(05-14-2019 04:16 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 03:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 02:54 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 12:50 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Yes, I know this is satire, nonetheless...

The Ivy League values exclusivity at least a billion times more than it values geographic reach or anything to do with sports.

The Ivy League exclusivity is critical, and will never be eroded by expansion, because the only thing that Brown and Dartmouth have over about 20 other really good private colleges is, "We're in the Ivy League and you're not."

Johns Hopkins and MIT would still keep it exclusive.

So would Chicago, Washington U., Rice, Emory, Carnegie Mellon and Case Western.

... but at the expense of whatever edge in reputation that Brown and Dartmouth currently hold over any those schools.

Considering some of these schools are already ranked above Brown and Dartmouth, and aren't hurting for applications or an enhanced enrollment profile, why couldn't adding MIT, Chicago, or Hopkins make either better?

I agree. Also Carnegie Mellon, who like MIT, is very strong in certain areas.

(05-14-2019 09:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 12:40 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 09:42 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The Ivy should adopt the "Southern Strategy" and add Johns Hopkins and Emory.

Emory seems to be a great academic fit on paper, although its ties to the Methodist United Methodist Church might cause a conflict for the university presidents.

I don't think so. Many of Emory's seminary professors have Ivy ties. Princeton & Yale that I can think of off the top of my head. The Seminary at Emory has no impact on the rest of the campus. It shares a theology/law class and ethics with other campus disciplines, but the academic freedom issue for the main campus is not impacted. And the seminary itself is about as wide open on current social issues as you can get. I would say this is also true of Duke University.

Edit: I think Vanderbilt might also be a legitimate option if they wanted to pursue it. It doesn't seem that way now, but Vandy will one day have to come to grips with a small stadium they refuse to renovate, and likely with investment in student athletes compensation packages, and with not expanding their women's athletics to include Softball.

Emory's seminary is very far left. Emory itself is almost a Berkeley in Georgia, except that all their foreign Chinese students are not political.

Add Emory, Davidson, Washington & Lee and Richmond.

(05-15-2019 08:57 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  Add Emory, Davidson, Washington & Lee and Richmond.

Non-starter.

Try Duke or Wake Forest. It's the Ivy League.

Wasn't William and Mary on a list years ago? They are slowly trying to turn quasi private. Eventually I see them having a Cornell model with it's public & private status.

No school with a higher acceptance rate than the highest current school or a lower endowment than the lowest current school stands a chance in my mind. 10.3% and $3.5 billion.

(05-16-2019 04:34 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  Wasn't William and Mary on a list years ago? They are slowly trying to turn quasi private. Eventually I see them having a Cornell model with it's public & private status.

What does that mean, though? Because "quasi-private" can be pretty broad.

(05-14-2019 07:26 PM)goofus Wrote:  In this hypothetical, would any potential expansion school have to start playing FCS football?

If they currently play D-II or D-III and wanted to continue fielding a team, yes.

If they don't currently play D-II or D-III, then no.

Hello, Georgetown here. Here is our application.