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(06-05-2019 03:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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(06-04-2019 04:47 PM)JRsec Wrote:  And one other thing, if Alabama and Auburn were worried about Big 10 payouts and needed alcohol sales (less than a million at most schools who do it) why did they both immediately announce that there would be no alcohol sales at Bryant Denny and Jordan Hare?

I never said Auburn and Alabama specifically were worried about the B1G payouts.

The overturning of the conference ban allows members who *do* want to make more money, for any reason, to do so. You pooh-pooh the amount of money involved, but money surely had to be the motivation for overturning the ban, as there is no other plausible reason for wanting to do so.
Yes there is another reason, it's the reason this discussion has been on the docket for several years already. The Fans want the same privilege as has been afforded the sky boxes. Alcohol has been served in the corporate sky boxes since their inception. Joe average fan may not be able to have a martini in Section 50, Row 14, Seat 10 but they can have a beer. It is symbolically a step toward not have so very many perks in the sky boxes that the average fan can't have.

That's a good point, but IMO it is a point for a school *not* to lift the ban. If I were an AD or campus administrator, I'd be much more interested in selling those extremely high-price sky boxes, and the alcohol exclusivity would be a selling point, a point of distinction. I'd rather put up with the resentment of the "average Joe" who wants a beer than take away a selling point for boxes. Rich people who shell out big bucks do so because they *want* to be treated differently, and better, than the great mass of people. They are paying more for that privilege.

We have a waiting line on sky boxes. Selling one is not a problem.

That's great news. But even in the SEC, not every school might be so lucky. That's why different schools might have different policies. 04-cheers
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(06-05-2019 03:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Booze sales are legal in Morgantown.


In the football stadium? By WVU fans?

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So what they thought throwing D cells was too tame?

West Virginia has been on board for about 6-7 years now and by all accounts it’s improved the situation there
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(06-05-2019 06:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(06-05-2019 02:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 01:47 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 08:22 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I never said Auburn and Alabama specifically were worried about the B1G payouts.

The overturning of the conference ban allows members who *do* want to make more money, for any reason, to do so. You pooh-pooh the amount of money involved, but money surely had to be the motivation for overturning the ban, as there is no other plausible reason for wanting to do so.
Yes there is another reason, it's the reason this discussion has been on the docket for several years already. The Fans want the same privilege as has been afforded the sky boxes. Alcohol has been served in the corporate sky boxes since their inception. Joe average fan may not be able to have a martini in Section 50, Row 14, Seat 10 but they can have a beer. It is symbolically a step toward not have so very many perks in the sky boxes that the average fan can't have.

That's a good point, but IMO it is a point for a school *not* to lift the ban. If I were an AD or campus administrator, I'd be much more interested in selling those extremely high-price sky boxes, and the alcohol exclusivity would be a selling point, a point of distinction. I'd rather put up with the resentment of the "average Joe" who wants a beer than take away a selling point for boxes. Rich people who shell out big bucks do so because they *want* to be treated differently, and better, than the great mass of people. They are paying more for that privilege.

We have a waiting line on sky boxes. Selling one is not a problem.

That's great news. But even in the SEC, not every school might be so lucky. That's why different schools might have different policies. 04-cheers

I don't know of any problems anywhere selling sky boxes in the SEC. You've been off base from the start and still are. Alcohol sales had zero to do with the Big 10. Zero.
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(06-05-2019 09:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I don't know of any problems anywhere selling sky boxes in the SEC. You've been off base from the start and still are. Alcohol sales had zero to do with the Big 10. Zero.

Even if a school has sold all its boxes, it could fear that allowing the "masses" to buy alcohol could take away a perk that helps sell those boxes. Obviously, different schools have different issues to address, which is why some will lift their bans while others will not.

In any event, there's zero way you know *for sure* that the B1G situation didn't influence this decision. So there's no sense in acting like you are speaking factually and I am making stuff up or trolling. It's just an opinion. 07-coffee3
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(06-05-2019 08:54 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  West Virginia has been on board for about 6-7 years now and by all accounts it’s improved the situation there


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Texas A&M is the first to officially jump on board, per McMurphy

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...78688?s=20
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(06-06-2019 09:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 09:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I don't know of any problems anywhere selling sky boxes in the SEC. You've been off base from the start and still are. Alcohol sales had zero to do with the Big 10. Zero.

