(06-05-2019 11:03 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  We dropped four sports a year ago.
We're laying off teachers.
We're laying of employees across campus.
Except basketball, all the other teams have higher grade point averages.

Taking the football team to an amusement park is another PR disaster. If they're trying to create further resentment of the football team on campus, they've finally found something they're good at.

The only whiny little b**** that seems to resent the football team is you.

Put a sock in it.

Well deserved by the team......great job coach Creighton.

Are you even sure the school paid for all if it?

(06-06-2019 05:16 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Are you even sure the school paid for all if it?

Good question.

Athletic programs, such as EMU, have donor funds which can be earmarked for specific sports.

The school has wide latitude to spend those funds so long as they do not violate NCAA or other rules and regulations.

For example, some might remember in 2018 MBB made a post season tourney and we sponsored student tickets for the game. EMU raised donations for those tickets. I donated for that.

In the past, a generous donor has paid the cost to host a MBB post season home game.

These are examples of "it is the donor's money and he or she can earmark it as they sees fit..."

(06-05-2019 11:03 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  We dropped four sports a year ago.
We're laying off teachers.
We're laying of employees across campus.
Except basketball, all the other teams have higher grade point averages.

Taking the football team to an amusement park is another PR disaster. If they're trying to create further resentment of the football team on campus, they've finally found something they're good at.

The idea that you try and minimize the GPA thing by saying "all other sports are higher except for basketball" is off. Look around the country at other "top notch" football programs and tell me what their GPA as a team looks like. You wont find that many programs in division 1 football that are pulling that GPA.

I know its not a record of GPA, but our APR score has also increased since CC got here. We were essentially the bottom of division 1 football, and the latest rankings have us sitting in the mid 50's. The transformation is undeniable.

Stop being a troll.

(06-06-2019 06:28 AM)easterneagles79 Wrote:  

(06-05-2019 11:03 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  We dropped four sports a year ago.
We're laying off teachers.
We're laying of employees across campus.
Except basketball, all the other teams have higher grade point averages.

Taking the football team to an amusement park is another PR disaster. If they're trying to create further resentment of the football team on campus, they've finally found something they're good at.

The idea that you try and minimize the GPA thing by saying "all other sports are higher except for basketball" is off. Look around the country at other "top notch" football programs and tell me what their GPA as a team looks like. You wont find that many programs in division 1 football that are pulling that GPA.

I know its not a record of GPA, but our APR score has also increased since CC got here. We were essentially the bottom of division 1 football, and the latest rankings have us sitting in the mid 50's. The transformation is undeniable.

Stop being a troll.

Indeed. There are a number of FBS programs whose GPA are poor and their players are facing the law repeatedly...

We have a G5 FB program that we can be proud.

(06-05-2019 11:03 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  We dropped four sports a year ago.
We're laying off teachers.
We're laying of employees across campus.
Except basketball, all the other teams have higher grade point averages.

Taking the football team to an amusement park is another PR disaster. If they're trying to create further resentment of the football team on campus, they've finally found something they're good at.

this message board is nothing if not a place for my man here to occasionally eat buffets of crap

Cumulative GPA after Winter 2019
Women's Golf - 3.611
Women's Soccer - 3.588
Women's Gymnastics - 3.567
Women's Swimming & Diving - 3.537
Men's Cross Country - 3.499
Men's Baseball - 3.484
Women's Cross Country - 3.445
Women's Track & Field - 3.436
Men's Golf - 3.412
Women's Volleyball - 3.359
Women's Rowing - 3.258
Women's Tennis - 3.257
Men's Track & Field - 3.102
Men's Football - 3.036
Men's Basketball - 2.803
Women's Basketball - 2.786

The football program has made some nice progress, but still compares poorly to other programs at EMU.

Wasting money on roller coasters looks awfully bad when people are losing their jobs.

(06-06-2019 06:05 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 05:16 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Are you even sure the school paid for all if it?

Good question.

Athletic programs, such as EMU, have donor funds which can be earmarked for specific sports.

