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Mick was their 110th choice. Sucking in March will put you way down the list. So glad he’s gone.
 
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Seems like an "anything goes" business these days so I'd love to know the details behind this part:

Quote:Rebholz also described the school’s vetting of other candidates through the NCAA and an unnamed firm based in Atlanta. He said those efforts resulted in a list of coaches considered “untouchable” because of major NCAA violations, “infidelity, very low character, etc.”

Rebholz went on to name eight prominent coaches, “many of whom wanted our job, but we couldn’t hire knowing what we know due to properly vetting them out.”


Other candidates, Rebholz wrote, mentioning three names specifically, “came back blemished but acceptable … so we weren’t overly conservative, but we ensured UCLA was getting a good human being that did it the right way.” Rebholz did not specify what the blemishes might have entailed.
 
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(04-30-2019 08:36 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Seems like an "anything goes" business these days so I'd love to know the details behind this part:

Quote:Rebholz also described the school’s vetting of other candidates through the NCAA and an unnamed firm based in Atlanta. He said those efforts resulted in a list of coaches considered “untouchable” because of major NCAA violations, “infidelity, very low character, etc.”

Rebholz went on to name eight prominent coaches, “many of whom wanted our job, but we couldn’t hire knowing what we know due to properly vetting them out.”


Other candidates, Rebholz wrote, mentioning three names specifically, “came back blemished but acceptable … so we weren’t overly conservative, but we ensured UCLA was getting a good human being that did it the right way.” Rebholz did not specify what the blemishes might have entailed.

hahaha what a joke. If the words in this article were true they wouldn't have tried to get Coach Cal from UK. Give me a break.
 
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(04-30-2019 09:16 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Can you blame them?

Southern CA was the best place in the world to live... 40 years ago. 30 years ago it was good. 20 years ago it was ok. Now it's halfway to Mexico as far as quality of life.

They still have wealthy institutions from being the best economy in the world from 1930-1999. But at this point they're a mere 40 years behind Cleveland in their decline.

I love it when people from Cincinnati and Ohio criticize California. Born and raised in Cincinnati however California is superior in most metrics than Ohio, plus Ohio has been declining for years and it's part of the Rust Belt for crying out loud! Every place has its advantages and disadvantages, and overall I prefer living in Albuquerque however there are certain things I do miss about Cincinnati.
 
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(04-30-2019 09:27 PM)Loco Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:16 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Can you blame them?

Southern CA was the best place in the world to live... 40 years ago. 30 years ago it was good. 20 years ago it was ok. Now it's halfway to Mexico as far as quality of life.

They still have wealthy institutions from being the best economy in the world from 1930-1999. But at this point they're a mere 40 years behind Cleveland in their decline.

I love it when people from Cincinnati and Ohio criticize California. Born and raised in Cincinnati however California is superior in most metrics than Ohio, plus Ohio has been declining for years and it's part of the Rust Belt for crying out loud! Every place has its advantages and disadvantages, and overall I prefer living in Albuquerque however there are certain things I do miss about Cincinnati.

Understand that the OP was strictly a political post. Way too common on this board but tolerated by the mods...
 
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(04-30-2019 09:27 PM)Loco Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:16 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Can you blame them?

Southern CA was the best place in the world to live... 40 years ago. 30 years ago it was good. 20 years ago it was ok. Now it's halfway to Mexico as far as quality of life.

They still have wealthy institutions from being the best economy in the world from 1930-1999. But at this point they're a mere 40 years behind Cleveland in their decline.

I love it when people from Cincinnati and Ohio criticize California. Born and raised in Cincinnati however California is superior in most metrics than Ohio, plus Ohio has been declining for years and it's part of the Rust Belt for crying out loud! Every place has its advantages and disadvantages, and overall I prefer living in Albuquerque however there are certain things I do miss about Cincinnati.

ABQ, beautiful place. Good food. Love me some green chilis. Overall though pretty boring. Santa Fe is pretty special too.
 
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I will say this about the LA Times article - it is an exceptional example of journalism. Something we can never expect from Cincy outlets. Shame.



