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RE: Cronin Contract Talks with UC
(05-14-2019 02:07 PM)Topcat Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 12:41 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 10:49 AM)Topcat Wrote:  He also had Trey Burke until Michigan undercut us at the very last minute.

I don't care much about anything else...but for the love of God can we stop using "almost gots" has a way to place a feather in someone's recruiting cap? It's the dumbest non-argument I've ever seen used to justify anything...in a sales business you can't go to you boss and say "Well, I almost got the $2M contract sir, but a bigger company came in last minute, that still means I'm a good salesman."

The "almost got's" are hilarious and a sure sign of grasping for straws to defend something indefensible. These Cronin shills are still in full force I see. Gotta love it, even after this article.

If you will go back and read my initial post in this thread sir, you will see that I too am glad that he's gone. While I generally thought he did a good job here, I too got tired of losing to lesser teams in the NCAA tournament.

However, what I don't like is revisionist historians who come on here as the smartest people in the room and all just pat themselves on the back now that the guy they hated is gone.

Trey Burke was a COMMIT to UC... until he wasn't. That's what 18 year old kids do. They like what they have until something shinier comes along and then they want that.

If this Evan Prater guy from Wyoming decides at the last minute that Notre Dame is a little cooler than UC, is Fickell then an idiot that can't recruit?

A guy who makes 9 straight NCAA's must know something about recruiting no matter what conference you come from.

… but not if you don't say so.

I know...I was responding in a general sense to a trend I've seen, and yours was the opportunity to respond.

For someone seemingly interested in the literal reading of posts, you'll note I said nothing about Cronin being "an idiot who can't recruit", I simply said that saying someone almost got someone isn't a sign that they're a good recruiter, and shouldn't be used as such. In your example, I wouldn't say that a kid who signed somewhere else is a sign that Fickell is a good recruiter, that's a dumb argument.
 
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RE: Cronin Contract Talks with UC
(05-14-2019 02:07 PM)Topcat Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 12:41 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 10:49 AM)Topcat Wrote:  He also had Trey Burke until Michigan undercut us at the very last minute.

I don't care much about anything else...but for the love of God can we stop using "almost gots" has a way to place a feather in someone's recruiting cap? It's the dumbest non-argument I've ever seen used to justify anything...in a sales business you can't go to you boss and say "Well, I almost got the $2M contract sir, but a bigger company came in last minute, that still means I'm a good salesman."

The "almost got's" are hilarious and a sure sign of grasping for straws to defend something indefensible. These Cronin shills are still in full force I see. Gotta love it, even after this article.

If you will go back and read my initial post in this thread sir, you will see that I too am glad that he's gone. While I generally thought he did a good job here, I too got tired of losing to lesser teams in the NCAA tournament.

However, what I don't like is revisionist historians who come on here as the smartest people in the room and all just pat themselves on the back now that the guy they hated is gone.

Trey Burke was a COMMIT to UC... until he wasn't. That's what 18 year old kids do. They like what they have until something shinier comes along and then they want that.

If this Evan Prater guy from Wyoming decides at the last minute that Notre Dame is a little cooler than UC, is Fickell then an idiot that can't recruit?

A guy who makes 9 straight NCAA's must know something about recruiting no matter what conference you come from.

… but not if you don't say so.

The revisionist history is the he was "pushed" out and that Bohn "didn't want him". IMO this article is a bad look for Cronin and his shills. That's really the bottom line for me. I get sick of the constant bashing of the UC admin/AD over the handling of this, when clearly it was the other side that was the issue.
 
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RE: Cronin Contract Talks with UC
(05-14-2019 02:41 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:07 PM)Topcat Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 12:41 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 10:49 AM)Topcat Wrote:  He also had Trey Burke until Michigan undercut us at the very last minute.

I don't care much about anything else...but for the love of God can we stop using "almost gots" has a way to place a feather in someone's recruiting cap? It's the dumbest non-argument I've ever seen used to justify anything...in a sales business you can't go to you boss and say "Well, I almost got the $2M contract sir, but a bigger company came in last minute, that still means I'm a good salesman."

