's percentage wise shooter which given a disproportionate amount of his attempts were beyond the arc did not help his stats as is often the case if a team cannot get shots (guess who has to fire at the end of the shot clock). He's a solid ft shooter in the 70's, and will not be asked to carry the scoring load. He's not being recruited as a long rang shooting guy, and he's being recruited because he's a good distributor, he's experienced with tempo, and a fairly strong defender for a pg his size. Statistics in bball can be very misleading depending on what you're surrounded with. He's here because Brannen saw him play a good deal, and know his talent from his days down in Jackson Tn.

High School: Lettered four years for head coach Damonn Fuller at South Side High School in Jackson, Tenn…. averaged 23 points, nine rebounds, eight assists and four steals per game as a senior… named a finalist for the TSSAA Class AA Mr. Basketball award… earned a spot on the Class AA All-State Team following his senior season… averaged 20 points, four rebounds and six assists as a junior while leading South Side to the Class AA state title… earned All-District honors and All-Region honors four times… finished his career with over 1,800 points, 500 assists, 300 rebounds and 200 steals… nominated for the McDonald’s High School All-American Game as a senior.


I see that the guys who spent the last several years repeating the same negative blabber and stale attempts at jokes ("DEFLECTIONS!" Good one!) are squealing and flinging their crap against the window when skyblade . . . looks at a new recruit's stats, points out his low assist-to-turnover ratio and poor shooting percentage, and predicts that he will most likely be a solid backup. THE HORROR.

You confuse fair comment with tendentious online pedantry.
 
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Honestly Broome was just a poor fit for Cronin's system. The slower paced half court game helps players with size and physicality and clogs the lane for speed guys who want to use their quickness to penetrate the defense. I think Broome was a far more talented player than he showed here and would easily be a 15 PPG guy under Brannen.
 
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RE: McNeal
(06-05-2019 09:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 08:59 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  Both WKU and New Mexico are credible basketball schools. If McNeal is merely a veteran complementary player who can take over the ballhandling duties for Cumberland for 10-15 minutes a game, that should be just fine. He and the big guy, Sorolla, were exactly what this team needed--5th year guys to fill critical holes--and about the best that we could have hoped for with the way Brannen came in. Adding Jaevin Cumberland was a massive coup.

I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.

I don't think Broome and Cumberland are apples to apples. Jaevin played in a much more competitive conference on a better team, and had much better percentages. I have seen him play and do believe his skills will translate. He will likely have some issuesnon defense, and does not have the handles that Jarron has, but I believe he could be our best shooter on the team. My comparison would be Field Williams.

I never saw Field Williams play but looking him up on sports reference, he had almost identical shot percentages to Jaevin's at Oakland - 40% from trey and 85%-86% from the charity stripe. The 11.9ppg his senior year is right about where i'd put Jaevin too. Not sure how much we can expect Jaevin to handle the ball but both player's A/T ratio is 2:1. Pretty solid comparison strictly looking at numbers.
 
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(06-05-2019 08:59 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  Both WKU and New Mexico are credible basketball schools. If McNeal is merely a veteran complementary player who can take over the ballhandling duties for Cumberland for 10-15 minutes a game, that should be just fine. He and the big guy, Sorolla, were exactly what this team needed--5th year guys to fill critical holes--and about the best that we could have hoped for with the way Brannen came in. Adding Jaevin Cumberland was a massive coup.

I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.

I was with you until you said McNeal is a proven commodity on offense. It's fair to not be convinced by Jaevin. I think Jaevin's game transfers well because he is an excellent 3-point shooter. He had 273 attempts last year and made 40% of them. He will be a guy the defense has to pay attention to and that will give more room for Jarron to work. Broome relied more on getting to the hoop and that was more difficult against bigger/stronger guys at UC's level. But an open three is an open three at any level.

If McNeal is a proven commodity, why did he transfer to Tennessee Tech? His assist/TO ratio is worse than Jaevin's and comparing his 3-point shooting to Broome's doesn't convince me of much. Broome was a below average 3-point shooter, his ability to create was the value he provided. McNeal is also a below average 3-point shooter and shot worse than Broome from three against NCAA tournament teams, but shot a lot more threes per 40 minutes (8.8 per 40 to Broome's 5.4 per 40). Even at the lower levels, he doesn't seem to have the ability to get to the hoop that Broome did (he had 4.7 2 point attempts per 40 compared to Broome's 8.0 per 40).
 
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(06-05-2019 09:23 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 09:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 08:59 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  Both WKU and New Mexico are credible basketball schools. If McNeal is merely a veteran complementary player who can take over the ballhandling duties for Cumberland for 10-15 minutes a game, that should be just fine. He and the big guy, Sorolla, were exactly what this team needed--5th year guys to fill critical holes--and about the best that we could have hoped for with the way Brannen came in. Adding Jaevin Cumberland was a massive coup.

I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.

