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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
The Night King coming to Winterfell isn't much of a spoiler. You saw him breach The Wall in Season 7 and many of the show's most important characters were in The North. Where else was he going to go?
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
(04-29-2019 04:35 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  The Night King coming to Winterfell isn't much of a spoiler. You saw him breach The Wall in Season 7 and many of the show's most important characters were in The North. Where else was he going to go?

There was some speculation on reddit after Season 7 ended that he'd bypass Winterfell completely to draw people out from Winterfell to fight on his place of choosing.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
(04-29-2019 04:35 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  The Night King coming to Winterfell isn't much of a spoiler. You saw him breach The Wall in Season 7 and many of the show's most important characters were in The North. Where else was he going to go?


agreed

I miss read your post at first but I fully agree with it.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
(04-29-2019 05:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 04:43 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  And Arya Stark turned him into ice dust.

What an amazingly epic episode. 10 out of 10. 3 episodes left and I don't see how they could ever top this.

GOT is the most epicly epic epic in the history of epicness.

It really is. That entire episode was amazing. I used to brag about being one of the few who had never watched GOT. And then I watched the first episode and was hooked.


Same here.

I almost had to quit watching it though during the 2nd and 3rd season. Not because it wasn't good but because of all the nudity and the horrible, horrible deaths of the more honorable characters in the show.

In the early years, if you were a "good guy" you were betrayed and gruesomely slaughtered in some terrible way. And that happened over and over again. Even children characters were not immune from the dark cruelty in some episodes.

It so had me hooked on the bigger story lines though that I couldn't walk away, and many terrible deeds got their just rewards the last 2 seasons.

If you aren't disturbed by some things like the red wedding and a few other deaths, then there is something missing inside you.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
Jorah Mormont's death is a big one. He has been Daenery's closest, most trusted advisor and protector from season 1 on.

Its a seriously big loss for her. He was her man, not romantically but in every other way. There was obviously a deep love there, he was just too old for it to be romantic.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
(04-30-2019 04:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 05:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 04:43 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  And Arya Stark turned him into ice dust.

What an amazingly epic episode. 10 out of 10. 3 episodes left and I don't see how they could ever top this.

GOT is the most epicly epic epic in the history of epicness.

It really is. That entire episode was amazing. I used to brag about being one of the few who had never watched GOT. And then I watched the first episode and was hooked.


Same here.

I almost had to quit watching it though during the 2nd and 3rd season. Not because it wasn't good but because of all the nudity and the horrible, horrible deaths of the more honorable characters in the show.

In the early years, if you were a "good guy" you were betrayed and gruesomely slaughtered in some terrible way. And that happened over and over again. Even children characters were not immune from the dark cruelty in some episodes.

It so had me hooked on the bigger story lines though that I couldn't walk away, and many terrible deeds got their just rewards the last 2 seasons.

If you aren't disturbed by some things like the red wedding and a few other deaths, then there is something missing inside you.

Exactly right. I'm no shrinking violet but some of that stuff was over the top.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
(04-29-2019 01:14 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 06:34 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 04:43 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  And Arya Stark turned him into ice dust.

What an amazingly epic episode. 10 out of 10. 3 episodes left and I don't see how they could ever top this.

GOT is the most epicly epic epic in the history of epicness.

Loved it as well.

Only issues I have are.....

1) They NEED to take a part of the next episode to explain just who the heck the Night King was and/or how he came into being. Too many unanswered questions otherwise.

They could have done a better job with this. One of the points made in the after-show discussion was that the NK was killed because Arya used Valyrian steel and stabbed him in the same spot as the Children of the Forest used to create him with dragon glass. I mean, ok - that's really interesting - but very few viewers know/remember this. And did Arya? Or did she just get lucky when she dropped the knife to her right hand and hit him in that spot?

I've really enjoyed the series but I'm struggling with the rapid pace of this season and how things are resolving in such a short period. Why did this season have to be 6 shows? Feels like we're going to have a dozen or more really interesting story lines that will never be resolved.

He was created when they pushed the dragon glass through his heart in the show. And Arya stabbed in the side. These morons don't remember their own show.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
(04-29-2019 02:15 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 06:34 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 04:43 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  And Arya Stark turned him into ice dust.

