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Again, liberalism is a mental illness
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(08-14-2019 06:33 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  So it turns out that the actor Danny Glover — hardcore Leftist is he — went to George Washington High School, and has said (in response to this controversy) that “Art is supposed to make people feel uncomfortable. That’s what art is for.”

That's great news! So right to carry states are really promoting art since it makes so many uncomfortable! I want liberals to defend my right to carry my art!
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(05-03-2019 11:07 AM)No Bull Wrote:  or replace Washington with this hero

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She's really more of an ax murderess!
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(08-14-2019 06:40 PM)450bench Wrote:  Again, liberalism is a mental illness
There is a book, first published in 1964, by the American author James Burnham. The full title of the book is “Suicide of the West: An Essay on the Meaning and Destiny of Liberalism.”

The basic gist of the book is that Liberalism (of the American variety) represents the idea that Western Civilization has served its purpose and is “now” (1960s) being eclipsed/overtaken by a mixture of anti-Western and non-Western ideas and movements. Liberalism is the vehicle by which the members of Western nations/societies can (and should) be reconciled to that fate, and accept it.

Burnham (1905-1987) was raised Catholic in an upper/middle class family in the Chicago area. He became an atheist/communist while in college (a familiar story!) and was actually a leader in various pro-communist, pro-Soviet US organizations throughout the 1930s. Later, though, in 1940, he broke away from Marxism/Socialism and became a prominent critic of those movements. He was an important member of the writing/editorial team assembled by William F. Buckley in 1955 when National Review magazine was getting started.
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(08-14-2019 07:40 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 06:40 PM)450bench Wrote:  Again, liberalism is a mental illness
There is a book, first published in 1964, by the American author James Burnham. The full title of the book is “Suicide of the West: An Essay on the Meaning and Destiny of Liberalism.”

The basic gist of the book is that Liberalism (of the American variety) represents the idea that Western Civilization has served its purpose and is “now” (1960s) being eclipsed/overtaken by a mixture of anti-Western and non-Western ideas and movements. Liberalism is the vehicle by which the members of Western nations/societies can (and should) be reconciled to that fate, and accept it.

Burnham (1905-1987) was raised Catholic in an upper/middle class family in the Chicago area. He became an atheist/communist while in college (a familiar story!) and was actually a leader in various pro-communist, pro-Soviet US organizations throughout the 1930s. Later, though, in 1940, he broke away from Marxism/Socialism and became a prominent critic of those movements. He was an important member of the writing/editorial team assembled by William F. Buckley in 1955 when National Review magazine was getting started.

Age has a way of making you reject two religions. The religion of religion (quite different from faith) and the religion of politics. In the 30's through half of the 60's experiencing the rejection of those religions and remaining healthy and respected enough to seriously offer critique on both was still possible. People were interested in the pilgrimages of others. Now you would merely be the enemy of both, and labeled too unsteady to be trusted for what you had learned in your journey.

What has really happened is that the wisdom of those who have seriously weighed and abandoned unproductive models in life for ones that seem to them to be more productive, if not private, are totally discounted for their adaptation, critique, and learning.

We seem destined to remain locked into adolescent exuberance for cliche and failed models of conduct because those who desire to shape us fear the critique of experience whether you have been a liberal in the old sense, or a conservative in the old sense, or one who has abandoned the religion of religion and/or the religion of politics for the faith of what you know to be true and productive, and hopeful. And that is how the West is dying. It's dying for lack of faith in our adaptability, our innovation, and the lack of faith in each other and it is intentionally truncating experience for certification and revenue and intentionally discounting the wisdom of the aging. What modern systems fear is the collective memory that gently prods the abandonment of failed concepts both civil and corporate, for more mature, integrated, and relational models which innovations threaten the control the entrenched have over models that are predicated on the exploitation of certain failure.
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It's only confederate monuments we want to tear down they said...

yeah, that's a slippery slope we said...

NOOOO, we just want the civil war demons exorcised they said...
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(05-03-2019 08:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  I agree that, in a vacuum, it is asinine.

However, the article linked is terribly misleading in that is implies the paining is just a "mural of Washington" that is causing problems.

The source article explains it's more of a life timeline painting which depicts many events over the life of Washington.
https://richmondsfblog.com/2019/04/09/hi...americans/

Still don't see the issue, but it is at least not as ridiculous as the idea it is simply a portrait of George's mug.

[Image: WashMural-700x467.jpg]

You should have stopped at "it is asinine".

The lefts penchant for applying today's woke standards to historical figures and historical events is asinine.................but somehow, I don't see this lunacy stopping any time soon.
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(08-15-2019 07:41 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(05-03-2019 08:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  I agree that, in a vacuum, it is asinine.