I don't think Broome and Cumberland are apples to apples. Jaevin played in a much more competitive conference on a better team, and had much better percentages. I have seen him play and do believe his skills will translate. He will likely have some issuesnon defense, and does not have the handles that Jarron has, but I believe he could be our best shooter on the team. My comparison would be Field Williams.

If Jaevin can have a senior year similar to Field Williams, I think this team will be pretty damn good.

For some perspective on Jaevin, Field never even attempted 100 3's in a single season, Jenifer attempted 135 as a senior. Jaevin hoisted up 273 last year!! and made 40% of them. You have to go back to Durden's senior year to find more 3pt attempts.
 
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(06-05-2019 09:40 AM)Teakwood Wrote:  
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(06-05-2019 08:59 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  Both WKU and New Mexico are credible basketball schools. If McNeal is merely a veteran complementary player who can take over the ballhandling duties for Cumberland for 10-15 minutes a game, that should be just fine. He and the big guy, Sorolla, were exactly what this team needed--5th year guys to fill critical holes--and about the best that we could have hoped for with the way Brannen came in. Adding Jaevin Cumberland was a massive coup.

I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.

I don't think Broome and Cumberland are apples to apples. Jaevin played in a much more competitive conference on a better team, and had much better percentages. I have seen him play and do believe his skills will translate. He will likely have some issuesnon defense, and does not have the handles that Jarron has, but I believe he could be our best shooter on the team. My comparison would be Field Williams.

If Jaevin can have a senior year similar to Field Williams, I think this team will be pretty damn good.

For some perspective on Jaevin, Field never even attempted 100 3's in a single season, Jenifer attempted 135 as a senior. Jaevin hoisted up 273 last year!! and made 40% of them. You have to go back to Durden's senior year to find more 3pt attempts.

i don't really remember field as a ball handler either. can't believe he didn't hoist up more than 100 treys his senior year
 
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(06-05-2019 09:45 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 09:40 AM)Teakwood Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 09:23 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 09:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 08:59 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  I'm not convinced Jaevin starts over McNeal. Sure, Jaevin might be an above-average starter. But he might also be a 10-minute/game backup.

After seeing how Cane Broome's 23 pts/3 assists/5 rebounds a game as a sophomore translated to UC, I'm not convinced by Jaevin's 17 pts/3.5 assists/3 rebounds game as a junior. Also Broome was a star within his first month, and Jaevin barely played until his Jr year.

McNeal, on the other hand, is a proven commodity on offense. He scored 9.5 pts/game as a sophomore, and 6.5 pts/game against NCAA tourney teams. That's about the same as Broome's senior year at UC (Broome was 7.5 against NCAA teams with 29 % 3 pt shooting). My main questions about McNeal are his defense and how much he's grown.

I don't think Broome and Cumberland are apples to apples. Jaevin played in a much more competitive conference on a better team, and had much better percentages. I have seen him play and do believe his skills will translate. He will likely have some issuesnon defense, and does not have the handles that Jarron has, but I believe he could be our best shooter on the team. My comparison would be Field Williams.

If Jaevin can have a senior year similar to Field Williams, I think this team will be pretty damn good.

For some perspective on Jaevin, Field never even attempted 100 3's in a single season, Jenifer attempted 135 as a senior. Jaevin hoisted up 273 last year!! and made 40% of them. You have to go back to Durden's senior year to find more 3pt attempts.

i don't really remember field as a ball handler either. can't believe he didn't hoist up more than 100 treys his senior year

Maybe he would in today's game. 15 years ago the 3-ball was definitely not as prolific.
 
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Field attempted 206 threes his senior year, 247 his junior, 137 his sophomore, and 64 as a freshman.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...ams-1.html
 
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(06-05-2019 09:53 AM)levydl Wrote:  Field attempted 206 threes his senior year, 247 his junior, 137 his sophomore, and 64 as a freshman.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...ams-1.html

Thanks I knew he had to be wrong.
 
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(06-05-2019 09:08 AM)levydl Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 09:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 09:03 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  
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(06-04-2019 01:28 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Yes, but historically he is a volume shooter with a bad shooting percentage and not too good assist/TO rate, I'm not holding out too much hope that he will completely change in his final season. Jarron can run the offense (and him, Jaevin or maybe Williams can bring the ball up the floor) and then we just have to hope McNeal can provide some valuable backup minutes, which seems a lot more realistic.
God how did I know this was you without even looking at the name. Do you ever give it a rest.

Dude needs his own team to coach, preferably a GCL squad nicknamed "The Heps "

He'd be an awful coach, he'd be to worried about deflections. First of all, McNeal is not a "volume" shooter. He's got 2 seasons of D1 ball under his belt, and he averaged about 6 shots in 25 minutes per game. To put that in perspective, those are Tre Scott like shooting frequencies. Second, he was a mid 30's percentage wise shooter which given a disproportionate amount of his attempts were beyond the arc did not help his stats as is often the case if a team cannot get shots (guess who has to fire at the end of the shot clock). He's a solid ft shooter in the 70's, and will not be asked to carry the scoring load. He's not being recruited as a long rang shooting guy, and he's being recruited because he's a good distributor, he's experienced with tempo, and a fairly strong defender for a pg his size. Statistics in bball can be very misleading depending on what you're surrounded with. He's here because Brannen saw him play a good deal, and know his talent from his days down in Jackson Tn.

