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The FLO deal was going to happen. JMU insisted on that caveat if we HAD to have FLO. You REALLY think JMU said WE DEMAND REGIONAL TV OPTIONS and the league said “oh damn, guess we have to use FLO”?
12-22-2020 09:53 AM
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And I love how you think JMU fans don’t read any of these press releases. Thanks for coming over and sharing this super-secret info. We’re all very grateful for you to inform and correct us.
12-22-2020 09:54 AM
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(12-22-2020 09:53 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  The FLO deal was going to happen. JMU insisted on that caveat if we HAD to have FLO. You REALLY think JMU said WE DEMAND REGIONAL TV OPTIONS and the league said “oh damn, guess we have to use FLO”?

Yes, asbolutely. Along with a few other schools i'm sure. FLO was just the only "online only" platform that didn't care about regular tv distribution. The income was a pittance if it were distributed amongst all the schools in the conference.

IMO, it was a horrible deal all around, but it was not done to help or appease the JMU underlings in the CAA. I can promise you the average athletic budgets and overall budgets in the CAA far exceed those in the SoCon, which is made up of mostly much smaller schools mostly in North Carolina and South Carolina and they took the ESPN+ deal. So the minimal income or requirement to have better production was not the driving force driving this deal. In hindsight, I hope everyone is seeing that the ESPN+ route is far better for the CAA, but this non stop bashing of every other CAA school by JMU fans is nonsense.

Furman just dropped baseball due to budget cuts. Baseball.
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(12-22-2020 09:54 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  And I love how you think JMU fans don’t read any of these press releases. Thanks for coming over and sharing this super-secret info. We’re all very grateful for you to inform and correct us.

You asked for sources, you got them. Never said they were super secret or that I was sharing anything super secret. Seems to me if this was so public, you'd have already understood what drove this decision to choose Flo over ESPN+. Apparently you didn't.
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You’re a moron. You’ve created an alternate reality with assumptions that aren’t based on ANY facts. Congrats.
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Why did JMU vote against the FLO deal while everyone else voted in favor? Can your alternate reality reconcile that fact?
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Flo sports was and is bad for JMU, that’s why the institution voted against it.

Flo sports was also a short-sighted decision by the other CAA schools. All for a few bucks.

The superior vehicle for online delivery of content would have been ESPN+ and I hope a change can be made before the Flo contract is extended.
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(12-22-2020 03:40 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Flo sports was and is bad for JMU, that’s why the institution voted against it.

Flo sports was also a short-sighted decision by the other CAA schools. All for a few bucks.

The superior vehicle for online delivery of content would have been ESPN+ and I hope a change can be made before the Flo contract is extended.

Only 3.5 years left on contract.
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(12-22-2020 04:13 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 03:40 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Flo sports was and is bad for JMU, that’s why the institution voted against it.

Flo sports was also a short-sighted decision by the other CAA schools. All for a few bucks.

The superior vehicle for online delivery of content would have been ESPN+ and I hope a change can be made before the Flo contract is extended.

Only 3.5 years left on contract.

4 year deal. After this season there will be 2 years left.
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(12-22-2020 03:40 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Flo sports was and is bad for JMU, that’s why the institution voted against it.

Flo sports was also a short-sighted decision by the other CAA schools. All for a few bucks.

The superior vehicle for online delivery of content would have been ESPN+ and I hope a change can be made before the Flo contract is extended.

Do we have any strong relationships in the CAA?
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It looks like UNCW fans are starting to realize what a bum deal this was, and trying to rationalize that JMU somehow contributed to the poor decision.

We don't have to speculate in this case, JB was clear in his November newsletter

Quote: I've hinted at this previously but in full transparency, James Madison did not (and still does not) support FloSports as the best option to meet the league's streaming needs. JMU was the lone dissenting vote. We had a platform available for free to our fans, and we were able to cover our costs via sponsorship elements within the broadcast. I'm not thrilled that our fans must pay ( $12.50 on a month-to-month basis or $7.99 per month with annual subscription ) to watch our events during a time when attendance is restricted. However, we are part of a conference and sometimes must abide by decisions made by the majority that might not be best for one institution.
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Where’d that dope go? He was really excited to scream his conspiracy theory over here and lecture us. Ask him why we voted against the deal & he suddenly got REALLY busy and can’t respond.
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(12-23-2020 08:24 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  It looks like UNCW fans are starting to realize what a bum deal this was, and trying to rationalize that JMU somehow contributed to the poor decision.

