https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch...th-penalty

"New Hampshire lawmakers on Thursday voted to outlaw the death penalty in the Granite State, overriding a veto of a bill by Gov. Chris Sununu ®.

The new law, which takes effect immediately, means that capital punishment will be repealed throughout New England.

Veto overrides require a two-thirds majority, which the state Senate accomplished with its 16-8 vote on Thursday, according to The Associated Press. The state House voted to override the veto last week...."

I think we will see a lot of blue and purple states abolish the death penalty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_pu...ted_States

Wiki has a couple of good maps on the status.

(05-30-2019 03:39 PM)bullet Wrote:  I think we will see a lot of blue and purple states abolish the death penalty.

Some maybe.. a lot? Ehh.. not so sure about that.

Good.

Studies have found that 4% of inmates on death row are actually innocent. So out of every 25 executions, we're putting to death one innocent person.

Also, the death penalty costs taxpayers more than had they just served life in person.

It also has been found that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent to crime whatsoever.

Does NH allow abortion?

My cognitive dissonance is showing.

(05-30-2019 04:46 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Good.

Studies have found that 4% of inmates on death row are actually innocent. So out of every 25 executions, we're putting to death one innocent person.

Also, the death penalty costs taxpayers more than had they just served life in person.

It also has been found that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent to crime whatsoever.

Link?

(05-30-2019 04:46 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Good.

Studies have found that 4% of inmates on death row are actually innocent. So out of every 25 executions, we're putting to death one innocent person.

Also, the death penalty costs taxpayers more than had they just served life in person.

It also has been found that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent to crime whatsoever.

I get the math but I do not think that is accurate. Those on death row have a significantly higher rate of due diligence trials and appeals. Those decisions come with a lot of extra scrutiny before they put them to death.

I am not saying that an innocent person has never been put to death by death penalty ruling, but that 4% figure is high IMO.

(05-30-2019 05:31 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(05-30-2019 04:46 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Good.

Studies have found that 4% of inmates on death row are actually innocent. So out of every 25 executions, we're putting to death one innocent person. {1}

Also, the death penalty costs taxpayers more than had they just served life in person. {2}

It also has been found that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent to crime whatsoever. {3}

Link?

{1} https://www.pnas.org/content/111/20/7230
{2a}https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphilli...c28750664b
{2b}https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/UR...5247-2.pdf
{3}https://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/teachi...Lpaper.pdf

(05-31-2019 08:01 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(05-30-2019 04:46 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Good.

Studies have found that 4% of inmates on death row are actually innocent. So out of every 25 executions, we're putting to death one innocent person.

Also, the death penalty costs taxpayers more than had they just served life in person.

It also has been found that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent to crime whatsoever.

I get the math but I do not think that is accurate. Those on death row have a significantly higher rate of due diligence trials and appeals. Those decisions come with a lot of extra scrutiny before they put them to death.

I am not saying that an innocent person has never been put to death by death penalty ruling, but that 4% figure is high IMO.

What percent of innocent people is acceptable to put to death?

1 in 50?

1 in 100?

(05-31-2019 08:32 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(05-31-2019 08:01 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(05-30-2019 04:46 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Good.

Studies have found that 4% of inmates on death row are actually innocent. So out of every 25 executions, we're putting to death one innocent person.

Also, the death penalty costs taxpayers more than had they just served life in person.

It also has been found that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent to crime whatsoever.

I get the math but I do not think that is accurate. Those on death row have a significantly higher rate of due diligence trials and appeals. Those decisions come with a lot of extra scrutiny before they put them to death.

I am not saying that an innocent person has never been put to death by death penalty ruling, but that 4% figure is high IMO.

What percent of innocent people is acceptable to put to death?

1 in 50?

1 in 100?

Zero.

Now, how many innocent people on the streets are acceptable to be killed when someone who should have been put to death wasnt, escaped, and went on a killing spree?

So, a man murders your wife. Not only has he impacted your life but if you have kids it impacts their lives, they no longer have a mother. Grandkids maybe? Same thing, their grandmother is no longer there for them. What if your wife is a teacher whose students absolutely love her and are inspired by her? She's gone, too bad kids. You see how far this can reach, right? Untold numbers of ways. But hey, the murderous scumbag who did it is still breathing the same oxygen that the rest of us good people are. He's still eating every single day. He still gets to have hope that he'll get out. Yeah, that's completely fair.

I'm fine with states deciding what they want to do. Same with the abortion

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(05-30-2019 04:46 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Good.

Studies have found that 4% of inmates on death row are actually innocent. So out of every 25 executions, we're putting to death one innocent person.

Also, the death penalty costs taxpayers more than had they just served life in person.

It also has been found that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent to crime whatsoever.

It IS the perfect deterrent. That person will no longer committ any crimes.

(05-30-2019 04:46 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Studies have found that 4% of inmates on death row are actually innocent. So out of every 25 executions, we're putting to death one innocent person.

Quit a leap there. You're saying 4% are found innocent and put to death. I've yet to hear a report saying "Texas put to death last night their 25th prisoner this year. He was innocent but, eh."

How many innocent soldiers die? How many innocent policemen die? Innocent people dying is a necessary part of sustaining the rule of law.