Even if a school has sold all its boxes, it could fear that allowing the "masses" to buy alcohol could take away a perk that helps sell those boxes. Obviously, different schools have different issues to address, which is why some will lift their bans while others will not.

In any event, there's zero way you know *for sure* that the B1G situation didn't influence this decision. So there's no sense in acting like you are speaking factually and I am making stuff up or trolling. It's just an opinion. 07-coffee3

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Quote:Tennessee is one step closer to offering beer to fans attending games at Neyland Stadium and other Volunteers sports venues this fall.

Blake Stevens of WATE 6 News in Knoxville broke the news Tuesday evening that the Knoxville Beer Board granted a beer permit to Aramark, University of Tennessee-Knoxville’s food and beverage vendor, to serve beer at Neyland Stadium, Thompson-Boiling Arena and Regal Soccer Stadium.

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(06-13-2019 12:56 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Texas A&M is the first to officially jump on board, per McMurphy

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...78688?s=20

And South Carolina has decided not to allow it. What happened?
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(07-16-2019 11:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-13-2019 12:56 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Texas A&M is the first to officially jump on board, per McMurphy

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...78688?s=20

And South Carolina has decided not to allow it. What happened?

Ray Tanner, our AD, is a likable enough guy but he is definitely a reactionary AD for sure. We also do not currently have a president so I imagine he wants the president/BOT to have input on that.

It’s very frustrating because he basically came out and acted like alcohol is some kind of new phenomenon that no one had ever sold before and that we needed to do more planning before we could implement. He did at least seem open to it and left open the possibility for selling at basketball/baseball this year. My guess is we wait until 2020
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(07-17-2019 05:59 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-16-2019 11:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-13-2019 12:56 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Texas A&M is the first to officially jump on board, per McMurphy

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...78688?s=20

And South Carolina has decided not to allow it. What happened?

Ray Tanner, our AD, is a likable enough guy but he is definitely a reactionary AD for sure. We also do not currently have a president so I imagine he wants the president/BOT to have input on that.

It’s very frustrating because he basically came out and acted like alcohol is some kind of new phenomenon that no one had ever sold before and that we needed to do more planning before we could implement. He did at least seem open to it and left open the possibility for selling at basketball/baseball this year. My guess is we wait until 2020

Sounds more like trouble with particular donors to me.
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(07-17-2019 01:52 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-17-2019 05:59 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-16-2019 11:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-13-2019 12:56 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Texas A&M is the first to officially jump on board, per McMurphy

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...78688?s=20

And South Carolina has decided not to allow it. What happened?

Ray Tanner, our AD, is a likable enough guy but he is definitely a reactionary AD for sure. We also do not currently have a president so I imagine he wants the president/BOT to have input on that.

It’s very frustrating because he basically came out and acted like alcohol is some kind of new phenomenon that no one had ever sold before and that we needed to do more planning before we could implement. He did at least seem open to it and left open the possibility for selling at basketball/baseball this year. My guess is we wait until 2020

Sounds more like trouble with particular donors to me.

I'm sure that's part of it, but I'm mostly chalking it up to his incompetence. Like I said, nice guy but he isn't the brightest bulb. I'd bet a large amount of money that he's just going to wait until 8-10 other schools do it first and then we'll just copy their models.

For me though, this year has always been about getting the SEC to relax it's rules and then getting a few schools on board. Right now we got LSU and A&M selling, Tennessee just got it's beer license approved today (school decision is still pending), and at least Arkansas and Ole Miss that are leaning towards sales this year. Give me those 5 in 2019 and hopefully it's enough to start an avalanche in 2020.
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(06-01-2019 12:44 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  No big deal until



Now that's worth going to a baseball game.
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Quote:LSU's Tiger Stadium is widely regarded as one of the loudest and most intimidating venues in college football. And "Death Valley" is about to get even more intimidating in 2019. The school announced on Thursday that beer and wine will be sold inside general seating areas to fans ages 21 and over in 2019.

"This is all about enhancing the fan experience, responding to the feedback from our fans and doing it responsibly," LSU athletic director Scott Woodward said. "It's a big addition to our events and we believe it will be a positive one overall, but we are going about it with the appropriate mindset and thorough planning."