The "almost got's" are hilarious and a sure sign of grasping for straws to defend something indefensible. These Cronin shills are still in full force I see. Gotta love it, even after this article.

If you will go back and read my initial post in this thread sir, you will see that I too am glad that he's gone. While I generally thought he did a good job here, I too got tired of losing to lesser teams in the NCAA tournament.

However, what I don't like is revisionist historians who come on here as the smartest people in the room and all just pat themselves on the back now that the guy they hated is gone.

Trey Burke was a COMMIT to UC... until he wasn't. That's what 18 year old kids do. They like what they have until something shinier comes along and then they want that.

If this Evan Prater guy from Wyoming decides at the last minute that Notre Dame is a little cooler than UC, is Fickell then an idiot that can't recruit?

A guy who makes 9 straight NCAA's must know something about recruiting no matter what conference you come from.

… but not if you don't say so.

The revisionist history is the he was "pushed" out and that Bohn "didn't want him". IMO this article is a bad look for Cronin and his shills. That's really the bottom line for me. I get sick of the constant bashing of the UC admin/AD over the handling of this, when clearly it was the other side that was the issue.

Haven't read the article so this is a response to comments. So if Bohn actually wanted to keep Mick as earnestly as this article apparently makes it sound what does that say about Bohn? Was he just another Mick apologist who was satisfied with mediocrity in March and fooled by a coach who paradoxically "can't recruit" and "doesn't develop players very well" while winning frequently and consistently enough to appear more regularly in a merit based tourney than almost any other school only to typically lose to inferior teams due to his "poor coaching decisions"?

Sounds to me from the comments that Bohn wasn't especially ready to "move on" from Cronin. Instead it sounds like he understood that Cronin is the type of coach that you do everything you can to hold on to because the grass very likely isn't greener under somebody else at UC. Or is Bohn just another "shill"? Asking for some friends on the board...
 
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RE: Cronin Contract Talks with UC
(05-14-2019 04:37 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:41 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:07 PM)Topcat Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 12:41 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I don't care much about anything else...but for the love of God can we stop using "almost gots" has a way to place a feather in someone's recruiting cap? It's the dumbest non-argument I've ever seen used to justify anything...in a sales business you can't go to you boss and say "Well, I almost got the $2M contract sir, but a bigger company came in last minute, that still means I'm a good salesman."

The "almost got's" are hilarious and a sure sign of grasping for straws to defend something indefensible. These Cronin shills are still in full force I see. Gotta love it, even after this article.

If you will go back and read my initial post in this thread sir, you will see that I too am glad that he's gone. While I generally thought he did a good job here, I too got tired of losing to lesser teams in the NCAA tournament.

However, what I don't like is revisionist historians who come on here as the smartest people in the room and all just pat themselves on the back now that the guy they hated is gone.

Trey Burke was a COMMIT to UC... until he wasn't. That's what 18 year old kids do. They like what they have until something shinier comes along and then they want that.

If this Evan Prater guy from Wyoming decides at the last minute that Notre Dame is a little cooler than UC, is Fickell then an idiot that can't recruit?

A guy who makes 9 straight NCAA's must know something about recruiting no matter what conference you come from.

… but not if you don't say so.

The revisionist history is the he was "pushed" out and that Bohn "didn't want him". IMO this article is a bad look for Cronin and his shills. That's really the bottom line for me. I get sick of the constant bashing of the UC admin/AD over the handling of this, when clearly it was the other side that was the issue.

Haven't read the article so this is a response to comments. So if Bohn actually wanted to keep Mick as earnestly as this article apparently makes it sound what does that say about Bohn? Was he just another Mick apologist who was satisfied with mediocrity in March and fooled by a coach who paradoxically "can't recruit" and "doesn't develop players very well" while winning frequently and consistently enough to appear more regularly in a merit based tourney than almost any other school only to typically lose to inferior teams due to his "poor coaching decisions"?

Sounds to me from the comments that Bohn wasn't especially ready to "move on" from Cronin. Instead it sounds like he understood that Cronin is the type of coach that you do everything you can to hold on to because the grass very likely isn't greener under somebody else at UC. Or is Bohn just another "shill"? Asking for some friends on the board...
The question is what offer would have kept Cronin from taking his "dream job"?
 