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(04-30-2019 09:27 PM)Loco Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:16 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Can you blame them?

Southern CA was the best place in the world to live... 40 years ago. 30 years ago it was good. 20 years ago it was ok. Now it's halfway to Mexico as far as quality of life.

They still have wealthy institutions from being the best economy in the world from 1930-1999. But at this point they're a mere 40 years behind Cleveland in their decline.

I love it when people from Cincinnati and Ohio criticize California. Born and raised in Cincinnati however California is superior in most metrics than Ohio, plus Ohio has been declining for years and it's part of the Rust Belt for crying out loud! Every place has its advantages and disadvantages, and overall I prefer living in Albuquerque however there are certain things I do miss about Cincinnati.

i'm still waiting for Captain Bearcat to post where he lived. BearcatsUC mentioned Barstow. If true, that's not LA by even the loosest of definitions, and i've seen ppl as far as Riverside and San Bernardino claim LA.
 
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(04-30-2019 04:33 PM)geef Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 04:12 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 11:08 AM)eroc Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 10:46 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 10:01 AM)geef Wrote:  Wow. Really wanted to lay a good ole blanket statement on California. Glad you found an opening.

Sorry, I lived there for the past 3 years. I honestly can't see why anyone would ever voluntarily choose to live there if they have outside options.

Where did you live in LA?

Barstow.

Not at all L.A., but that fully explains your perspective. That's some harsh landscape out thataway.

Compton? LA is a very big place.
 
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(04-30-2019 12:28 PM)crex043 Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 12:13 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 12:04 PM)crex043 Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:48 AM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 08:26 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  https://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/la-s...story.html

Submitted without commentary - for now.






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Great article. Thanks for the post.

I wonder if Bohn read it? A much better way to search for a coach instead of a short conversation in the hallway with Savino, and a Sunday phone call with Brannen. And we wonder why we struggle to take the next step in the NCAA tournament, bowl game invites, and conference affiliations.

You serious, Clark?

Many reports have stated that multiple candidates were considered / interviewed during the week-long search and that Brannen's name kept coming out on top in comparison to others.

It's laughable that you positively compare UCLA's hiring process to UC's. UCLA hasn't found success over its last several hires (in several sports) and has become a Tier II destination.

The clearest difference is that UC got the guy on the top of their list, and UCLA quite literally got the guy that they admitted to was on the very bottom of theirs.

Yup... The only thing that got people off laughing about the UCLA hiring...disaster..."hiring process" was the dumpster fire that erupted at Saint John's. But the UCLA debacle went on-and-on-and-on for what...three weeks?...even as Alford found another job at Nevada. It was a string of public rejections. I wondered if Mick was really going to take the job at the end because it certainly had to hurt him as well as UCLA. The whole world knows that UCLA wanted Jaime Dixon...not Mick Cronin.

There's no way in hell I want a story like that playing out at UC.
Further illustrates how willing Mick was to get out of here, which makes me feel better about him leaving. Makes his statement about UCLA's desire and resources to win kind of laughable given what they were willing to offer to some candidates and not others. Mick basically left and is making similar money (and likely less than what we were renegotiating), so he's accepting the position based on the legacy of the program. Good luck with that, Mick. If he thought UC fans were hard on him, he isn't going to be happy with how UCLA treats a Tier II coach.

Yeah... I had a whole second paragraph about how this shows that Mick was absolutely dead-set on getting out, but I decided it was too much.

I agree with your assessment.
 
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(04-30-2019 04:33 PM)geef Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 04:12 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 11:08 AM)eroc Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 10:46 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 10:01 AM)geef Wrote:  Wow. Really wanted to lay a good ole blanket statement on California. Glad you found an opening.

Sorry, I lived there for the past 3 years. I honestly can't see why anyone would ever voluntarily choose to live there if they have outside options.

Where did you live in LA?

Barstow.

Not at all L.A., but that fully explains your perspective. That's some harsh landscape out thataway.

Compton? LA is a very big place.
 
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(04-30-2019 10:01 AM)geef Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:16 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Can you blame them?

