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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-02-2019 06:44 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 07:18 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Kill the Bowls. Full Blown 24 team playoff (conference champs of all 10 leagues qualify) just like FCS.

That would be more fun it would be like March Madness during the Christmas season. The NFL playoff seems to work pretty well also. I just don’t understand how the FCS, D2/3, NFL, CFL, College Baseball, College Basketball, and all the other college sports can have playoffs, as it is seemed as impossible to do at the FBS level. :)

Especially of the "horror" of cutting into the academic calendar by moving the playoff an additional week into January to accommodate another round in the playoff.

For those poor two teams that are forced to prepare for a championship game 1 week later and forgo studying on the first weekend of Spring Semester....

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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-02-2019 12:16 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 10:35 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  NY10: Rose, LV, Cotton, Alamo, Sugar, Peach, Gator, Citrus, Orange.

All FBS champs go to an access bowl. Top 16 access for independents.

7-5 record required to be bowl eligible but interpreted liberally so if you average as a conference 6.1 seven win teams you can have 7 slots. 6-6 teams then get picked in accordance with APR.

I'm okay with a few access bowls on New Years Day and such for the other 4 G5 conference champions that don't make it in the playoff, but no new bowl games and I feel like 8 is the perfect playoff amount to maintain regular season importance and a playoff that isn't too long. I just think the importance of regular season is greatly diminished with 16 teams.

An 8 team playoff should consist of a Rose, Sugar, Cotton, Orange, Fiesta, Peach, College Football Championship (rotation among sites) bowls. An 8 team playoff needs 7 games so keep the NY6 (Dec. 29-Jan 1. for QFs, January 5-8 SFs, January 12-15 NC depending on dates).

Oh yes the long standing NY6 tradition going back to 2014 cannot be modified.

It must be those very 6 bowls (including a couple that got it over the Holiday and Houston bowl just a few years back) moving forward in perpetuity.
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What would you change to bowl season?
(05-02-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  All non-NY6 bowls are at-large vs at-large. No conference tie-ins.

No team shall appear in the same non-NY6 more than two years in a row.

The process for team selection shall be from the highest payout to the lowest. Highest bowl payout picks first, lowest picks last. In cases where multiple bowls have the same payout then the oldest bowl selects ahead of those that are newer.

If there aren't enough bowl eligible teams then the bowls are allowed to pick any FBS team not on punitive probation to play regardless of record.

All bowls are required to have a minimum payout of $350k per team.

Any proposed new bowl must have a guaranteed payout of at least $500k per team and an over-the-air or cable TV deal in place before certification.

Any bowl taking place outside the United States shall be required to have a guaranteed payout of at least $650k.


I like this, makes sense so it will not happen.


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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-02-2019 07:34 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 12:16 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 10:35 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  NY10: Rose, LV, Cotton, Alamo, Sugar, Peach, Gator, Citrus, Orange.

All FBS champs go to an access bowl. Top 16 access for independents.

7-5 record required to be bowl eligible but interpreted liberally so if you average as a conference 6.1 seven win teams you can have 7 slots. 6-6 teams then get picked in accordance with APR.

I'm okay with a few access bowls on New Years Day and such for the other 4 G5 conference champions that don't make it in the playoff, but no new bowl games and I feel like 8 is the perfect playoff amount to maintain regular season importance and a playoff that isn't too long. I just think the importance of regular season is greatly diminished with 16 teams.

An 8 team playoff should consist of a Rose, Sugar, Cotton, Orange, Fiesta, Peach, College Football Championship (rotation among sites) bowls. An 8 team playoff needs 7 games so keep the NY6 (Dec. 29-Jan 1. for QFs, January 5-8 SFs, January 12-15 NC depending on dates).

Oh yes the long standing NY6 tradition going back to 2014 cannot be modified.

It must be those very 6 bowls (including a couple that got it over the Holiday and Houston bowl just a few years back) moving forward in perpetuity.

I'd love to see the Holiday Bowl or Alamo Bowl as a NY6/BCS/CFP/whatever instead of Fiesta Bowl.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-02-2019 07:24 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
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(05-01-2019 12:44 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Personally, I love the bowl season. One can never get enough college football.