However, the article linked is terribly misleading in that is implies the paining is just a "mural of Washington" that is causing problems.

The source article explains it's more of a life timeline painting which depicts many events over the life of Washington.
https://richmondsfblog.com/2019/04/09/hi...americans/

Still don't see the issue, but it is at least not as ridiculous as the idea it is simply a portrait of George's mug.

[Image: WashMural-700x467.jpg]

You should have stopped at "it is asinine".

The lefts penchant for applying today's woke standards to historical figures and historical events is asinine.................but somehow, I don't see this lunacy stopping any time soon.

How long before it goes to Honest Abe? He was racist and wanted to send the former slaves back to Africa. He encouraged the shipment of them back to Liberia.
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(08-14-2019 06:38 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  They are going to cover it up with pannels, instead of painting over it.

Well at least maybe one day when the crazies are fewer they can maybe take the panels down so the sane people amonst them can view the art without being obnoxiously offended.
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(05-03-2019 08:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  I agree that, in a vacuum, it is asinine.
However, the article linked is terribly misleading in that is implies the paining is just a "mural of Washington" that is causing problems.
The source article explains it's more of a life timeline painting which depicts many events over the life of Washington.
https://richmondsfblog.com/2019/04/09/hi...americans/
Still don't see the issue, but it is at least not as ridiculous as the idea it is simply a portrait of George's mug.
[Image: WashMural-700x467.jpg]

Actually it is just as ridiculous. The only reason that his mug means anything is because of the life events in which he participated.
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(08-15-2019 09:41 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 06:38 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  They are going to cover it up with pannels, instead of painting over it.

Well at least maybe one day when the crazies are fewer they can maybe take the panels down so the sane people amonst them can view the art without being obnoxiously offended.

Not going to happen in San Francisco. That place is ground zero for all the moronic of activities of Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsome and Kamala Harris in the Land of Fruits and Nuts.

Next they’ll be complaining that the mere thought of something bad behind the panels makes the situation difficult for them to deal with.
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(08-15-2019 12:30 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 09:41 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 06:38 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  They are going to cover it up with pannels, instead of painting over it.

Well at least maybe one day when the crazies are fewer they can maybe take the panels down so the sane people amonst them can view the art without being obnoxiously offended.

Not going to happen in San Francisco. That place is ground zero for all the moronic of activities of Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsome and Kamala Harris in the Land of Fruits and Nuts.

Next they’ll be complaining that the mere thought of something bad behind the panels makes the situation difficult for them to deal with.

Probably right but I figured once the leftys chase out all those that don't agree with them they will simply turn on themselves until they themselves are insignificant. Then, those with some sense can return. Maybe just a dream, but.........
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https://townhall.com/columnists/williamm...e-n2551713

"...Buttigieg’s comment precisely turns the issue on its head. We honor the great figures from our history for their accomplishments during the times in which they lived for lasting contributions they made to the preservation and advancement of our nation. They operated within a framework of what was considered morally acceptable in our society at that time, just as we operate within the framework of what our society considers morally acceptable today. Our honor of them does not “evolve” over time, based upon shifting societal norms, as though we expect them to have possessed some kind of preternatural foresight of what their society would consider “acceptable” 240 years later....


I want to offer this mental exercise to those who wish to condemn American giants like Thomas Jefferson and blather on about reparations over practices that took place in our country over two centuries ago: Place yourself into a hypothetical time machine, dial it to the year 2119, and find out what Americans have decided is an odious practice in Future America. I predict that you will find that abortion – that practice in which doctors punch a hole in the skull of a baby in the womb, vacuum out its grey matter, crush the skull, dismember the baby’s body, and extract the parts from its mother’s womb – has been deemed by society to be an outrageous, barbaric practice.


Americans who are down for that procedure, which includes virtually all Democratic politicians today, may find that society has decided they were ogres and, regardless of any great accomplishments they achieved in other fields of endeavor, condemn them as we do slave owners today. Americans may insist that statues of them be torn down, streets named after them be rechristened (as it were), and that any vestige of their existence be expunged from our national memory.

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(05-03-2019 08:36 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  I agree that, in a vacuum, it is asinine.

However, the article linked is terribly misleading in that is implies the paining is just a "mural of Washington" that is causing problems.

The source article explains it's more of a life timeline painting which depicts many events over the life of Washington.
https://richmondsfblog.com/2019/04/09/hi...americans/

Still don't see the issue, but it is at least not as ridiculous as the idea it is simply a portrait of George's mug.

[Image: WashMural-700x467.jpg]
I see a mural of Americans fighting the British for their freedom. A picture like this to a leftist, is like a cross to a Vampire.
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When schools indoctrinate people to hate all that is America this is to be expected.
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