High School: Lettered four years for head coach Damonn Fuller at South Side High School in Jackson, Tenn…. averaged 23 points, nine rebounds, eight assists and four steals per game as a senior… named a finalist for the TSSAA Class AA Mr. Basketball award… earned a spot on the Class AA All-State Team following his senior season… averaged 20 points, four rebounds and six assists as a junior while leading South Side to the Class AA state title… earned All-District honors and All-Region honors four times… finished his career with over 1,800 points, 500 assists, 300 rebounds and 200 steals… nominated for the McDonald’s High School All-American Game as a senior.


I see that the guys who spent the last several years repeating the same negative blabber and stale attempts at jokes ("DEFLECTIONS!" Good one!) are squealing and flinging their crap against the window when skyblade . . . looks at a new recruit's stats, points out his low assist-to-turnover ratio and poor shooting percentage, and predicts that he will most likely be a solid backup. THE HORROR.
Are you including me in this comment? Maybe you have me mistaken with some other poster. Anyway I never even noticed hepblades post until Cronin was gone. The constant harping on CJB and the recruits he is pulling in last minute get old. Comparing what he is doing in 3 months to 13 years of Mick is lunacy. You don’t need a private school education to understand the fallacy of his logic.

I dont understand why you keep rushing to his defense.
 
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(06-05-2019 11:50 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 09:08 AM)levydl Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 09:32 PM)dsquare Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 09:03 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 08:02 PM)@ES Trader Wrote:  God how did I know this was you without even looking at the name. Do you ever give it a rest.

Dude needs his own team to coach, preferably a GCL squad nicknamed "The Heps "

He'd be an awful coach, he'd be to worried about deflections. First of all, McNeal is not a "volume" shooter. He's got 2 seasons of D1 ball under his belt, and he averaged about 6 shots in 25 minutes per game. To put that in perspective, those are Tre Scott like shooting frequencies. Second, he was a mid 30's percentage wise shooter which given a disproportionate amount of his attempts were beyond the arc did not help his stats as is often the case if a team cannot get shots (guess who has to fire at the end of the shot clock). He's a solid ft shooter in the 70's, and will not be asked to carry the scoring load. He's not being recruited as a long rang shooting guy, and he's being recruited because he's a good distributor, he's experienced with tempo, and a fairly strong defender for a pg his size. Statistics in bball can be very misleading depending on what you're surrounded with. He's here because Brannen saw him play a good deal, and know his talent from his days down in Jackson Tn.

High School: Lettered four years for head coach Damonn Fuller at South Side High School in Jackson, Tenn…. averaged 23 points, nine rebounds, eight assists and four steals per game as a senior… named a finalist for the TSSAA Class AA Mr. Basketball award… earned a spot on the Class AA All-State Team following his senior season… averaged 20 points, four rebounds and six assists as a junior while leading South Side to the Class AA state title… earned All-District honors and All-Region honors four times… finished his career with over 1,800 points, 500 assists, 300 rebounds and 200 steals… nominated for the McDonald’s High School All-American Game as a senior.


I see that the guys who spent the last several years repeating the same negative blabber and stale attempts at jokes ("DEFLECTIONS!" Good one!) are squealing and flinging their crap against the window when skyblade . . . looks at a new recruit's stats, points out his low assist-to-turnover ratio and poor shooting percentage, and predicts that he will most likely be a solid backup. THE HORROR.
Are you including me in this comment? Maybe you have me mistaken with some other poster. Anyway I never even noticed hepblades post until Cronin was gone. The constant harping on CJB and the recruits he is pulling in last minute get old. Comparing what he is doing in 3 months to 13 years of Mick is lunacy. You don’t need a private school education to understand the fallacy of his logic.

I dont understand why you keep rushing to his defense.

Hepblade rushes to Micky's defense because its his dad. No idea why Levydl does. Maybe he is Micky's brother?
 
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Look, this is going to be Jarron's... and to some extent, Tre Scott's team.

Everyone else is going to be interchangeable parts.
 
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(06-05-2019 11:41 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 09:53 AM)levydl Wrote:  Field attempted 206 threes his senior year, 247 his junior, 137 his sophomore, and 64 as a freshman.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...ams-1.html

Thanks I knew he had to be wrong.

My bad...wrong column. I accidentally looked at his made 3's...still not as many attempts as Jaevin, which still takes you all the way back to Durden. Point being this type of player that seeks out 3's and (accurately) pulls the trigger without conscience have been few and far between. He will be fun to watch.
 
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Someone's gonna call these guys stiffs before we even play OSU
 
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(06-05-2019 12:08 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Someone's gonna call these guys stiffs before we even play OSU

not me...Micky is gone. Brannen doesn't recruit or coach stiffs.
 
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