The only thing I'd change is to try and spread out the games throughout the month of December. Last year they didn't start until December 15. The earlier bowls are usually the "smaller" ones, why not start the week after the CCG's? Bids for the NYD games and the CFP would be after the championship games, but why wait for the others? Announce the early games after the end of the regular season which would still give teams 2 weeks or more to prepare. And while they're at it, throw a few "local" games in during the week, would beat watching reruns and Christmas specials.

Army Navy play that weekend so there is football games on

Yes, but a whole weekend of football would be better.

Having the bowls play any earlier than mid-December doesn't provide enough time to schedule 14-16 bowl practices.

Teams only get a weeks' worth of practices between regular season games.

If early bowl matchups were announced right after the final regular season games, that would give those teams not involved in the CCG's at least 10-14 practices for their bowl games.

Might require a bit of schedule tweeking, but it's doable.
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Drop Motor City, Potato, Pinstripe, and Military Bowls. Add additional bowls in Columbia SC, Waco, Lafayette LA, and Fresno(In addition to Los Angeles(Inglewood) and Myrtle Beach).
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-03-2019 12:22 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 07:34 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 12:16 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 10:35 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  NY10: Rose, LV, Cotton, Alamo, Sugar, Peach, Gator, Citrus, Orange.

All FBS champs go to an access bowl. Top 16 access for independents.

7-5 record required to be bowl eligible but interpreted liberally so if you average as a conference 6.1 seven win teams you can have 7 slots. 6-6 teams then get picked in accordance with APR.

I'm okay with a few access bowls on New Years Day and such for the other 4 G5 conference champions that don't make it in the playoff, but no new bowl games and I feel like 8 is the perfect playoff amount to maintain regular season importance and a playoff that isn't too long. I just think the importance of regular season is greatly diminished with 16 teams.

An 8 team playoff should consist of a Rose, Sugar, Cotton, Orange, Fiesta, Peach, College Football Championship (rotation among sites) bowls. An 8 team playoff needs 7 games so keep the NY6 (Dec. 29-Jan 1. for QFs, January 5-8 SFs, January 12-15 NC depending on dates).

Oh yes the long standing NY6 tradition going back to 2014 cannot be modified.

It must be those very 6 bowls (including a couple that got it over the Holiday and Houston bowl just a few years back) moving forward in perpetuity.

I'd love to see the Holiday Bowl or Alamo Bowl as a NY6/BCS/CFP/whatever instead of Fiesta Bowl.

What's the issue with the Fiesta Bowl?

Speaking as someone that lives in the Chicago area, the #1 priority for a vacation during the winter (by far) is excellent weather. I'm not just talking about simply better weather than Chicago (which 90% of America has), but legitimate "walking around in shorts and the sun" excellent weather. On that front, the two best places in the continental United States during that time of year are South Florida and Arizona. If anyone ought to be on the chopping block, it would be the Cotton Bowl and Peach Bowl. Trips to Dallas and Atlanta are meant to be business trips as opposed to winter vacation destinations.

To be sure, San Diego is a fantastic place. That's near the top of the places where I'd want to live if money were no object. However, there's no way that the Holiday Bowl will get any type of NY6 bowl with the stadium situation there. In fact, the Holiday Bowl may not even retain the level of its secondary status because it can't afford to throw money at conferences in the way that places like Las Vegas can. The Alamo Bowl is stronger financially by comparison (which is why it has been able to get the Pac-12 #2 team instead of the Holiday).
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-03-2019 09:26 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-03-2019 12:22 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 07:34 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 12:16 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 10:35 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  NY10: Rose, LV, Cotton, Alamo, Sugar, Peach, Gator, Citrus, Orange.

All FBS champs go to an access bowl. Top 16 access for independents.

7-5 record required to be bowl eligible but interpreted liberally so if you average as a conference 6.1 seven win teams you can have 7 slots. 6-6 teams then get picked in accordance with APR.

