(05-13-2019 04:40 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-13-2019 04:38 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-13-2019 04:35 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-13-2019 04:30 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  This is cool and all but shouldn’t it say...

P6 -> G4 -> FCS ?

Nobody will be happy because it's a restriction, but I also don't want a runaway slop scenario where with the first pick in the draft C-USA selects Alabama either. You want the final configurations to at least be semi-plausible I'd think. (And Alabama in the AAC is also one of those things that would suspend disbelief.) I think you'll find in the AAC the name of the game will be playing into the P5, since it is home of the tastiest teams to expand with within the G5.

So when the Big 10’s first move is to kick Rutgers and no G4 conference wants them do they drop to FCS?

No, they schedule Liberty and NMSU for a home-and-home each year in football to fill half their schedule, then take paycheck murder games at the beginning and end of the season.

Isn't that why the B1G took Rutgers to begin with? Why give up the body bag game against an FCS team that is technically P5? AND they get to pretend they only play D1 schools, to boot!

Can I .........

This post has been redacted to protect a possible draft strategy.

If nobody steps forward to claim it I'll play as the SoCon. This would bump C-USA off the clock as the SoCon would have the lowest Sagarin.

(05-13-2019 06:51 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Can I go with the wildcard, and try to draft a new SWC?

There are 12 FBS programs in Texas alone, and programs in neighboring states that could be included. I think there is more than enough talent to build a solid 8 to 10 member G5 conference.

Depends on if we have somebody step forward to run the MWC and then you'd start with their inventory or if you're willing to start with a FCS.

(05-13-2019 06:53 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-13-2019 06:51 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Can I go with the wildcard, and try to draft a new SWC?

There are 12 FBS programs in Texas alone, and programs in neighboring states that could be included. I think there is more than enough talent to build a solid 8 to 10 member G5 conference.

Depends on if we have somebody step forward to run the MWC and then you'd start with their inventory or if you're willing to start with a FCS.

I'd be willing to start with the MWC inventory.

(05-13-2019 05:57 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Whichever conference doesn’t have a rep should go to DavidSt. DavidSt = instant unpredictability/ratings.

I have DavidSt personally earmarked as the AAC representative should they protest because "ZOMG NOT P6".

Will take the B12, have a interesting idea on where to take it.

I'd like to pick for either the MAC or Big Ten--doesn't matter which.

(05-13-2019 07:17 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I'd like to pick for either the MAC or Big Ten--doesn't matter which.

I'll nominate you in the BIG forum.

(05-13-2019 07:17 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I'd like to pick for either the MAC or Big Ten--doesn't matter which.

See their respective boards, since both are active. Do the nominating on the thread I posted linking back to here.

To mimic an expansion draft, in think each conference ought to be able to protect X number of teams. I think 5 is a good number.

Snake draft or traditional?

I also think the act of dumping a current member entitles you to pick someone up in the same move. Think of it as releasing a player to open up a roster spot to sign a rookie.

Should a conference that loses an unprotected team be granted a compensatory pick before the start of the next round?

Im home sick so I decided to do my own conference realignment draft.

I would run it more like a supplemental draft to keep Bama out of CUSA and Ohio St out of the Sun Belt. Lets say the conferences can hold onto 4 of their current members if they choose to before the selecting starts. So for arguments sake the G5 wont want to keep anyone but the P5 can protect their big boys.

SEC - Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida
ACC - Clemson, FSU, UNC, Duke
XII - Texas, OU, KU, Texas Tech
PAC 12 - USC, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA
B1G - OSU, UM, UW, PSU

Round 1:
CUSA - Virginia
Sun Belt - Auburn
MAC - Notre Dame
MWC - Washington
AAC - Virginia tech
PAC 12 - Arizona
ACC - Louisville
XII - A&M
B1G - Iowa
SEC - Tennessee

Round 2:
SEC - Kentucky
B1G - Nebraska
XII - Arkansas
ACC - Vanderbilt
PAC - Cal
AAC - Maryland
MWC - Utah
MAC - Illinois
Sun Belt - Miami
CUSA - South Carolina

Round 3:
CUSA - NC State
Sun Belt - Ole Miss
MAC - Indiana
MWC - ASU
AAC - WVU
PAC - Colorado
ACC - BC
XII - Missouri
B1G - Michigan State
SEC - Miss State
*All SEC schools are off the board

Round 4:
SEC - TCU
B1G - Northwestern
XII - OK State
ACC - Syracuse
PAC - WSU
AAC - Pitt
MWC - Oregon State
MAC - Minnesota
Sun Belt - Georgia Tech
CUSA - UCF (First G5 school chosen)
*All PAC schools are off the board

