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Am I the last to hear that we will not be doing the re-seating process next year as is the normal every 3 year process? It was even hinted they don't know when it might happen.

I'm extremely upset about this. Supposedly this god-forsaken tax law is requiring this to be the last re-seating for football based on our old priority point system. Why is that not also for basketball? Football season ticket holders are given the opportunity to re-shuffle once more before they are "locked-in" but basketball ticket holders are not?

Anyone else incensed??? Or have we all just given in to the idea that basketball is just a necessary irritation and we sold our souls for football???

Thanks for letting me vent.

Sorry but that was clearly communicated. Plus once it is decoupled for football they decided there was no need to reseat for basketball. However, I suspect they will do something similar for basketball of they decide to reseat. You will have to give a ODAF donation plus pay for seat reservation and ticket cost. Honestly I am not upset about it because if you want better seats, I am confident hey will work with you.

(04-29-2019 07:55 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  Am I the last to hear that we will not be doing the re-seating process next year as is the normal every 3 year process? It was even hinted they don't know when it might happen.

Anyone else incensed??? Or have we all just given in to the idea that basketball is just a necessary irritation and we sold our souls for football???

They said something about it but it was not exactly widely publicized. It wasn't really a state secret either.

I look at no plans for a basketball reseating as a double-edged sword. I like my hoops seats. I don't want to move them. I would like to dislodge the guy sitting in front of me at The Ted and relocate my dad up there but that is not going to happen unless we reseat. If we reseat it is going to cost me more money with seat fees. On the other hand, I would love for the basketball only set to have to pay seat fees too. The optics now is that the football season ticket holders are doing all the heavy lifting.

Maybe the administration is evaluating how the football process is going and could use that knowledge to refine the basketball seating process.

All I know is, looking at here, with posters (who I would consider 'die hard' at minimum if you are posting on a website regularly) the vast majority of these people are decreasing their football season tickets, many by more than 50%. It's not a very good outlook from our very small sample size over here. I don't know if they can afford to do the same thing to basketball, but who knows.

(04-30-2019 06:30 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Maybe the administration is evaluating how the football process is going and could use that knowledge to refine the basketball seating process.

All I know is, looking at here, with posters (who I would consider 'die hard' at minimum if you are posting on a website regularly) the vast majority of these people are decreasing their football season tickets, many by more than 50%. It's not a very good outlook from our very small sample size over here. I don't know if they can afford to do the same thing to basketball, but who knows.

I think that is very much the case. If seat fees are not a total disaster in football then I would expect to see them come to basketball. If that does happen though I really hope they take a hard look at the ODAF giving levels for the Big Blue Room and parking though. The way things were spun to me before the seat fees were rolled out is that "most donors" would spend about the same as they have in years past. In my case, I dropped my actual ODAF gift a bit but I'm giving more when you factor in the seat fees. The change in the tax laws should not diminish the donor experience. It's not like the money isn't going to the same pot at the end of the day.

(04-30-2019 08:01 AM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 06:30 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Maybe the administration is evaluating how the football process is going and could use that knowledge to refine the basketball seating process.

All I know is, looking at here, with posters (who I would consider 'die hard' at minimum if you are posting on a website regularly) the vast majority of these people are decreasing their football season tickets, many by more than 50%. It's not a very good outlook from our very small sample size over here. I don't know if they can afford to do the same thing to basketball, but who knows.

I think that is very much the case. If seat fees are not a total disaster in football then I would expect to see them come to basketball. If that does happen though I really hope they take a hard look at the ODAF giving levels for the Big Blue Room and parking though. The way things were spun to me before the seat fees were rolled out is that "most donors" would spend about the same as they have in years past. In my case, I dropped my actual ODAF gift a bit but I'm giving more when you factor in the seat fees. The change in the tax laws should not diminish the donor experience. It's not like the money isn't going to the same pot at the end of the day.

You may be budgeting for a certain section, but how can you be certain you're definitely getting your targeted sections?

(04-30-2019 08:27 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 08:01 AM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 06:30 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Maybe the administration is evaluating how the football process is going and could use that knowledge to refine the basketball seating process.