We don't have to speculate in this case, JB was clear in his November newsletter

Quote: I've hinted at this previously but in full transparency, James Madison did not (and still does not) support FloSports as the best option to meet the league's streaming needs. JMU was the lone dissenting vote. We had a platform available for free to our fans, and we were able to cover our costs via sponsorship elements within the broadcast. I'm not thrilled that our fans must pay ( $12.50 on a month-to-month basis or $7.99 per month with annual subscription ) to watch our events during a time when attendance is restricted. However, we are part of a conference and sometimes must abide by decisions made by the majority that might not be best for one institution.

UNCW fans have never liked the deal, please see our boards for confirmation. We are now expected to pay $12.50/month plus tax...so $13ish/month...for the same service that was previously free. We do not take advantage of the local TV option either for some reason and we are not getting any financial benefit since the money is going to pay for CBS Sports Net GOTW package.

So UNCW has completely sacrificed availability of games outside of the most hardcore fans to get 1 or 2 games on CBS Sports Network. While the Flo sports made sense on paper, compared to the ESPN deal, in practice its awful.
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(12-23-2020 10:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 08:24 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  It looks like UNCW fans are starting to realize what a bum deal this was, and trying to rationalize that JMU somehow contributed to the poor decision.

We don't have to speculate in this case, JB was clear in his November newsletter

Quote: I've hinted at this previously but in full transparency, James Madison did not (and still does not) support FloSports as the best option to meet the league's streaming needs. JMU was the lone dissenting vote. We had a platform available for free to our fans, and we were able to cover our costs via sponsorship elements within the broadcast. I'm not thrilled that our fans must pay ( $12.50 on a month-to-month basis or $7.99 per month with annual subscription ) to watch our events during a time when attendance is restricted. However, we are part of a conference and sometimes must abide by decisions made by the majority that might not be best for one institution.

UNCW fans have never liked the deal, please see our boards for confirmation. We are now expected to pay $12.50/month plus tax...so $13ish/month...for the same service that was previously free. We do not take advantage of the local TV option either for some reason and we are not getting any financial benefit since the money is going to pay for CBS Sports Net GOTW package.

So UNCW has completely sacrificed availability of games outside of the most hardcore fans to get 1 or 2 games on CBS Sports Network. While the Flo sports made sense on paper, compared to the ESPN deal, in practice its awful.

Apparently your administration liked the plan since they voted for it. 03-drunk

Is this the same admin that drove Brad Brownell out of town? 03-lmfao
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(12-23-2020 10:44 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 10:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 08:24 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  It looks like UNCW fans are starting to realize what a bum deal this was, and trying to rationalize that JMU somehow contributed to the poor decision.

We don't have to speculate in this case, JB was clear in his November newsletter

Quote: I've hinted at this previously but in full transparency, James Madison did not (and still does not) support FloSports as the best option to meet the league's streaming needs. JMU was the lone dissenting vote. We had a platform available for free to our fans, and we were able to cover our costs via sponsorship elements within the broadcast. I'm not thrilled that our fans must pay ( $12.50 on a month-to-month basis or $7.99 per month with annual subscription ) to watch our events during a time when attendance is restricted. However, we are part of a conference and sometimes must abide by decisions made by the majority that might not be best for one institution.

UNCW fans have never liked the deal, please see our boards for confirmation. We are now expected to pay $12.50/month plus tax...so $13ish/month...for the same service that was previously free. We do not take advantage of the local TV option either for some reason and we are not getting any financial benefit since the money is going to pay for CBS Sports Net GOTW package.

So UNCW has completely sacrificed availability of games outside of the most hardcore fans to get 1 or 2 games on CBS Sports Network. While the Flo sports made sense on paper, compared to the ESPN deal, in practice its awful.

Apparently your administration liked the plan since they voted for it. 03-drunk

Is this the same admin that drove Brad Brownell out of town? 03-lmfao

If you did a blind resume of the two proposals from ESPN and Flo, the Flo plan is better. The problem is the intangible ESPN factor in relation to college sports. If you're not on ESPN you don't exist. Look at CUSA when they left ESPN. The Sunbelt's rise correlates with CUSA leaving ESPN as the Sunbelt filled that gap.

During the CAA's glory years we were very much in line with ESPN and even had a great Monday night primetime slot for our championship game on the main ESPN. You could even argue ESPN created the brackbusters event with the CAA as a foundational conference.

When the CAA left ESPN we lost that infusion of support they can provide which is incredibly difficult to quantify on a spreadsheet or deal proposal. Continuing to stay away from ESPN is not helping anyone. Sadly your administration seems to be the only one to recognize this.
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