Southern CA was the best place in the world to live... 40 years ago. 30 years ago it was good. 20 years ago it was ok. Now it's halfway to Mexico as far as quality of life.

They still have wealthy institutions from being the best economy in the world from 1930-1999. But at this point they're a mere 40 years behind Cleveland in their decline.

Wow. Really wanted to lay a good ole blanket statement on California. Glad you found an opening.

Uh... I lived in the LA Basin 1989-2015. Captain Bearcat is spot on with his assessment. Would you care to point out exactly where he is in error?????

I was a Long Beach Cop (which is in the south bay of Los Angeles County) and lived in Orange County. My wife is an OC native... Make no mistake, you can get rich in California if you work your butt off. I fled SoCal with a $100k public employee pension (90% of my base pay) and traded a SoCal 4 plex that I bought in 1999 straight across (tax deferred) for a 40 unit in Cincinnati. And I sold my 5013 sq ft custom home in SoCal and replaced it with an old house in Amberley Village. And I also sold two small SoCal SFR's rentals before splitting...

But unless you have ever lived that traffic life, LA court at 8:30 am commuting from Orange County and then back home to Orange County and then back up to Long Beach for a 3:00 pm-01:00 am shift, and paid 9.3% state tax on every W2 dollar earned over $36k, you really do speak in ignorance. Sorry for the bluntness.

My house was over a $1m as was every single one of the houses on my street. Yet, my kid, attending public schools, had a temporary construction trailer in both 5th and 6th grade. Why?? Overcrowding. Why??? illegal immigration. My kid is now a Soph at Walnut Hills. We moved here for 7th grade year. No complaints so far.

I shake my head when I read the pro-california comments put forth by these smug Cincinnatians. Unbelievable...
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Maybe in LA, but the quality of life in the Bay Area is fantastic. That said, it has plenty of problems.
 
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notice Mick isn't welcoming him with open arms to UCLA...what's that tell ya
 
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(05-01-2019 01:48 PM)calpersfatcat Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 10:01 AM)geef Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:16 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Can you blame them?

Southern CA was the best place in the world to live... 40 years ago. 30 years ago it was good. 20 years ago it was ok. Now it's halfway to Mexico as far as quality of life.

They still have wealthy institutions from being the best economy in the world from 1930-1999. But at this point they're a mere 40 years behind Cleveland in their decline.

Wow. Really wanted to lay a good ole blanket statement on California. Glad you found an opening.

Uh... I lived in the LA Basin 1989-2015. Captain Bearcat is spot on with his assessment. Would you care to point out exactly where he is in error?????

I was a Long Beach Cop (which is in the south bay of Los Angeles County) and lived in Orange County. My wife is an OC native... Make no mistake, you can get rich in California if you work your butt off. I fled SoCal with a $100k public employee pension (90% of my base pay) and traded a SoCal 4 plex that I bought in 1999 straight across (tax deferred) for a 40 unit in Cincinnati. And I sold my 5013 sq ft custom home in SoCal and replaced it with an old house in Amberley Village. And I also sold two small SoCal SFR's rentals before splitting...

But unless you have ever lived that traffic life, LA court at 8:30 am commuting from Orange County and then back home to Orange County and then back up to Long Beach for a 3:00 pm-01:00 am shift, and paid 9.3% state tax on every W2 dollar earned over $36k, you really do speak in ignorance. Sorry for the bluntness.

My house was over a $1m as was every single one of the houses on my street. Yet, my kid, attending public schools, had a temporary construction trailer in both 5th and 6th grade. Why?? Overcrowding. Why??? illegal immigration. My kid is now a Soph at Walnut Hills. We moved here for 7th grade year. No complaints so far.

I shake my head when I read the pro-california comments put forth by these smug Cincinnatians. Unbelievable...
DL

It's all subjective.

Bottom line - the expense of the city is directly correlated to supply & demand. Market forces contradict your assessment. It's expensive for some of the same reasons you don't like it. The market says that it's a place that's highly in demand. The city, and the state as a whole. Both of which continue to grow.

