https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...175463001/

There may be some other issues, but basically a Harvard professor has been removed as a dean of a residential college because he is serving as lawyer for Harvey Weinstein.

"...Sullivan, a prominent defense attorney nationally, had garnered calls for removal from Winthrop residents and other Harvard students who objected to his work for Weinstein, whose alleged actions helped ignite the #MeToo movement. At organized protests in recent months, students held signs that read,“Down with the Dean,” “Remove Sullivan” and “Harvard’s Legacy Ignoring Survivors.”

Sullivan had defended his work for Weinstein by touting due process for everyone, decrying the country’s “long history of mob justice” and arguing that it’s even more important that “unpopular, vile, or undesirable” defendants have their rights...."

I imagine they will try to get him removed as a tenured professor if he wins.

(05-12-2019 07:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...175463001/

There may be some other issues, but basically a Harvard professor has been removed as a dean of a residential college because he is serving as lawyer for Harvey Weinstein.

"...Sullivan, a prominent defense attorney nationally, had garnered calls for removal from Winthrop residents and other Harvard students who objected to his work for Weinstein, whose alleged actions helped ignite the #MeToo movement. At organized protests in recent months, students held signs that read,“Down with the Dean,” “Remove Sullivan” and “Harvard’s Legacy Ignoring Survivors.”

Sullivan had defended his work for Weinstein by touting due process for everyone, decrying the country’s “long history of mob justice” and arguing that it’s even more important that “unpopular, vile, or undesirable” defendants have their rights...."

I imagine they will try to get him removed as a tenured professor if he wins.

Insanity, by design.

(05-12-2019 09:15 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 07:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...175463001/

There may be some other issues, but basically a Harvard professor has been removed as a dean of a residential college because he is serving as lawyer for Harvey Weinstein.

"...Sullivan, a prominent defense attorney nationally, had garnered calls for removal from Winthrop residents and other Harvard students who objected to his work for Weinstein, whose alleged actions helped ignite the #MeToo movement. At organized protests in recent months, students held signs that read,“Down with the Dean,” “Remove Sullivan” and “Harvard’s Legacy Ignoring Survivors.”

Sullivan had defended his work for Weinstein by touting due process for everyone, decrying the country’s “long history of mob justice” and arguing that it’s even more important that “unpopular, vile, or undesirable” defendants have their rights...."

I imagine they will try to get him removed as a tenured professor if he wins.

Insanity, by design.

had I made that life choice, it would've been difficult to be a defense lawyer from a internal perspective....however, had I made that choice, I would've dealt with that as the structure/code of ethics mandated....

this is as disturbing as it gets when it comes to what liberal organizations - be it politics/msm/learning institutions - have become in my lifetime...

(05-12-2019 09:22 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 09:15 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 07:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...175463001/

There may be some other issues, but basically a Harvard professor has been removed as a dean of a residential college because he is serving as lawyer for Harvey Weinstein.

"...Sullivan, a prominent defense attorney nationally, had garnered calls for removal from Winthrop residents and other Harvard students who objected to his work for Weinstein, whose alleged actions helped ignite the #MeToo movement. At organized protests in recent months, students held signs that read,“Down with the Dean,” “Remove Sullivan” and “Harvard’s Legacy Ignoring Survivors.”

Sullivan had defended his work for Weinstein by touting due process for everyone, decrying the country’s “long history of mob justice” and arguing that it’s even more important that “unpopular, vile, or undesirable” defendants have their rights...."

I imagine they will try to get him removed as a tenured professor if he wins.

Insanity, by design.

had I made that life choice, it would've been difficult to be a defense lawyer from a internal perspective....however, had I made that choice, I would've dealt with that as the structure/code of ethics mandated....

this is as disturbing as it gets when it comes to what liberal organizations - be it politics/msm/learning institutions - have become in my lifetime...

Indeed, I'd have a hard time reconciling my personal moral compass with defending someone I knew was guilty just so I could uphold the ostensible impartiality of the law. Of course my moral compass tends to wander off true north at times so...