The school has wide latitude to spend those funds so long as they do not violate NCAA or other rules and regulations.

For example, some might remember in 2018 MBB made a post season tourney and we sponsored student tickets for the game. EMU raised donations for those tickets. I donated for that.

In the past, a generous donor has paid the cost to host a MBB post season home game.

These are examples of "it is the donor's money and he or she can earmark it as they sees fit..."

Also, can we get real with that fact this was probably less than 8k to do this? That is nothing.

Arguing with LJM is pointless. He will refuse to make the logical comparisons in proper context by comparing football GPA to other FBS football programs. He's also off his gourd over a trip that 1. He has no idea of the cost, and 2. Isn't even sure if athletics paid this cost without donor support.

Football grades are improving? LJM somehow sees that as an opportunity to knock the football program. It's pointless to argue with him. Just ignore and scroll past his posts.

(06-05-2019 11:03 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  We dropped four sports a year ago.
We're laying off teachers.
We're laying of employees across campus.
Except basketball, all the other teams have higher grade point averages.

Taking the football team to an amusement park is another PR disaster. If they're trying to create further resentment of the football team on campus, they've finally found something they're good at.

Resentment from whom? Liberal/progressive students/faculty that could give a crap about football/athletics? Whoopie.....I'm shocked.

A small group of athletes in non-revenue sports that still feel neglected? That type of jealousy is more a poor reflection of the individual and an unrealistic set of expectations.

So now we go back to people like you that cannot see that the AD made an unpopular decision that needed to happen. Or would you rather have the entire athletic program go under? Or are you one of those "let's go Div II" idiots? Or "let's permanently underfund our key programs so we'll never be competitive"?

Change is a reality, and sometime not pleasant, but we deal with it, adapt, and continue on.

(06-06-2019 07:12 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Cumulative GPA after Winter 2019
Women's Golf - 3.611
Women's Soccer - 3.588
Women's Gymnastics - 3.567
Women's Swimming & Diving - 3.537
Men's Cross Country - 3.499
Men's Baseball - 3.484
Women's Cross Country - 3.445
Women's Track & Field - 3.436
Men's Golf - 3.412
Women's Volleyball - 3.359
Women's Rowing - 3.258
Women's Tennis - 3.257
Men's Track & Field - 3.102
Men's Football - 3.036
Men's Basketball - 2.803
Women's Basketball - 2.786

The football program has made some nice progress, but still compares poorly to other programs at EMU.

Wasting money on roller coasters looks awfully bad when people are losing their jobs.

Are we dropping WBB/MBB which have the lowest GPA?

Dear Friends,
ljmhurons just doesn't understand that the layoffs would have occurred without football. The layoffs are because of decreased enrollment. Are you going to keep staff that have no classes to teach? Personally I do not like people to be laid off, but enrollment demands it.

Don't try to compare the team GPA of a team of 20 or less to that of a Football team of 80+.

(06-06-2019 10:10 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  Don't try to compare the team GPA of a team of 20 or less to that of a Football team of 80+.

And as one or two parents have posted, being a FBS college athlete is the most demanding inter-collegiate sport in D-I.

I think in many respects it is like or worse than being a NFL player when one thinks of all of the spring drills, summer drills, off season drills in Jan and Feb.

The NFLPA would never permit all of that...

(06-06-2019 09:59 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
ljmhurons just doesn't understand that the layoffs would have occurred without football. The layoffs are because of decreased enrollment. Are you going to keep staff that have no classes to teach? Personally I do not like people to be laid off, but enrollment demands it.

the state of michigan needs to increase its funding to public universities right friggin now. the issues EMU has are the same that schools across the state has. michigan has great public universities - lets keep it that way.

(06-06-2019 10:35 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 09:59 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
ljmhurons just doesn't understand that the layoffs would have occurred without football. The layoffs are because of decreased enrollment. Are you going to keep staff that have no classes to teach? Personally I do not like people to be laid off, but enrollment demands it.

the state of michigan needs to increase its funding to public universities right friggin now. the issues EMU has are the same that schools across the state has. michigan has great public universities - lets keep it that way.