If you're thinking that the student section is about to get even rowdier because of the new policy, think again. Concession stands near the student section will not be permitted to sell beer and wine.

The announcement comes two months after the SEC voted to lift its ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages in areas outside of premium seating. The SEC policy mandates that alcohol can be available at designated stationary locations, which means that it can't be sold by vendors in seating areas. All fans will have to adhere to a fan code of conduct, and service will be cut off at the end of the third quarter.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ll-season/


Could someone make a list on which schools have publicly announced alcohol sales?
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Quote:LSU's Tiger Stadium is widely regarded as one of the loudest and most intimidating venues in college football. And "Death Valley" is about to get even more intimidating in 2019. The school announced on Thursday that beer and wine will be sold inside general seating areas to fans ages 21 and over in 2019.

"This is all about enhancing the fan experience, responding to the feedback from our fans and doing it responsibly," LSU athletic director Scott Woodward said. "It's a big addition to our events and we believe it will be a positive one overall, but we are going about it with the appropriate mindset and thorough planning."

If you're thinking that the student section is about to get even rowdier because of the new policy, think again. Concession stands near the student section will not be permitted to sell beer and wine.

The announcement comes two months after the SEC voted to lift its ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages in areas outside of premium seating. The SEC policy mandates that alcohol can be available at designated stationary locations, which means that it can't be sold by vendors in seating areas. All fans will have to adhere to a fan code of conduct, and service will be cut off at the end of the third quarter.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ll-season/


Could someone make a list on which schools have publicly announced alcohol sales?

As far as I can tell

Yes: LSU, A&M

Undecided: Missouri (last I saw they were trying to get everything in place for this year), Arkansas (no word since initial positive press release), Ole Miss (AD isn’t optimistic it will happen by fall), Vandy (unlikely), UT(most likely if the bunch and the county did grant them a beer license)

No: SC, Florida, UGA, UK, Miss St, Auburn, Alabama
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(07-26-2019 06:06 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 11:34 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  
Quote:LSU's Tiger Stadium is widely regarded as one of the loudest and most intimidating venues in college football. And "Death Valley" is about to get even more intimidating in 2019. The school announced on Thursday that beer and wine will be sold inside general seating areas to fans ages 21 and over in 2019.

"This is all about enhancing the fan experience, responding to the feedback from our fans and doing it responsibly," LSU athletic director Scott Woodward said. "It's a big addition to our events and we believe it will be a positive one overall, but we are going about it with the appropriate mindset and thorough planning."

If you're thinking that the student section is about to get even rowdier because of the new policy, think again. Concession stands near the student section will not be permitted to sell beer and wine.

The announcement comes two months after the SEC voted to lift its ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages in areas outside of premium seating. The SEC policy mandates that alcohol can be available at designated stationary locations, which means that it can't be sold by vendors in seating areas. All fans will have to adhere to a fan code of conduct, and service will be cut off at the end of the third quarter.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ll-season/


Could someone make a list on which schools have publicly announced alcohol sales?

As far as I can tell

Yes: LSU, A&M

Undecided: Missouri (last I saw they were trying to get everything in place for this year), Arkansas (no word since initial positive press release), Ole Miss (AD isn’t optimistic it will happen by fall), Vandy (unlikely), UT(most likely if the bunch and the county did grant them a beer license)

No: SC, Florida, UGA, UK, Miss St, Auburn, Alabama

If anything should prove to Quo just how little the SEC is concerned with using alcohol sales to offset Big 10 revenue then this should illustrate it in spades. The question of alcohol sales has been bubbling on the back burner long before the Big 10 signed their FOX deal and now that they have decided to let the schools determine whether to sell beer/wine at games we've had a whopping 2 schools to utilize their freedom in this regard and surprise surprise L.S.U. is one of them.

It wasn't exactly a burning issue. It was more of a Baptist compliance issue in states where Southern Baptists make up the majority of voters.

I think when all have decided that we might have as many as 5 selling it. The hypocrisy here is that all of the campuses have tolerated it at tailgating. The seriousness of it is that most of the campuses have been relieved that game time provided them 3 hours for most to sober up a bit before driving home. So aside from the Southern Baptist question, the real issue may be the 3 hours to sober up that they don't want to give up.