I'm okay with a few access bowls on New Years Day and such for the other 4 G5 conference champions that don't make it in the playoff, but no new bowl games and I feel like 8 is the perfect playoff amount to maintain regular season importance and a playoff that isn't too long. I just think the importance of regular season is greatly diminished with 16 teams.

An 8 team playoff should consist of a Rose, Sugar, Cotton, Orange, Fiesta, Peach, College Football Championship (rotation among sites) bowls. An 8 team playoff needs 7 games so keep the NY6 (Dec. 29-Jan 1. for QFs, January 5-8 SFs, January 12-15 NC depending on dates).

Oh yes the long standing NY6 tradition going back to 2014 cannot be modified.

It must be those very 6 bowls (including a couple that got it over the Holiday and Houston bowl just a few years back) moving forward in perpetuity.

I'd love to see the Holiday Bowl or Alamo Bowl as a NY6/BCS/CFP/whatever instead of Fiesta Bowl.

What's the issue with the Fiesta Bowl?

Speaking as someone that lives in the Chicago area, the #1 priority for a vacation during the winter (by far) is excellent weather. I'm not just talking about simply better weather than Chicago (which 90% of America has), but legitimate "walking around in shorts and the sun" excellent weather. On that front, the two best places in the continental United States during that time of year are South Florida and Arizona. If anyone ought to be on the chopping block, it would be the Cotton Bowl and Peach Bowl. Trips to Dallas and Atlanta are meant to be business trips as opposed to winter vacation destinations.

My experience with Phoenix is that you don't get that kind of weather in December/January. What you typically get around January 1st is a high of about 67 degrees and a low in the mid-40s. With plenty of sun, no chance of rain, and a crispness in the air due to the near-complete lack of humidity. Of course there is some variability, but believe it or not it tends to be on the low side. E.g., on January 1st, the high was only 51, while the highest daytime high in all of January was 73.

In other words, absolutely gorgeous weather, but not "tanning yourself on the beach" warmth. Only deep South Florida and Southern California have that.

As for the Fiesta Bowl, because of the gorgeous weather I wish it was still at Sun Devil Stadium rather than the Glendale Mothership where they usually find some reason to keep the roof closed. Also, there is still a stench from the blatant corruption that was exposed at the bowl.

I think many thought the Fiesta Bowl should have lost its "BCS" status then, and were happy when it was knocked down a peg in the CFP, being an "Access" Bowl rather than a more prestigious "Contract" Bowl.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-02-2019 07:24 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 10:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
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(05-01-2019 12:44 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Personally, I love the bowl season. One can never get enough college football.

The only thing I'd change is to try and spread out the games throughout the month of December. Last year they didn't start until December 15. The earlier bowls are usually the "smaller" ones, why not start the week after the CCG's? Bids for the NYD games and the CFP would be after the championship games, but why wait for the others? Announce the early games after the end of the regular season which would still give teams 2 weeks or more to prepare. And while they're at it, throw a few "local" games in during the week, would beat watching reruns and Christmas specials.

Army Navy play that weekend so there is football games on

Yes, but a whole weekend of football would be better.

Having the bowls play any earlier than mid-December doesn't provide enough time to schedule 14-16 bowl practices.

Simple solution: All FBS teams get 15 practice days in December. Three of these can be a "thud" type practice in shells, and three are allowed to be full contact.
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(05-02-2019 10:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
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(05-01-2019 12:44 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Personally, I love the bowl season. One can never get enough college football.

The only thing I'd change is to try and spread out the games throughout the month of December. Last year they didn't start until December 15. The earlier bowls are usually the "smaller" ones, why not start the week after the CCG's? Bids for the NYD games and the CFP would be after the championship games, but why wait for the others? Announce the early games after the end of the regular season which would still give teams 2 weeks or more to prepare. And while they're at it, throw a few "local" games in during the week, would beat watching reruns and Christmas specials.

Army Navy play that weekend so there is football games on


Yes, but a whole weekend of football would be better.

That weekend is still the regular season, so no bowls could be played.