People are there in great numbers due to opportunities, which in turn drives cost of living expenses. It's the 2nd largest city in America, and one of the largest in the entire world. What exactly would one expect from such a large (and growing city) with inferior infrastructure?

I've lived in Tokyo, Manila, Melbourne, and Sao Paulo (22M) and this is just par for the course stuff for an insanely large metro. It's not for everyone, but they're all large for good reasons.

As a real estate investor I get what you're saying, but ultimately it comes down to one's tastes and preferences. There's nothing in the market that indicates that LA is on a downward trajectory.

Btw, imma Walnut Hills grad, and we had temporary construction trailers there for just about every year i was a student. jus sayin'...



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(05-01-2019 03:08 PM)digibrink Wrote:  Maybe in LA, but the quality of life in the Bay Area is fantastic. That said, it has plenty of problems.
He did qualify his statement as southern California.
 
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(05-01-2019 04:06 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 01:48 PM)calpersfatcat Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 10:01 AM)geef Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:16 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Can you blame them?

Southern CA was the best place in the world to live... 40 years ago. 30 years ago it was good. 20 years ago it was ok. Now it's halfway to Mexico as far as quality of life.

They still have wealthy institutions from being the best economy in the world from 1930-1999. But at this point they're a mere 40 years behind Cleveland in their decline.

Wow. Really wanted to lay a good ole blanket statement on California. Glad you found an opening.

Uh... I lived in the LA Basin 1989-2015. Captain Bearcat is spot on with his assessment. Would you care to point out exactly where he is in error?????

I was a Long Beach Cop (which is in the south bay of Los Angeles County) and lived in Orange County. My wife is an OC native... Make no mistake, you can get rich in California if you work your butt off. I fled SoCal with a $100k public employee pension (90% of my base pay) and traded a SoCal 4 plex that I bought in 1999 straight across (tax deferred) for a 40 unit in Cincinnati. And I sold my 5013 sq ft custom home in SoCal and replaced it with an old house in Amberley Village. And I also sold two small SoCal SFR's rentals before splitting...

But unless you have ever lived that traffic life, LA court at 8:30 am commuting from Orange County and then back home to Orange County and then back up to Long Beach for a 3:00 pm-01:00 am shift, and paid 9.3% state tax on every W2 dollar earned over $36k, you really do speak in ignorance. Sorry for the bluntness.

My house was over a $1m as was every single one of the houses on my street. Yet, my kid, attending public schools, had a temporary construction trailer in both 5th and 6th grade. Why?? Overcrowding. Why??? illegal immigration. My kid is now a Soph at Walnut Hills. We moved here for 7th grade year. No complaints so far.

I shake my head when I read the pro-california comments put forth by these smug Cincinnatians. Unbelievable...
DL

It's all subjective.

Bottom line - the expense of the city is directly correlated to supply & demand. Market forces contradict your assessment. It's expensive for some of the same reasons you don't like it. The market says that it's a place that's highly in demand. The city, and the state as a whole. Both of which continue to grow.

People are there in great numbers due to opportunities, which in turn drives cost of living expenses. It's the 2nd largest city in America, and one of the largest in the entire world. What exactly would one expect from such a large (and growing city) with inferior infrastructure?

I've lived in Tokyo, Manila, Melbourne, and Sao Paulo (22M) and this is just par for the course stuff for an insanely large metro. It's not for everyone, but they're all large for good reasons.

As a real estate investor I get what you're saying, but ultimately it comes down to one's tastes and preferences. There's nothing in the market that indicates that LA is on a downward trajectory.

Btw, imma Walnut Hills grad, and we had temporary construction trailers there for just about every year i was a student. jus sayin'...



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LOL.

Whatever. Southern California was my home for thirty years. I was also there 1982-1985 when I was assigned to a counter terrorism hostage rescue team for the 1984 Olympics (US Army Military Police) We primarily did dignitary protection. I practically "lived" in downtown LA at Parker Center, the LAPD HQ. I loved LA. Literally. I had employment offers from both the LAPD and the LASO.

