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Jim Delany botched the 2010-2013 Big Ten Expansion
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RE: Jim Delany botched the 2010-2013 Big Ten Expansion
(Yesterday 10:10 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(Yesterday 09:56 PM)ArQ Wrote:  
(Yesterday 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  ... The 18 you covered pretty well. Also everyone already knows if we expand at all we move to 9 conference games. So even with two 8 school divisions you would play your 7 division mates and rotate 2 from the other side annually so that everyone is played in 4 years.

At 18:
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech

The only school that might gripe would be Ole Miss. Their rivalry with L.S.U. is their biggy. MSU could be scheduled OOC. That pretty well solves the rivalry thing.

Also when this happened, Big 10 is further weakened more. Penn State and Maryland want to jump ship. So ACC adds Penn State, Maryland, Notre Dame and UConn.

Big 10 loses two so they have to add six. Big 10 will add Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, West Virginia, North Dakota State and South Dakota. They probably will drop the island Rutgers and add North Dakota because now North Dakota and South Dakota are oil rich and Rutgers is useless as usual.

This is slightly inaccurate. The ACC adds Ohio State instead of UConn.

Except That School Up North at this time is 24th in the World on the Shanghai list and Ohio State is 98th, so the ACC takes That School Up North.

But, yeah, under the premise that the Big Ten is open for raiding by the ACC, it's Notre Dame and three Big Ten schools, not Notre Dame, two Big Ten Schools and UConn.
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RE: Jim Delany botched the 2010-2013 Big Ten Expansion
(Yesterday 07:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(Yesterday 06:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(Yesterday 05:53 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the SEC has the stomach to go to 18 and can devise a practical way to manage a league of that size then the next realignment round will be fairly simple: the Texlahoma 4 to the SEC and they will roll in piles and piles of money.

If they don't have that appetite then it will be a chess match between the SEC and Big Ten for the big prizes.

Unless the SEC makes the first move on them the ACC is safe, barring a ND change of heart. The Big Ten knows that if they destabilized the ACC the schools they would get would be far less valuable than the ones the SEC could extract.

Texlahoma 4 to the PAC 12 is not on the table and there's no one else out there that the Left Coasters would want so they will stand pat.

Divisions wouldn't work in the SEC with 18. To many cross-division rivalries. Maybe you could do a 5-4-4-5 where the "4" groups rotate between east and west every other year. UK/TN/Vandy/UGA/UF would be a "5" and AL/AU/MS/MSU as a "4." South Carolina would have to be in a "4" with 2 or 3 new eastern teams. LSU/A&M/AR and MU or 2 new schools would be in a "5."

There would be 8 division games, leaving just one to schedule outside the division, so the 10 original members would have to be set up to play each other frequently (or at least 9 with LSU getting the AL/MS schools frequently).

Its hard to do 16 also in the SEC.

I dunno, this SEC-18 works out decently.

East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Central: Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, Ole Miss
West: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech

Protected crossovers: Alabama/Tennessee, Auburn/Georgia

Maybe swap Arkansas and Missouri.

You should swap Missouri and Texas A&M. A&M has shown a clear desire to be aligned with the traditional SEC schools. Missouri probably would prefer to be grouped with it's old Big 12 pals. Arkansas also fits geographically in the west, and has history in the SWC.
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