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RE: Cronin Contract Talks with UC
(05-14-2019 04:37 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:41 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:07 PM)Topcat Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 12:41 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I don't care much about anything else...but for the love of God can we stop using "almost gots" has a way to place a feather in someone's recruiting cap? It's the dumbest non-argument I've ever seen used to justify anything...in a sales business you can't go to you boss and say "Well, I almost got the $2M contract sir, but a bigger company came in last minute, that still means I'm a good salesman."

The "almost got's" are hilarious and a sure sign of grasping for straws to defend something indefensible. These Cronin shills are still in full force I see. Gotta love it, even after this article.

If you will go back and read my initial post in this thread sir, you will see that I too am glad that he's gone. While I generally thought he did a good job here, I too got tired of losing to lesser teams in the NCAA tournament.

However, what I don't like is revisionist historians who come on here as the smartest people in the room and all just pat themselves on the back now that the guy they hated is gone.

Trey Burke was a COMMIT to UC... until he wasn't. That's what 18 year old kids do. They like what they have until something shinier comes along and then they want that.

If this Evan Prater guy from Wyoming decides at the last minute that Notre Dame is a little cooler than UC, is Fickell then an idiot that can't recruit?

A guy who makes 9 straight NCAA's must know something about recruiting no matter what conference you come from.

… but not if you don't say so.

The revisionist history is the he was "pushed" out and that Bohn "didn't want him". IMO this article is a bad look for Cronin and his shills. That's really the bottom line for me. I get sick of the constant bashing of the UC admin/AD over the handling of this, when clearly it was the other side that was the issue.

Haven't read the article so this is a response to comments. So if Bohn actually wanted to keep Mick as earnestly as this article apparently makes it sound what does that say about Bohn? Was he just another Mick apologist who was satisfied with mediocrity in March and fooled by a coach who paradoxically "can't recruit" and "doesn't develop players very well" while winning frequently and consistently enough to appear more regularly in a merit based tourney than almost any other school only to typically lose to inferior teams due to his "poor coaching decisions"?

Sounds to me from the comments that Bohn wasn't especially ready to "move on" from Cronin. Instead it sounds like he understood that Cronin is the type of coach that you do everything you can to hold on to because the grass very likely isn't greener under somebody else at UC. Or is Bohn just another "shill"? Asking for some friends on the board...
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RE: Cronin Contract Talks with UC
(05-14-2019 04:37 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:41 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:07 PM)Topcat Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 12:41 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I don't care much about anything else...but for the love of God can we stop using "almost gots" has a way to place a feather in someone's recruiting cap? It's the dumbest non-argument I've ever seen used to justify anything...in a sales business you can't go to you boss and say "Well, I almost got the $2M contract sir, but a bigger company came in last minute, that still means I'm a good salesman."

The "almost got's" are hilarious and a sure sign of grasping for straws to defend something indefensible. These Cronin shills are still in full force I see. Gotta love it, even after this article.

If you will go back and read my initial post in this thread sir, you will see that I too am glad that he's gone. While I generally thought he did a good job here, I too got tired of losing to lesser teams in the NCAA tournament.

However, what I don't like is revisionist historians who come on here as the smartest people in the room and all just pat themselves on the back now that the guy they hated is gone.

Trey Burke was a COMMIT to UC... until he wasn't. That's what 18 year old kids do. They like what they have until something shinier comes along and then they want that.

If this Evan Prater guy from Wyoming decides at the last minute that Notre Dame is a little cooler than UC, is Fickell then an idiot that can't recruit?

A guy who makes 9 straight NCAA's must know something about recruiting no matter what conference you come from.

… but not if you don't say so.

The revisionist history is the he was "pushed" out and that Bohn "didn't want him". IMO this article is a bad look for Cronin and his shills. That's really the bottom line for me. I get sick of the constant bashing of the UC admin/AD over the handling of this, when clearly it was the other side that was the issue.