For those not acquainted with the South's alcohol hypocrisy I offer you this old joke. "Do you know the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist in the South?" "The Methodist will speak to you in the Liquor Store"

The long term issue with alcohol sales at the venues is going to be one of liability. The issue might well become not how much you have allowed the fan to drink during the game, but how much did the fan add to the level he/she drank before the game.
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I agree and I definitely don’t think it was a big revenue issue - it was much more about catering to fan demand and improving the stadium experience

My guess for this year is no more than 3-4. In 2020 I expect all but 3-4
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(07-26-2019 06:06 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 11:34 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  
Quote:LSU's Tiger Stadium is widely regarded as one of the loudest and most intimidating venues in college football. And "Death Valley" is about to get even more intimidating in 2019. The school announced on Thursday that beer and wine will be sold inside general seating areas to fans ages 21 and over in 2019.

"This is all about enhancing the fan experience, responding to the feedback from our fans and doing it responsibly," LSU athletic director Scott Woodward said. "It's a big addition to our events and we believe it will be a positive one overall, but we are going about it with the appropriate mindset and thorough planning."

If you're thinking that the student section is about to get even rowdier because of the new policy, think again. Concession stands near the student section will not be permitted to sell beer and wine.

The announcement comes two months after the SEC voted to lift its ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages in areas outside of premium seating. The SEC policy mandates that alcohol can be available at designated stationary locations, which means that it can't be sold by vendors in seating areas. All fans will have to adhere to a fan code of conduct, and service will be cut off at the end of the third quarter.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ll-season/


Could someone make a list on which schools have publicly announced alcohol sales?

As far as I can tell

Yes: LSU, A&M

Undecided: Missouri (last I saw they were trying to get everything in place for this year), Arkansas (no word since initial positive press release), Ole Miss (AD isn’t optimistic it will happen by fall), Vandy (unlikely), UT(most likely if the bunch and the county did grant them a beer license)

No: SC, Florida, UGA, UK, Miss St, Auburn, Alabama

Looks like Mizzou is a "Yes"

Quote:Football fans will be able to buy beer and wine this football season at Memorial Stadium starting Sept. 7 at the home-opener against West Virginia.

The stadium's concession vendor, Levy, will be allowed to sell alcohol in accordance with the SEC's newly adopted regulations.

MU joins LSU, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, TCU, Illinois, Purdue, Rutgers, Kansas, Colorado, Ohio State and West Virginia and others, which are all allowed to sell alcohol in public places.

According to a news release from Mizzou Athletics, all beverages must be served in a cup, and no more than two drinks can be sold per transaction. Fans still can't bring in outside beverages. The sale of alcoholic beverages will end during the third quarter in football, as directed by SEC policy.

Not all concession stands within the stadium will sell alcohol.

https://www.columbiamissourian.com/sport...45987.html
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(06-05-2019 09:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 06:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(06-05-2019 03:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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(06-05-2019 01:47 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes there is another reason, it's the reason this discussion has been on the docket for several years already. The Fans want the same privilege as has been afforded the sky boxes. Alcohol has been served in the corporate sky boxes since their inception. Joe average fan may not be able to have a martini in Section 50, Row 14, Seat 10 but they can have a beer. It is symbolically a step toward not have so very many perks in the sky boxes that the average fan can't have.

That's a good point, but IMO it is a point for a school *not* to lift the ban. If I were an AD or campus administrator, I'd be much more interested in selling those extremely high-price sky boxes, and the alcohol exclusivity would be a selling point, a point of distinction. I'd rather put up with the resentment of the "average Joe" who wants a beer than take away a selling point for boxes. Rich people who shell out big bucks do so because they *want* to be treated differently, and better, than the great mass of people. They are paying more for that privilege.

We have a waiting line on sky boxes. Selling one is not a problem.

That's great news. But even in the SEC, not every school might be so lucky. That's why different schools might have different policies. 04-cheers

I don't know of any problems anywhere selling sky boxes in the SEC. You've been off base from the start and still are. Alcohol sales had zero to do with the Big 10. Zero.

Lol. Alcohol helps sell skyboxes. Quo. Obviously never been a skybox. Hell they aren't even hardly about football much less booze privileges. Dammit man
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Looks like we’re gonna be at 4 schools for this year. Good news and definitely more than I originally anticipated
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