All I know is, looking at here, with posters (who I would consider 'die hard' at minimum if you are posting on a website regularly) the vast majority of these people are decreasing their football season tickets, many by more than 50%. It's not a very good outlook from our very small sample size over here. I don't know if they can afford to do the same thing to basketball, but who knows.

I think that is very much the case. If seat fees are not a total disaster in football then I would expect to see them come to basketball. If that does happen though I really hope they take a hard look at the ODAF giving levels for the Big Blue Room and parking though. The way things were spun to me before the seat fees were rolled out is that "most donors" would spend about the same as they have in years past. In my case, I dropped my actual ODAF gift a bit but I'm giving more when you factor in the seat fees. The change in the tax laws should not diminish the donor experience. It's not like the money isn't going to the same pot at the end of the day.

You may be budgeting for a certain section, but how can you be certain you're definitely getting your targeted sections?

That is a very fair point. I will likely pick early enough that I will get close to, if not the, section I want and thus the higher price point. Really the difference between the $100 and $50 seat fee sections isn't all that great from a view perspective. As long as I don't have the sun in my face I'm fine.

(04-30-2019 08:27 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 08:01 AM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 06:30 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Maybe the administration is evaluating how the football process is going and could use that knowledge to refine the basketball seating process.

All I know is, looking at here, with posters (who I would consider 'die hard' at minimum if you are posting on a website regularly) the vast majority of these people are decreasing their football season tickets, many by more than 50%. It's not a very good outlook from our very small sample size over here. I don't know if they can afford to do the same thing to basketball, but who knows.

I think that is very much the case. If seat fees are not a total disaster in football then I would expect to see them come to basketball. If that does happen though I really hope they take a hard look at the ODAF giving levels for the Big Blue Room and parking though. The way things were spun to me before the seat fees were rolled out is that "most donors" would spend about the same as they have in years past. In my case, I dropped my actual ODAF gift a bit but I'm giving more when you factor in the seat fees. The change in the tax laws should not diminish the donor experience. It's not like the money isn't going to the same pot at the end of the day.

You may be budgeting for a certain section, but how can you be certain you're definitely getting your targeted sections?

If and when the ODAF starts charging a seat fee for basketball, I'm out of the ODAF. I prefer to pick my games, especially with enormous weak home schedules. They have carried theses home schedule for several years. No more spirited games at ODU, and challenges .

(04-30-2019 11:21 AM)bluelight Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 08:27 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 08:01 AM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 06:30 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Maybe the administration is evaluating how the football process is going and could use that knowledge to refine the basketball seating process.

All I know is, looking at here, with posters (who I would consider 'die hard' at minimum if you are posting on a website regularly) the vast majority of these people are decreasing their football season tickets, many by more than 50%. It's not a very good outlook from our very small sample size over here. I don't know if they can afford to do the same thing to basketball, but who knows.

I think that is very much the case. If seat fees are not a total disaster in football then I would expect to see them come to basketball. If that does happen though I really hope they take a hard look at the ODAF giving levels for the Big Blue Room and parking though. The way things were spun to me before the seat fees were rolled out is that "most donors" would spend about the same as they have in years past. In my case, I dropped my actual ODAF gift a bit but I'm giving more when you factor in the seat fees. The change in the tax laws should not diminish the donor experience. It's not like the money isn't going to the same pot at the end of the day.

You may be budgeting for a certain section, but how can you be certain you're definitely getting your targeted sections?

If and when the ODAF starts charging a seat fee for basketball, I'm out of the ODAF. I prefer to pick my games, especially with enormous weak home schedules. They have carried theses home schedule for several years. No more spirited games at ODU, and challenges .

We get it, you aren't happy with ODU hoops. You're more than free to feel that way. But don't quote post something that's on a completely different tangent.

My main point was why aren't we having that one last re-seating by priority points for basketball if we do it for football?

We could have a basketball re-seating this year based on points without a seat fee.

If the stupid tax bill is in effect this year why are wel re-seating by points for football when that is not supposed to done according to the bill...why not do basketball too??