Haven't read the article so this is a response to comments. So if Bohn actually wanted to keep Mick as earnestly as this article apparently makes it sound what does that say about Bohn? Was he just another Mick apologist who was satisfied with mediocrity in March and fooled by a coach who paradoxically "can't recruit" and "doesn't develop players very well" while winning frequently and consistently enough to appear more regularly in a merit based tourney than almost any other school only to typically lose to inferior teams due to his "poor coaching decisions"?

Sounds to me from the comments that Bohn wasn't especially ready to "move on" from Cronin. Instead it sounds like he understood that Cronin is the type of coach that you do everything you can to hold on to because the grass very likely isn't greener under somebody else at UC. Or is Bohn just another "shill"? Asking for some friends on the board...


Lost me right here...
 
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For the clowns that want to call me out on Cronin, please tell me you never attended a class at UC because your reading skills suck.

So I will try again and this time with short little words similar to those you hear in your head at night.

I was OK with Cronin leaving. (Just wrote that last week) I lost faith in his ability to coach on the floor during the Nevada game. (You may want to look up Nevada - I know its a complicated word - its a state and a school.)

Cronin did a really good (easier to read than incredible) job winning much of anything this past season especially the AAC tournament. (AAC is the league UC is in if that helps). Iowa (another state and school) was not a surprise.

Cronin will be able to recruit many Top 100 high school players during his tenure (sorry - time) at UCLA. Brannen will struggle (be real tough) to get any at all while at UC. Why? (Look back and say out loud - AAC.) Brannen is not Penny; or even has a nickel's worth of cred (respect - I know the money talk was confusing) to top players.

I want both coaches to succeed.

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Rag is on FULL TILT. Give it a break, brother.
 
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This message board sucks.
 
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(05-14-2019 07:21 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  This message board sucks.

To be fair, all of UC message boards pretty much suck right now, this one can be at least palatable at times.
 
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(05-14-2019 07:11 PM)Romell Shorter Wrote:  Rag is on FULL TILT. Give it a break, brother.
He still hasn't recovered from Nippert Notch-gate, so he's had a Bohn to pick with the AD ever since.
 
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It sounds to me like Bohn was put into a "damn-if-you-do-damn-if-you-don't" situation. If he had "walked away" from Mick (like a lot of us wanted him to do), he was going to be vilified for letting "a great coach go." Indeed, we saw the reports put out that UC was trying to give Mick a "functional pay cut." (Whatever the hell that means.) If he had given "the store away" to Mick, he was going to get roasted for giving away too much to a Coach who didn't get far enough into March.

I think Bohn did the best he could and got screwed by Mick. I think Bohn negotiated in good faith with a guy who didn't. Am I going to hold that over Bohn's head? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. All indications from UC always were that they thought they were close to signing a new contract with Mick Cronin. That was the consistent message from the AD. That remains the consistent message from the AD. The one's whose message changed was UCLA and Mick Cronin.

You ask me who I trust? Mike Bohn. And that includes the Brannen hire. I haven't always been a fan of Mike Bohn, but he's won me over through the years. For all any of us know, Mick was pissed when they put that big graphic of Bob Huggins up in the bar instead of him on that wall, and decided then and there...for no other better reason than that...that he was "done" with UC at the end of the season and made his mind up in August. We'll never know the full story. But I trust Mike Bohn. (I'm not willing to say that he's "the best" AD in UC history...I'd still go with Bob Goin on that one, but Bohn's good to go in my book.)
 
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(05-14-2019 06:57 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  For the clowns that want to call me out on Cronin, please tell me you never attended a class at UC because your reading skills suck.

So I will try again and this time with short little words similar to those you hear in your head at night.

I was OK with Cronin leaving. (Just wrote that last week) I lost faith in his ability to coach on the floor during the Nevada game. (You may want to look up Nevada - I know its a complicated word - its a state and a school.)

Cronin did a really good (easier to read than incredible) job winning much of anything this past season especially the AAC tournament. (AAC is the league UC is in if that helps). Iowa (another state and school) was not a surprise.