There could be other regular season games.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-03-2019 08:10 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 07:24 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 10:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 06:47 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 12:44 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Personally, I love the bowl season. One can never get enough college football.

The only thing I'd change is to try and spread out the games throughout the month of December. Last year they didn't start until December 15. The earlier bowls are usually the "smaller" ones, why not start the week after the CCG's? Bids for the NYD games and the CFP would be after the championship games, but why wait for the others? Announce the early games after the end of the regular season which would still give teams 2 weeks or more to prepare. And while they're at it, throw a few "local" games in during the week, would beat watching reruns and Christmas specials.

Army Navy play that weekend so there is football games on

Yes, but a whole weekend of football would be better.

Having the bowls play any earlier than mid-December doesn't provide enough time to schedule 14-16 bowl practices.

Teams only get a weeks' worth of practices between regular season games.

If early bowl matchups were announced right after the final regular season games, that would give those teams not involved in the CCG's at least 10-14 practices for their bowl games.

Might require a bit of schedule tweeking, but it's doable.

10 to 14 practices in one week?

I think 2 weeks after the CCGs is cutting it close as it is.
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What would you change to bowl season?
(05-03-2019 02:37 PM)BeatNavy Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 10:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 06:47 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 12:44 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Personally, I love the bowl season. One can never get enough college football.

The only thing I'd change is to try and spread out the games throughout the month of December. Last year they didn't start until December 15. The earlier bowls are usually the "smaller" ones, why not start the week after the CCG's? Bids for the NYD games and the CFP would be after the championship games, but why wait for the others? Announce the early games after the end of the regular season which would still give teams 2 weeks or more to prepare. And while they're at it, throw a few "local" games in during the week, would beat watching reruns and Christmas specials.

Army Navy play that weekend so there is football games on


Yes, but a whole weekend of football would be better.

That weekend is still the regular season, so no bowls could be played.

There could be other regular season games.


Move Army-Navy to week zero?





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(05-02-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  All non-NY6 bowls are at-large vs at-large. No conference tie-ins.

No team shall appear in the same non-NY6 more than two years in a row.

The process for team selection shall be from the highest payout to the lowest. Highest bowl payout picks first, lowest picks last. In cases where multiple bowls have the same payout then the oldest bowl selects ahead of those that are newer.

If there aren't enough bowl eligible teams then the bowls are allowed to pick any FBS team not on punitive probation to play regardless of record.

All bowls are required to have a minimum payout of $350k per team.

Any proposed new bowl must have a guaranteed payout of at least $500k per team and an over-the-air or cable TV deal in place before certification.

Any bowl taking place outside the United States shall be required to have a guaranteed payout of at least $650k.

First of all, one of the all-time best posts! 04-bow

I'd probably be a little stricter on the non-repeat thing, but that's minor. The minimum payouts, selection order, tv contracts - perfect!
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The Bowl Draft: a made for TV event!
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Need a bowl game in Barrow, Alaska. Farthest north football field.



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The Today Show hosted from Barrow recently. JrSEC could probably fund the Arctic Bowl from Barrow for us.
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I’d change just one thing for now...

4 team play-in to Access Bowl #6.

Consisting of top 2 G5 champs and 2 at-larges. The 2 at-larges would be the next 2 highest ranked available after 5 other Access Bowls are filled.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
If I had complete control over post season:

16-team College Football Playoff falling under the NCAA's control
  • All 10 conference champions get autobids
  • 6 At-large teams
  • Top 8 teams get first round bye
  • Seeding is determined by Out-Of-Conference performance of your entire conference
  • First round is played at the higher seeds house
  • Quarter and Semi finals are NY6 bowls

16-team Invitational Playoff falling under a Committee's control
  • Committee invites 16 highly ranked teams not in the NCAA playoff

    Past that each conference can have up to 3 other bowl games. Each conference must have at least 1 P5 vs G5 bowl tie-in and the results of the game count towards next season's out-of-conference record for the conference.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
When will the 2020 bowl season and Tie-ins be announced??
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Eliminate those that do not have at least a one million dollar payout. Also, quit making the schools pay for a minimum number of tickets.
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