Round 5:
CUSA - USF
Sun Belt - Wake Forest
MAC - Iowa State
MWC - Boise State
AAC - Rutgers
PAC - Nevada
ACC - Cincy
XII - CSU
B1G - Purdue
SEC - Houston
*All ACC/B1G schools are off the board

Round 6:

SEC - Memphis
B1G - KSU
XII - Baylor
ACC - UConn
PAC - SD State
AAC - Temple
MWC - BYU
MAC - Miami (OH)
Sun Belt - ECU
CUSA - UAB
*All XII schools are off the board

Round 7:

CUSA - Tulane
Sun Belt - Navy
MAC - WKU
MWC - Fresno State
AAC - Buffalo
PAC - Hawaii
ACC - Marshall
XII - New Mexico
B1G - No. Illinois
SEC - Tulsa
*All AAC schools off the board

Round 8:

SEC - Charlotte
B1G - Ohio
XII - Utah State
ACC - Midd Tennessee
PAC - UNLV
AAC - UMass
MWC - Wyoming
MAC - Western Michigan
Sun Belt - Old Dominion
CUSA - Southern Miss

Round 9:

CUSA - Ark State
Sun Belt - LA Tech
MAC - Toledo
MWC - Air Force
AAC - Army
PAC - Idaho
ACC - App State
XII - UTEP
B1G - Bowling Green
SEC - Liberty

Round 10:

SEC - Coastal Carolina
B1G - Ball State
XII - Texas State
ACC - Troy
PAC - Montana (First FCS school taken)
AAC - Deleware
MWC - San Jose State
MAC - Central Michigan
Sun Belt - Rice
CUSA - Georgia Southern
*All MWC schools are off the board
* The P5 are done choosing schools

Round 11:

CUSA - S Alabama
Sun Belt - Georgia State
MAC - Northern Iowa
MWC - New Mexico State
AAC - Akron

Round 12:

AAC - Jame Madison
MWC - North Dakota State
MAC - South Dakota State
Sun Belt - Louisiana Lafayette
CUSA - FIU

Round 13:

CUSA - UL Monroe
Sun Belt - FAU
MAC - Missouri State
MWC - N Texas
AAC - E. Michigan

Round 14:

AAC - Maine
MWC - UTSA
MAC - Illinois State
Sun Belt - Wofford
CUSA - Kennesaw State

SEC
Bama
Florida
LSU
Georgia
Tenn
UK
Miss St
TCU
Houston
Memphis
Tulsa
Charolette
Liberty
Coastal Carolina

B1G
OSU
UM
Wisc
PSU
Iowa
Nebraska
MSU
NW
Purdue
KSU
No Illinois
Ohio
Bowling Green
Ball State

XII
Texas
OU
Kansas
Texas Tech
A&M
Arkansas
Mizz
Ok St
CSU
Baylor
New Mexico
Utah State
UTEP
Texas State

ACC
Clemson
FSU
UNC
Duke
Louisville
Vanderbilt
BC
Cuse
Cincy
Uconn
Marshall
Middle Tennessee
App State
Troy

Pac
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Stanford
Arizona
Cal
Colorado
WSU
Nevada
SD State
Hawaii
UNLV
Idaho
Montana

AAC
VT
Maryland
WVU
Pitt
Rutgers
Temple
Buffalo
Umass
Army
Delaware
Akron
James Madison
E. Michigan
Maine

MWC
Wash
Utah
ASU
Ore St
Boise
BYU
Fresno
Wyoming
Air Force
San Jose State
N Mexico State
No. Dakota State
N. Texas
UTSA

MAC
ND
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa St
Minnesota
Miami (OH)
WKU
W. Michigan
Toledo
C. Michigan
Kent State
So. Dakota State
Mizz State
Illinois State

Sun Belt
Auburn
Miami
Ole Miss
G Tech
Wake
ECU
Navy
ODU
La Tech
Rice
Georgia State
Louis Lafayette
FAU
Wofford

CUSA
UVA
S Carolina
NC State
UCF
USF
UAB
Tulane
S. Miss
Ark State
Georgia Southern
S. Alabama
FIU
UL Monroe
Kennesaw State

(05-13-2019 04:38 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(05-13-2019 04:35 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-13-2019 04:30 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  This is cool and all but shouldn’t it say...

P6 -> G4 -> FCS ?