Cronin will be able to recruit many Top 100 high school players during his tenure (sorry - time) at UCLA. Brannen will struggle (be real tough) to get any at all while at UC. Why? (Look back and say out loud - AAC.) Brannen is not Penny; or even has a nickel's worth of cred (respect - I know the money talk was confusing) to top players.

I want both coaches to succeed.

Flash cards next post so you can keep up with Bearcatmark's stats.

I agree with you up until this point. That’s purely an assumption on your part. Who’s to say that given time, Brannen won’t be pulling in some top 100 talent? Why not be optimistic and give him a chance? There’s no reason not to, what’s done is done and you have no chance to change it.

Or make yourself miserable with cynicism...
 
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(05-14-2019 04:37 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:41 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 02:07 PM)Topcat Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 12:41 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I don't care much about anything else...but for the love of God can we stop using "almost gots" has a way to place a feather in someone's recruiting cap? It's the dumbest non-argument I've ever seen used to justify anything...in a sales business you can't go to you boss and say "Well, I almost got the $2M contract sir, but a bigger company came in last minute, that still means I'm a good salesman."

The "almost got's" are hilarious and a sure sign of grasping for straws to defend something indefensible. These Cronin shills are still in full force I see. Gotta love it, even after this article.

If you will go back and read my initial post in this thread sir, you will see that I too am glad that he's gone. While I generally thought he did a good job here, I too got tired of losing to lesser teams in the NCAA tournament.

However, what I don't like is revisionist historians who come on here as the smartest people in the room and all just pat themselves on the back now that the guy they hated is gone.

Trey Burke was a COMMIT to UC... until he wasn't. That's what 18 year old kids do. They like what they have until something shinier comes along and then they want that.

If this Evan Prater guy from Wyoming decides at the last minute that Notre Dame is a little cooler than UC, is Fickell then an idiot that can't recruit?

A guy who makes 9 straight NCAA's must know something about recruiting no matter what conference you come from.

… but not if you don't say so.

The revisionist history is the he was "pushed" out and that Bohn "didn't want him". IMO this article is a bad look for Cronin and his shills. That's really the bottom line for me. I get sick of the constant bashing of the UC admin/AD over the handling of this, when clearly it was the other side that was the issue.

Haven't read the article so this is a response to comments. So if Bohn actually wanted to keep Mick as earnestly as this article apparently makes it sound what does that say about Bohn? Was he just another Mick apologist who was satisfied with mediocrity in March and fooled by a coach who paradoxically "can't recruit" and "doesn't develop players very well" while winning frequently and consistently enough to appear more regularly in a merit based tourney than almost any other school only to typically lose to inferior teams due to his "poor coaching decisions"?

Sounds to me from the comments that Bohn wasn't especially ready to "move on" from Cronin. Instead it sounds like he understood that Cronin is the type of coach that you do everything you can to hold on to because the grass very likely isn't greener under somebody else at UC. Or is Bohn just another "shill"? Asking for some friends on the board...

I really don't know where to begin with this one. It sounds like you are just doing everything you can to paint those who were ready to move on from Mick Cronin in a negative light. For the millionth time, Mick chose to move on. He wasn't forced out. He wasn't fired. The information requested in this article prove that Bohn made a good faith effort to negotiate with Cronin, which is something a guy in his position should do given Cronin's track record of making the tournament and running a clean program. Regardless of my frustration with Cronin, I wholeheartedly admit the grass isn't always greener and only time will tell if we are better off without him. Mick did a good job here by and large and I will look back fondly on his time here aside from the Nevada collapse. But the fact that Bohn did make Cronin a reasonable offer doesn't invalidate the opinions of those ready to move on, no matter how hard you try to spin the story.
 
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(05-14-2019 09:13 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 06:57 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  For the clowns that want to call me out on Cronin, please tell me you never attended a class at UC because your reading skills suck.

So I will try again and this time with short little words similar to those you hear in your head at night.

I was OK with Cronin leaving. (Just wrote that last week) I lost faith in his ability to coach on the floor during the Nevada game. (You may want to look up Nevada - I know its a complicated word - its a state and a school.)

