clt says Charlotte still has the number one recruiting class

(06-12-2019 06:54 AM)wkufirst Wrote:  

(06-11-2019 10:07 PM)Hilltopper413 Wrote:  

(06-11-2019 02:55 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 02:54 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 11:10 AM)MUther Wrote:  Frankly, I don't see any difference in this or buying his mom a house. Under all the layers it's still a bribe for influence and it's wrong. Just harder to prove because the line of who is a legitimate coach and who isn't would be blurred. So people can say it's not an infraction or illegal all day long, but it's still wrong. And in this case it was absolutely a bribe for influence on a recruit.

Its amazing the hypocrisy of this thread it what started as good news for WKU and conference. Now we are this point. Everyone mad at WKU, yet all these Power 5 schools we should be mad at do the same damn thing. A lot of assistants have kids, ties, etc. these P5 coaches hire every season to lure top notch talent but sure continue to be mad at WKU....A lot of you come across very very jealous in this thread and blind if you don't see how many other schools we should be angry towards...

I don't have any respect for those schools, either. So I should forget that WKU did it because others do it? Stop finding ways to make this seem okay. It's not. Don't do shady **** and you won't get called shady. It's not that complicated. And there's no hypocrisy. Look up the word. I don't believe anyone should be doing it. And I don't respect anyone who does, including Marshall, should that occur. That's called integrity. You should look up that word, too, since you don't have any.

You can take your respect and “Holier than thou” speech and shove it. The facts are that there is nothing wrong, shady, illegal, or any other negative descriptor you would like to use about this situation. It’s not shady. It’s out in the open. Broad daylight. We hired a 5-star recruits guardian. There have been articles written. Guess what? We are now getting a 5-star for two years thanks to this hire. I’ll say it real loud for you, just for clarity. WE. HIRED. A. PLAYERS. GUARDIAN. Also, WE. ARE. NOT. HIDING. IT. And most importantly, IT. IS. COMPLETELY. LEGAL.

You can not like it. You can slander our program. You can be jealous. Doesn’t matter. We did it, it’s legal, and we have a 5-star playing at WKU because of it. Shove it.

Well said!!

How about respect for those schools that take recruits that don't qualify, allow them to take Introduction to Basket Weaving as freshmen so that they can play football the next year. Most schools don't do that. It is not illegal, but is it wrong?
Some schools hire coaches to get good players, some schools enroll students with deficient academics to get good players.

I dont have an issue with it if he was offered the job AFTER the kid committed. There would be zero ways to prove it was a bribe and under these circumstances it would be legal. It’s smart IMHO. Congratulations Tops.

But if it is proven that WKU offered the job BEFORE the kid committed, now we might be talking violations.

(06-13-2019 09:35 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I dont have an issue with it if he was offered the job AFTER the kid committed. There would be zero ways to prove it was a bribe and under these circumstances it would be legal. It’s smart IMHO. Congratulations Tops.

But if it is proven that WKU offered the job BEFORE the kid committed, now we might be talking violations.

It isn't a violation, it has been within the rules for years (hiring family members attached to recruits). The only change that has been made is that you have to hire them to one of your limited assistant coaching positions. In the past, teams would pay big bucks to family members in made up roles. The NCAA limited that a bit, but it is still 100% legal. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but it is not a violation of any kind.

(06-14-2019 10:56 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(06-13-2019 09:35 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I dont have an issue with it if he was offered the job AFTER the kid committed. There would be zero ways to prove it was a bribe and under these circumstances it would be legal. It’s smart IMHO. Congratulations Tops.

But if it is proven that WKU offered the job BEFORE the kid committed, now we might be talking violations.

It isn't a violation, it has been within the rules for years (hiring family members attached to recruits). The only change that has been made is that you have to hire them to one of your limited assistant coaching positions. In the past, teams would pay big bucks to family members in made up roles. The NCAA limited that a bit, but it is still 100% legal. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but it is not a violation of any kind.

Fair enough then. Like i said. If it’s legal, it’s smart.

Cannot believe this is still a topic a year later.....

(06-10-2019 02:54 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 11:10 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 10:05 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(06-03-2019 04:34 PM)Theflash Wrote:  

(06-03-2019 04:04 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Not biting.

I will. He coached 2013-15 as an assistant at Jackson State, but you probably already knew that GilesFan. Actually, it doesn’t matter if or where he previously coached. There is nothing illegal about him coaching at WKU, for 1 year or the next 10. If it gets us more studs so be it.

Absolutely nothing illegal about hiring an advisor to retain attract a prospect. And Auriantal was brought to Jackson State because he promised to bring International Players to the school, but was unable to do so and they fired him. If you are ok with hiring parents to secure kids...fine, nothing illegal. Just don't try to convince us that he's an actual basketball coach.

Frankly, I don't see any difference in this or buying his mom a house. Under all the layers it's still a bribe for influence and it's wrong. Just harder to prove because the line of who is a legitimate coach and who isn't would be blurred. So people can say it's not an infraction or illegal all day long, but it's still wrong. And in this case it was absolutely a bribe for influence on a recruit.