Nobody will be happy because it's a restriction, but I also don't want a runaway slop scenario where with the first pick in the draft C-USA selects Alabama either. You want the final configurations to at least be semi-plausible I'd think. (And Alabama in the AAC is also one of those things that would suspend disbelief.) I think you'll find in the AAC the name of the game will be playing into the P5, since it is home of the tastiest teams to expand with within the G5.

So when the Big 10’s first move is to kick Rutgers and no G4 conference wants them do they drop to FCS?

Love when our butthurt former Big East brethren whine about us. We'll just cry ourselves to sleep on our pile of money. Enjoy being the Rutgers of the ACC.

(05-13-2019 07:26 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  To mimic an expansion draft, in think each conference ought to be able to protect X number of teams. I think 5 is a good number.

Snake draft or traditional?

I also think the act of dumping a current member entitles you to pick someone up in the same move. Think of it as releasing a player to open up a roster spot to sign a rookie.

Should a conference that loses an unprotected team be granted a compensatory pick before the start of the next round?

Agreed at protecting teams.

Traditional draft, we're seeding against current competitive advantage.

How about as a compromise .... if you're down a member from being poached twice in one round, you can drop a current member and be granted a compensatory extra pick immediately.

(05-13-2019 07:26 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  To mimic an expansion draft, in think each conference ought to be able to protect X number of teams. I think 5 is a good number.

Snake draft or traditional?

I also think the act of dumping a current member entitles you to pick someone up in the same move. Think of it as releasing a player to open up a roster spot to sign a rookie.

Should a conference that loses an unprotected team be granted a compensatory pick before the start of the next round?

Having mulled it over more ...

I could go with compensatory draft picks after each poaching but we'd need more restrictions. You don't want infinite circles where you raid, they raid back the same thing, you raid it back again, etc.

Perhaps .... a team that was just drafted cannot be moved until (current round + 2)?

(05-13-2019 07:41 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-13-2019 07:26 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  To mimic an expansion draft, in think each conference ought to be able to protect X number of teams. I think 5 is a good number.

Snake draft or traditional?

I also think the act of dumping a current member entitles you to pick someone up in the same move. Think of it as releasing a player to open up a roster spot to sign a rookie.

Should a conference that loses an unprotected team be granted a compensatory pick before the start of the next round?

Agreed at protecting teams.

Traditional draft, we're seeding against current competitive advantage.

How about as a compromise .... if you're down a member from being poached twice in one round, you can drop a current member and be granted a compensatory extra pick immediately.

Sounds like good terms. The P5 are naturally going to get bled in the opening salvos.

Where do you stand on unprotected teams once they're drafted? If the MAC drafts ND in round 1 are they theirs to keep or can the ACC turn around and draft them out from under them?

How big is the protected list?

(05-13-2019 07:55 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Sounds like good terms. The P5 are naturally going to get bled in the opening salvos.

Where do you stand on unprotected teams once they're drafted? If the MAC drafts ND in round 1 are they theirs to keep or can the ACC turn around and draft them out from under them?

How big is the protected list?

Not so much @ P5 bleeding. Remember, you can only pick in your peer group or lower. So P5 can pick anything. G5 can pick G5 or FCS. FCS can pick FCS. Regarding redrafting ... I think infinite redrafts are fine, but there should be a cool off. See my post just a moment ago where I spitballed that.

We’re open to P5 conferences.

(05-13-2019 07:53 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-13-2019 07:26 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  To mimic an expansion draft, in think each conference ought to be able to protect X number of teams. I think 5 is a good number.

Snake draft or traditional?

I also think the act of dumping a current member entitles you to pick someone up in the same move. Think of it as releasing a player to open up a roster spot to sign a rookie.

Should a conference that loses an unprotected team be granted a compensatory pick before the start of the next round?

Having mulled it over more ...

I could go with compensatory draft picks after each poaching but we'd need more restrictions. You don't want infinite circles where you raid, they raid back the same thing, you raid it back again, etc.

Perhaps .... a team that was just drafted cannot be moved until (current round + 2)?

We could just avoid compensatory picks all together by having each league protect 5 teams and draft 7.

No steals. You draft them and they are yours.

At then end everyone should have 12 teams which makes for good apples to apples comparisons when we are done. That is of course someone trades a team for multiple draft picks at some point in which case at the very end if you have less than 12 you can grab undrafted free agents.

(05-13-2019 08:08 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  We could just avoid compensatory picks all together by having each league protect 5 teams and draft 7.

No steals. You draft them and they are yours.

At then end everyone should have 12 teams which makes for good apples to apples comparisons when we are done. That is of course someone trades a team for multiple draft picks at some point in which case at the very end if you have less than 12 you can grab undrafted free agents.

I like that. I can go with that.