Cronin did a really good (easier to read than incredible) job winning much of anything this past season especially the AAC tournament. (AAC is the league UC is in if that helps). Iowa (another state and school) was not a surprise.

Cronin will be able to recruit many Top 100 high school players during his tenure (sorry - time) at UCLA. Brannen will struggle (be real tough) to get any at all while at UC. Why? (Look back and say out loud - AAC.) Brannen is not Penny; or even has a nickel's worth of cred (respect - I know the money talk was confusing) to top players.

I want both coaches to succeed.

Flash cards next post so you can keep up with Bearcatmark's stats.

I agree with you up until this point. That’s purely an assumption on your part. Who’s to say that given time, Brannen won’t be pulling in some top 100 talent? Why not be optimistic and give him a chance? There’s no reason not to, what’s done is done and you have no chance to change it.

Or make yourself miserable with cynicism...

My premise has nothing to do with Brannen. It is all about a mid-major league. That's why a hire like a former NBA standout that played at UC could have made sense with recruiting.

I've given the AAC a chance in both major sports. And it has produced zero including a two-time undefeated regular season team that was excluded from the playoffs. (And please save the UConn chatter since it was done with Big East recruited players)
 
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(05-14-2019 09:13 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 06:57 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  For the clowns that want to call me out on Cronin, please tell me you never attended a class at UC because your reading skills suck.

So I will try again and this time with short little words similar to those you hear in your head at night.

I was OK with Cronin leaving. (Just wrote that last week) I lost faith in his ability to coach on the floor during the Nevada game. (You may want to look up Nevada - I know its a complicated word - its a state and a school.)

Cronin did a really good (easier to read than incredible) job winning much of anything this past season especially the AAC tournament. (AAC is the league UC is in if that helps). Iowa (another state and school) was not a surprise.

Cronin will be able to recruit many Top 100 high school players during his tenure (sorry - time) at UCLA. Brannen will struggle (be real tough) to get any at all while at UC. Why? (Look back and say out loud - AAC.) Brannen is not Penny; or even has a nickel's worth of cred (respect - I know the money talk was confusing) to top players.

I want both coaches to succeed.

Flash cards next post so you can keep up with Bearcatmark's stats.

I agree with you up until this point. That’s purely an assumption on your part. Who’s to say that given time, Brannen won’t be pulling in some top 100 talent? Why not be optimistic and give him a chance? There’s no reason not to, what’s done is done and you have no chance to change it.

Or make yourself miserable with cynicism...

Ragpicker definitely wins my vote for most miserable person on the board. You'd think we were coming off an 0-12 football season and a 20-year NCAA tournament drought with garbage facilities listening to him talk about the state of our athletic program.
 
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(05-14-2019 09:33 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 09:13 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 06:57 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  For the clowns that want to call me out on Cronin, please tell me you never attended a class at UC because your reading skills suck.

So I will try again and this time with short little words similar to those you hear in your head at night.

I was OK with Cronin leaving. (Just wrote that last week) I lost faith in his ability to coach on the floor during the Nevada game. (You may want to look up Nevada - I know its a complicated word - its a state and a school.)

Cronin did a really good (easier to read than incredible) job winning much of anything this past season especially the AAC tournament. (AAC is the league UC is in if that helps). Iowa (another state and school) was not a surprise.

Cronin will be able to recruit many Top 100 high school players during his tenure (sorry - time) at UCLA. Brannen will struggle (be real tough) to get any at all while at UC. Why? (Look back and say out loud - AAC.) Brannen is not Penny; or even has a nickel's worth of cred (respect - I know the money talk was confusing) to top players.

I want both coaches to succeed.

Flash cards next post so you can keep up with Bearcatmark's stats.

I agree with you up until this point. That’s purely an assumption on your part. Who’s to say that given time, Brannen won’t be pulling in some top 100 talent? Why not be optimistic and give him a chance? There’s no reason not to, what’s done is done and you have no chance to change it.

Or make yourself miserable with cynicism...

Ragpicker definitely wins my vote for most miserable person on the board. You'd think we were coming off an 0-12 football season and a 20-year NCAA tournament drought with garbage facilities listening to him talk about the state of our athletic program.