Instead, I returned home to Cincinnati and attended UC from 1985-1989, and then went right back out there. I went to Long Beach PD for a variety of reasons, but primarily because I had many offers and LB seemed like the best of all worlds. And the Los Angeles City Pension system terrified me.

I cannot speak of tokyo, manila, ,melbourne or San Paulo. But I know Los Angeles inside and out. It is a mess. both figuratively and literally. Even the concrete is rotting in los angeles.

We visit at least twice a year. My wife's family is in Orange County and All of my friends are in Los Angeles County/Orange County. I dated the gal who is now the chief of police in santa monica. I have literally a dozen friends who are chiefs of police all over the southland.

Your assessment of the desirability/livability of los angeles and the surrounding area is a gross oversimplification of the totality of the SoCal lifestyle.

There were "no indicators" that "problems in the market" existed in 2006 and 2007.

And you were in temporary trailers at Walnut Hills because of new construction. There is no new school construction occurring in southern california that I am aware of. My kid was in temp trailers because of overcrowding and because of the incredibly high cost of permitting/building in southern california.

How high? I paid $54k in permit fees in 2008 to have the privilege of building a single family home in southern california. I can probably scan and post the docs if you are interested. I am pretty sure that we saved everything to disc when we built that house.... 03-lmfao

DL

p.s. I'm kinda rich. maybe not Doss rich, but kinda rich.
 
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(05-01-2019 01:48 PM)calpersfatcat Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 10:01 AM)geef Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:16 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Can you blame them?

Southern CA was the best place in the world to live... 40 years ago. 30 years ago it was good. 20 years ago it was ok. Now it's halfway to Mexico as far as quality of life.

They still have wealthy institutions from being the best economy in the world from 1930-1999. But at this point they're a mere 40 years behind Cleveland in their decline.

Wow. Really wanted to lay a good ole blanket statement on California. Glad you found an opening.

Uh... I lived in the LA Basin 1989-2015. Captain Bearcat is spot on with his assessment. Would you care to point out exactly where he is in error?????

I was a Long Beach Cop (which is in the south bay of Los Angeles County) and lived in Orange County. My wife is an OC native... Make no mistake, you can get rich in California if you work your butt off. I fled SoCal with a $100k public employee pension (90% of my base pay) and traded a SoCal 4 plex that I bought in 1999 straight across (tax deferred) for a 40 unit in Cincinnati. And I sold my 5013 sq ft custom home in SoCal and replaced it with an old house in Amberley Village. And I also sold two small SoCal SFR's rentals before splitting...

But unless you have ever lived that traffic life, LA court at 8:30 am commuting from Orange County and then back home to Orange County and then back up to Long Beach for a 3:00 pm-01:00 am shift, and paid 9.3% state tax on every W2 dollar earned over $36k, you really do speak in ignorance. Sorry for the bluntness.

My house was over a $1m as was every single one of the houses on my street. Yet, my kid, attending public schools, had a temporary construction trailer in both 5th and 6th grade. Why?? Overcrowding. Why??? illegal immigration. My kid is now a Soph at Walnut Hills. We moved here for 7th grade year. No complaints so far.

I shake my head when I read the pro-california comments put forth by these smug Cincinnatians. Unbelievable...
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Uh.....I never said he was in error, nor did I make a pro-California statement. Congratulations - you've just one-upped him while, incredibly, being smug about it. And I'm not a Cincinnatian, although I love my hometown. I live in Oregon (now's your chance for a multi-paragraph Oregon rant).
 
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(05-01-2019 01:06 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
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(04-30-2019 10:46 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Sorry, I lived there for the past 3 years. I honestly can't see why anyone would ever voluntarily choose to live there if they have outside options.

Where did you live in LA?

Barstow.

Not at all L.A., but that fully explains your perspective. That's some harsh landscape out thataway.

Compton? LA is a very big place.

Yeah, Compton is squarely within LA County (halfway between LA and Long Beach). Barstow is halfway between LA and Las Vegas, thus my confusion.
 
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