We have not liked our seats these last two years. There must be a fluke in the layout of the TED. In our section of the row we have NO "knee" room. Those of you who know me and Billy we're barely 5' 2" and 5' 7"....leg room is never a problem! Other rows near us we have at least 3 inches between our knees and the seat back in front of us.

I have donated based on building up points for getting new seats in 2021. Another reason I'm so mad.

What makes this so frustrating is it wouldn't surprise me if in two years those tax changes will be gone and everything will change.

(04-30-2019 01:09 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  My main point was why aren't we having that one last re-seating by priority points for basketball if we do it for football?

We could have a basketball re-seating this year based on points without a seat fee.

If the stupid tax bill is in effect this year why are wel re-seating by points for football when that is not supposed to done according to the bill...why not do basketball too??

My guess is that the football will be the canary in the coal mine for seat fees. If they go over well they will probably come to basketball. If not, then maybe not. I doubt you will see a reseating at The Ted without a seat fee attached. There really was no way to not do a seat selection process for football this year with The Steve coming online and the only truly fair way to do it is to utilize the existing priority point structure. While an ODAF donation is a component of the priority point matrix it is not required to purchase season tickets nor are priority points so the tax law changes are not really in play here as I understand it.

ODAF will work with basketball season ticket holders to change their seats at the Ted if they're not satisfied with their current seats. They're just not going to go through the process of reseating everyone. There are still plenty of good seats available for the taking if you want to switch.

(04-30-2019 02:26 PM)monarchfan4life Wrote:  ODAF will work with basketball season ticket holders to change their seats at the Ted if they're not satisfied with their current seats. They're just not going to go through the process of reseating everyone. There are still plenty of good seats available for the taking if you want to switch.

I said the same thing ! I am confident of that point.

I've changed seats a couple of times in between general reseating. It's easy. Just call ODAF and tell them what you want. There are always good seats available.

But, I'm picky. I want to stay in Sec 105. Don't want to sit above Row P or Q due to those blowers. My ODAF rep told me there;d be no problem to move seats....until I told him there's 5 of us with another twoo who want to be near bur don't have to be contiguous!!
I am also cutting down on my ODAF ((Because if you or whatever cute euphemism they're using!) in case I have to spend more that what I hope to on FB tix and seat fees.
I think I will ask any candidate running if they intend to dump and redo the tax bill. If they say dump it...they'll get my vote.

(04-30-2019 09:54 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  But, I'm picky. I want to stay in Sec 105. Don't want to sit above Row P or Q due to those blowers. My ODAF rep told me there;d be no problem to move seats....until I told him there's 5 of us with another twoo who want to be near bur don't have to be contiguous!!
I am also cutting down on my ODAF ((Because if you or whatever cute euphemism they're using!) in case I have to spend more that what I hope to on FB tix and seat fees.
I think I will ask any candidate running if they intend to dump and redo the tax bill. If they say dump it...they'll get my vote.

I've changed season ticket seats several games into the season before in a year right after a reseating because my new seat selection wasn't as good for us as I had though it would be when I originally chose the seats. From personal experience I can tell you that the people at ODU were very agreeable to work with us on finding new seats that would fit our desires - including offering some that they had reserved for ODU's purposes and kept out of the reseating process.

Someone else mentioned a potential of paying a fee for basketball seating coming in the future. That has already happened up in the Club Section as for many years ODU had a rule that required a sizable minimum donation to ODAF in order to purchase the already higher priced season ticket seats there.

It sounds like you are more angry about the tax law than you are about your seats. To each his (or her) own on that. My wife and I ended up better off financially under the new tax law then before so I'm definitely hoping the tax rates/brackets stay at least as low as it is now in the years ahead. I like being able to keep more of my money.

I think ODAF is probably interested in having two "Because Of You" inflection campaigns vs. only one. In other words, they won't reseat both sports at the same time because there might be an opportunity to have donors bump up their donations again in the future if you do basketball separately. And the only way to accomplish that is to do it during a different year.

I haven't talked to anyone in ODAF about plans but that is just my take from afar.