Miserable and drought are big words for you. But I can see you scored really low on comprehension skills.

Wow, I finally took notice of your location.....hehe closet Sucknut fan. Trolling UC fans - showing those nuts around your neck now.
 
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(05-14-2019 09:31 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 09:13 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 06:57 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  For the clowns that want to call me out on Cronin, please tell me you never attended a class at UC because your reading skills suck.

So I will try again and this time with short little words similar to those you hear in your head at night.

I was OK with Cronin leaving. (Just wrote that last week) I lost faith in his ability to coach on the floor during the Nevada game. (You may want to look up Nevada - I know its a complicated word - its a state and a school.)

Cronin did a really good (easier to read than incredible) job winning much of anything this past season especially the AAC tournament. (AAC is the league UC is in if that helps). Iowa (another state and school) was not a surprise.

Cronin will be able to recruit many Top 100 high school players during his tenure (sorry - time) at UCLA. Brannen will struggle (be real tough) to get any at all while at UC. Why? (Look back and say out loud - AAC.) Brannen is not Penny; or even has a nickel's worth of cred (respect - I know the money talk was confusing) to top players.

I want both coaches to succeed.

Flash cards next post so you can keep up with Bearcatmark's stats.

I agree with you up until this point. That’s purely an assumption on your part. Who’s to say that given time, Brannen won’t be pulling in some top 100 talent? Why not be optimistic and give him a chance? There’s no reason not to, what’s done is done and you have no chance to change it.

Or make yourself miserable with cynicism...

My premise has nothing to do with Brannen. It is all about a mid-major league. That's why a hire like a former NBA standout that played at UC could have made sense with recruiting.

I've given the AAC a chance in both major sports. And it has produced zero including a two-time undefeated regular season team that was excluded from the playoffs. (And please save the UConn chatter since it was done with Big East recruited players)

Well then I guess yer just stuck in purgatory until (if ever) UC climbs back into the P5. There’s nothing anyone can do for you. What you got just might be terminal, buddy.
 
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(05-14-2019 09:49 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 09:31 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 09:13 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 06:57 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  For the clowns that want to call me out on Cronin, please tell me you never attended a class at UC because your reading skills suck.

So I will try again and this time with short little words similar to those you hear in your head at night.

I was OK with Cronin leaving. (Just wrote that last week) I lost faith in his ability to coach on the floor during the Nevada game. (You may want to look up Nevada - I know its a complicated word - its a state and a school.)

Cronin did a really good (easier to read than incredible) job winning much of anything this past season especially the AAC tournament. (AAC is the league UC is in if that helps). Iowa (another state and school) was not a surprise.

Cronin will be able to recruit many Top 100 high school players during his tenure (sorry - time) at UCLA. Brannen will struggle (be real tough) to get any at all while at UC. Why? (Look back and say out loud - AAC.) Brannen is not Penny; or even has a nickel's worth of cred (respect - I know the money talk was confusing) to top players.

I want both coaches to succeed.

Flash cards next post so you can keep up with Bearcatmark's stats.

I agree with you up until this point. That’s purely an assumption on your part. Who’s to say that given time, Brannen won’t be pulling in some top 100 talent? Why not be optimistic and give him a chance? There’s no reason not to, what’s done is done and you have no chance to change it.

Or make yourself miserable with cynicism...

My premise has nothing to do with Brannen. It is all about a mid-major league. That's why a hire like a former NBA standout that played at UC could have made sense with recruiting.

I've given the AAC a chance in both major sports. And it has produced zero including a two-time undefeated regular season team that was excluded from the playoffs. (And please save the UConn chatter since it was done with Big East recruited players)

Well then I guess yer just stuck in purgatory until (if ever) UC climbs back into the P5. There’s nothing anyone can do for you. What you got just might be terminal, buddy.

Might be.....but why settle for mediocrity. See I not only put my radical (by some dim views) thoughts on this board but I put my money and my time into UC football and basketball. Should be able to make all 12 regular season games this year. That's the plan anyway.
 
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(05-14-2019 07:21 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  This message board sucks.

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