Its amazing the hypocrisy of this thread it what started as good news for WKU and conference. Now we are this point. Everyone mad at WKU, yet all these Power 5 schools we should be mad at do the same damn thing. A lot of assistants have kids, ties, etc. these P5 coaches hire every season to lure top notch talent but sure continue to be mad at WKU....A lot of you come across very very jealous in this thread and blind if you don't see how many other schools we should be angry towards...

Jealous that you got a really good basketball recruit that lead you to a 2nd place finish? Get out of here with the jealousy....just don't try to claim the advisor was hired to actually coach. He's being paid as much as actual coaches without the pedigree.

(06-10-2019 02:58 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  This has been going on for decades at hundreds of schools(large and small). It is legal. It is done. I'm personally not thrilled about it--but am sure there are much worse things going on behind the scenes at 95% of schools.

NOTICE: The previous statement should be common knowledge to any college basketball fan. If this is new or offensive to your liking perhaps sticking to high school sports would be more palatable.

This is an actual reasonable point of view. (outside of the 95% pie in the sky estimate)

Probably more like 99%. You may be a little naive.

(06-18-2019 02:38 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 02:58 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  This has been going on for decades at hundreds of schools(large and small). It is legal. It is done. I'm personally not thrilled about it--but am sure there are much worse things going on behind the scenes at 95% of schools.

NOTICE: The previous statement should be common knowledge to any college basketball fan. If this is new or offensive to your liking perhaps sticking to high school sports would be more palatable.

This is an actual reasonable point of view. (outside of the 95% pie in the sky estimate)

High Schools are shady now too with AAU and all the transfers....All of this starts when a stud kid is like 13..

Where is all the chatter on here for this piece of news today? Oklahoma St hired older brother of the #2 player nationally in class of 2020, Caden Cunningham. How dare OSU!!! Where is the outrage on here?

(06-25-2019 04:38 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is all the chatter on here for this piece of news today? Oklahoma St hired older brother of the #2 player nationally in class of 2020, Caden Cunningham. How dare OSU!!! Where is the outrage on here?

Wish we would have done it. I mean odu only hires the dad so they would have been out.

Yawn. This UCONN fiasco distracted me from how boring you all are.

Weird, Stith is still on the coaching staff after both sons graduated. But your guy does something, I'm sure. Somebody has to make sure the tablets are fully charged and balls full of air. I'm sure he'll stay on the staff once Bassey leaves, I mean nobody can fill those balls up like he can.

(06-25-2019 04:52 PM)odu09 Wrote:  Yawn. This UCONN fiasco distracted me from how boring you all are.

Weird, Stith is still on the coaching staff after both sons graduated. But your guy does something, I'm sure. Somebody has to make sure the tablets are fully charged and balls full of air. I'm sure he'll stay on the staff once Bassey leaves, I mean nobody can fill those balls up like he can.

Nope we will let him go and hire another family member of a player. We don’t deny it, just interesting that can’t see the stith connection. I mean his sons did transfer in after he was hired.

I can't speak for the entire ODU fan base, but I'd wager that most of us are fine with the transactional nature of your recruiting.

What bothers us most is how little Coach Stansbury is able to deliver with all of this superior talent.

Maybe this year.

(06-25-2019 07:13 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I can't speak for the entire ODU fan base, but I'd wager that most of us are fine with the transactional nature of your recruiting.

What bothers us most is how little Coach Stansbury is able to deliver with all of this superior talent.

Maybe this year.

Pretty much. But they’re sensitive so it’s kind of fun to poke them about it.

(06-25-2019 05:34 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:52 PM)odu09 Wrote:  Yawn. This UCONN fiasco distracted me from how boring you all are.

Weird, Stith is still on the coaching staff after both sons graduated. But your guy does something, I'm sure. Somebody has to make sure the tablets are fully charged and balls full of air. I'm sure he'll stay on the staff once Bassey leaves, I mean nobody can fill those balls up like he can.

Nope we will let him go and hire another family member of a player. We don’t deny it, just interesting that can’t see the stith connection. I mean his sons did transfer in after he was hired.

Seems like a good plan, hopefully he took down some good notes on the ball filling strategies so the next guy doesn't have a steep learning curve.

(06-26-2019 07:09 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 05:34 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:52 PM)odu09 Wrote:  Yawn. This UCONN fiasco distracted me from how boring you all are.

Weird, Stith is still on the coaching staff after both sons graduated. But your guy does something, I'm sure. Somebody has to make sure the tablets are fully charged and balls full of air. I'm sure he'll stay on the staff once Bassey leaves, I mean nobody can fill those balls up like he can.

Nope we will let him go and hire another family member of a player. We don’t deny it, just interesting that can’t see the stith connection. I mean his sons did transfer in after he was hired.

Seems like a good plan, hopefully he took down some good notes on the ball filling strategies so the next guy doesn't have a steep learning curve.

Nahhh just show him what channels are what on his directv package.