(05-15-2019 10:02 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Griggs had horrible accuracy, just barely better than Keon Howard. He wasn't going to take us anywhere. Abraham is considerably better.

What metric do you look at to draw your conclusion? Completion percentage alone? You do understand there are things called touchdowns and ints, and QBs throw them. You also realize there are things called fumbles, certainly. Surety, you remember Keon having 4-5 fumbles / ints a game with barely any TDs. Jack wasnt too far off. Griggs did not have all those turnovers. Additionally, he had a lot of TD passes compared to the ints. In fact, 16 toucdown passes, to only 2 interceptions. But you think that Griggs was barely better than Keon and considerably worse than Jack, despite the TD/Int ratio of these guys. Weird.

Id rather my Qb have 50% completion percentage and throw 20 tds, 0 ints and 0 fumbles, than throw 90% completion percent with 5 Tds, 8 fumbles and 20 ints. Thats just me though.

(05-15-2019 11:08 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 10:02 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Griggs had horrible accuracy, just barely better than Keon Howard. He wasn't going to take us anywhere. Abraham is considerably better.

What metric do you look at to draw your conclusion? Completion percentage alone? You do understand there are things called touchdowns and ints, and QBs throw them. You also realize there are things called fumbles, certainly. Surety, you remember Keon having 4-5 fumbles / ints a game with barely any TDs. Jack wasnt too far off. Griggs did not have all those turnovers. Additionally, he had a lot of TD passes compared to the ints. In fact, 16 toucdown passes, to only 2 interceptions. But you think that Griggs was barely better than Keon and considerably worse than Jack, despite the TD/Int ratio of these guys. Weird.

Id rather my Qb have 50% completion percentage and throw 20 tds, 0 ints and 0 fumbles, than throw 90% completion percent with 5 Tds, 8 fumbles and 20 ints. Thats just me though.

^this. Completion percentage isn’t that important when you have zero deep pass threat. We have some of the fastest wideouts we’ve had in a long time. Talented too. Imagine if we could throw downfield and not base our pass game of a glorified pitch.

I won’t argue whether Jack is good or not, I’ll only say that Favre could have been back there and looked awful this past year. Our o-line was just bad.

(05-17-2019 12:36 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  I won’t argue whether Jack is good or not, I’ll only say that Favre could have been back there and looked awful this past year. Our o-line was just bad.

Jack looked bad because defenses KNEW we couldn't run the ball and knew we couldn't pass protect worth a damn. They stacked the box and begged us to throw. Kyler Murray could've been our QB last year and would've looked terrible because we couldn't run the ball.

Running the ball opens everything up. Gotta run the ball better. You do that and the safeties/lb/corners start biting and you hit them w/ the play action.