(05-12-2019 12:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Indeed, I'd have a hard time reconciling my personal moral compass with defending someone I knew was guilty just so I could uphold the ostensible impartiality of the law. Of course my moral compass tends to wander off true north at times so...

As lawyers, we are trained that our moral compass should point squarely toward maintaining the integrity of our legal system, which requires providing counsel even to the worst of criminals.

The Nazis would be proud.

Very dangerous

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(05-12-2019 12:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 12:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Indeed, I'd have a hard time reconciling my personal moral compass with defending someone I knew was guilty just so I could uphold the ostensible impartiality of the law. Of course my moral compass tends to wander off true north at times so...

As lawyers, we are trained that our moral compass should point squarely toward maintaining the integrity of our legal system, which requires providing counsel even to the worst of criminals.

A lawyer friend of mine defended a guy that committed a rape/murder of an elderly couple here in my hometown. He got some flack for defending the POS. All he had to say was "If I do everything in my power... and by the book.. to defend this guy and he is still convicted?...I will sleep well knowing he will never be a threat to anyone again. He won't be set free on an appeal because I made sure the State did it's job." That is pretty much how the system is supposed to work IMO.

(05-12-2019 02:18 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 12:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 12:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Indeed, I'd have a hard time reconciling my personal moral compass with defending someone I knew was guilty just so I could uphold the ostensible impartiality of the law. Of course my moral compass tends to wander off true north at times so...

As lawyers, we are trained that our moral compass should point squarely toward maintaining the integrity of our legal system, which requires providing counsel even to the worst of criminals.

A lawyer friend of mine defended a guy that committed a rape/murder of an elderly couple here in my hometown. He got some flack for defending the POS. All he had to say was "If I do everything in my power... and by the book.. to defend this guy and he is still convicted?...I will sleep well knowing he will never be a threat to anyone again. He won't be set free on an appeal because I made sure the State did it's job." That is pretty much how the system is supposed to work IMO.

if it didn't work that way, the lawyer would then become the judge w/o a jury...

(05-12-2019 12:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 12:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Indeed, I'd have a hard time reconciling my personal moral compass with defending someone I knew was guilty just so I could uphold the ostensible impartiality of the law. Of course my moral compass tends to wander off true north at times so...

As lawyers, we are trained that our moral compass should point squarely toward maintaining the integrity of our legal system, which requires providing counsel even to the worst of criminals.

This is why law is a dangerous profession to get into. Once you start altering your moral compass, where do you stop?

(05-12-2019 12:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 09:22 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 09:15 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-12-2019 07:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...175463001/

There may be some other issues, but basically a Harvard professor has been removed as a dean of a residential college because he is serving as lawyer for Harvey Weinstein.

"...Sullivan, a prominent defense attorney nationally, had garnered calls for removal from Winthrop residents and other Harvard students who objected to his work for Weinstein, whose alleged actions helped ignite the #MeToo movement. At organized protests in recent months, students held signs that read,“Down with the Dean,” “Remove Sullivan” and “Harvard’s Legacy Ignoring Survivors.”

Sullivan had defended his work for Weinstein by touting due process for everyone, decrying the country’s “long history of mob justice” and arguing that it’s even more important that “unpopular, vile, or undesirable” defendants have their rights...."

I imagine they will try to get him removed as a tenured professor if he wins.

Insanity, by design.

had I made that life choice, it would've been difficult to be a defense lawyer from a internal perspective....however, had I made that choice, I would've dealt with that as the structure/code of ethics mandated....

this is as disturbing as it gets when it comes to what liberal organizations - be it politics/msm/learning institutions - have become in my lifetime...

Indeed, I'd have a hard time reconciling my personal moral compass with defending someone I knew was guilty just so I could uphold the ostensible impartiality of the law. Of course my moral compass tends to wander off true north at times so...

I wouldn't know 'anything' about 'that'...