Agree.

I think auto insurance, roads and education are highest priorities for the current governor.

The other big problem EMU has is a limited endowment. Schools with really large endowments can supplement funding with their return on investments.

If the ROI (return on investment) is 10% of the endowment and inflation is say 2%, then 8% net is available for discretionary purposes w/out diminishing the endowment's real value.

Colleges with say 1B endowment and makes 10% ROI then can supplement their other funds by up to 100M dollars. 100M will building an academic building, etc.

(06-04-2019 02:21 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  

(06-04-2019 01:30 PM)masttg Wrote:  

(06-04-2019 09:35 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(06-04-2019 07:04 AM)ARAlvarado13 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/TexasFootball/status...et-2-89%2F

Horns down, grades up!

And EMU's was higher than 2.89.

And wasn't EMUs 3.0 for the academic year? This 2.89 is just one semester.

Everything aint bigger in Texas I guess.

Related: Texas is hiring a new Senior Graphic Designer. https://twitter.com/JackMacCFB/status/11...6788527104

(06-06-2019 11:55 AM)ARAlvarado13 Wrote:  

(06-04-2019 02:21 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  

(06-04-2019 01:30 PM)masttg Wrote:  

(06-04-2019 09:35 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(06-04-2019 07:04 AM)ARAlvarado13 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/TexasFootball/status...et-2-89%2F

Horns down, grades up!

And EMU's was higher than 2.89.

And wasn't EMUs 3.0 for the academic year? This 2.89 is just one semester.

Everything aint bigger in Texas I guess.

Related: Texas is hiring a new Senior Graphic Designer. https://twitter.com/JackMacCFB/status/11...6788527104

And why do we care what Texas does or doesn't do?

(06-06-2019 08:58 AM)Huron Boy Wrote:  

(06-05-2019 11:03 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  We dropped four sports a year ago.
We're laying off teachers.
We're laying of employees across campus.
Except basketball, all the other teams have higher grade point averages.

Taking the football team to an amusement park is another PR disaster. If they're trying to create further resentment of the football team on campus, they've finally found something they're good at.

Resentment from whom? Liberal/progressive students/faculty that could give a crap about football/athletics? Whoopie.....I'm shocked.

A small group of athletes in non-revenue sports that still feel neglected? That type of jealousy is more a poor reflection of the individual and an unrealistic set of expectations.

So now we go back to people like you that cannot see that the AD made an unpopular decision that needed to happen. Or would you rather have the entire athletic program go under? Or are you one of those "let's go Div II" idiots? Or "let's permanently underfund our key programs so we'll never be competitive"?

Change is a reality, and sometime not pleasant, but we deal with it, adapt, and continue on.

Great post, Huron Boy! "The thermometer of success is merely the jealousy of the malcontents." -Salvador Dali

(06-06-2019 10:30 PM)EMU03 Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 08:58 AM)Huron Boy Wrote:  

(06-05-2019 11:03 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  We dropped four sports a year ago.
We're laying off teachers.
We're laying of employees across campus.
Except basketball, all the other teams have higher grade point averages.

Taking the football team to an amusement park is another PR disaster. If they're trying to create further resentment of the football team on campus, they've finally found something they're good at.

Resentment from whom? Liberal/progressive students/faculty that could give a crap about football/athletics? Whoopie.....I'm shocked.

A small group of athletes in non-revenue sports that still feel neglected? That type of jealousy is more a poor reflection of the individual and an unrealistic set of expectations.

So now we go back to people like you that cannot see that the AD made an unpopular decision that needed to happen. Or would you rather have the entire athletic program go under? Or are you one of those "let's go Div II" idiots? Or "let's permanently underfund our key programs so we'll never be competitive"?

Change is a reality, and sometime not pleasant, but we deal with it, adapt, and continue on.

Great post, Huron Boy! "The thermometer of success is merely the jealousy of the malcontents." -Salvador Dali

Why take the football team to an amusement park for doing something routinely accomplished by our other teams? And why spend a single penny on such frivolous activity when people are being asked to leave? It's wrong.