What an amazingly epic episode. 10 out of 10. 3 episodes left and I don't see how they could ever top this.

GOT is the most epicly epic epic in the history of epicness.

Loved it as well.

Only issues I have are.....

1) They NEED to take a part of the next episode to explain just who the heck the Night King was and/or how he came into being. Too many unanswered questions otherwise.

2) It was a bit difficult to watch. The dark plus the blizzard often made the picture difficult to follow.

3) Is anyone else sick of Bran being a complete turd? The whole sit there, ponder, and claim to be "something else" is wearing thin. So far the only thing he seems to have done is break the news of Jon's true lineage and get Hordor killed.

What I really liked....

1) Arya is a total bad azz.

2) Lyanna Mormont charging at a fricking giant then stabbing him in the eye!

3) Ser Jorah dying to protect his Khaleesi.


The think I've found a bit disappointing about the last couple seasons is that in the beginning, there were several "bad guys" and completely unlikable characters. Seems that they're bound and determined to give everyone their redemption arch. Hard to like the likable when there aren't enough unlikable to dislike.

They explained that back when Bran was hiding with the Children of the Forest.

[Image: the-creation-of-the-original-night-king....;amp;w=602]

They stabbed a guy with dragon glass and turned him into the first white walker, aka the Night King. They did it to protect themselves from the First Men, who they were at war with. But the Night King and White Walkers broke free of their control eventually, and things got really bad.

I was thinking more along the lines of who the Night King was before he was turned. Was he a Stark? Maybe a Targaryen? Perhaps some bloke who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
Dany/AeJon's potential army against Cersei:

- Survivors from the Battle of Winterfell: North, Wildlings, Vale Knights, Dothraki, Unsullied.

- Riverlands were the previously most damaged region (from War of the Five Kings) but if they can find Edmure Tully they might get him to rally the survivors. Unless there are only enough BoW survivors that Yara can transport them all by sea, then Dany's army has to march down the King's Road through the Riverlands.

- Outside of Casterly Rock getting sacked by the Unsullied, the Westerlands themselves have been relatively untouched. Can't say that for their menfolk, who are either dead or defending Cersei in King's Landing, but whatever is left there could be rallied for Dany/AeJon under the lawful Lord of the Westerlands and Warden of the West, Tyron.

- Cersei made the Tarleys lords of The Reach and Wardens of the South. With Randal and Dickon dead Sam's mom is probably running things as best she can. Not sure what forces The Reach still have at hand, but Dany could free Sam from his oath (No need for a Night's Watch....at least for now) and name him Lord of the Reach. His mom wouldn't object, and that would bring the Reach's reserves onto Dany/AeJon's side.

- Stormlands has basically had since the Battle of the Blackwater to recover, but a good part of their men died with Stannis in The North. What they have might come to Dany/AeJon's banner under Robert's only living son.

- Dorne is the real question mark. Who is even in charge down there? The Martells seemed to have been completely wiped out. Some third cousin twice removed? I think Dorne sits this one out and waits to see who to bend the knee to.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
(04-30-2019 04:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 05:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 04:43 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  And Arya Stark turned him into ice dust.

What an amazingly epic episode. 10 out of 10. 3 episodes left and I don't see how they could ever top this.

GOT is the most epicly epic epic in the history of epicness.

It really is. That entire episode was amazing. I used to brag about being one of the few who had never watched GOT. And then I watched the first episode and was hooked.


Same here.

I almost had to quit watching it though during the 2nd and 3rd season. Not because it wasn't good but because of all the nudity and the horrible, horrible deaths of the more honorable characters in the show.

In the early years, if you were a "good guy" you were betrayed and gruesomely slaughtered in some terrible way. And that happened over and over again. Even children characters were not immune from the dark cruelty in some episodes.

It so had me hooked on the bigger story lines though that I couldn't walk away, and many terrible deeds got their just rewards the last 2 seasons.

If you aren't disturbed by some things like the red wedding and a few other deaths, then there is something missing inside you.
Wife and I tried it 1 episode. Couldnt get into it for that very reason
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
(04-30-2019 07:46 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Dany/AeJon's potential army against Cersei:

- Survivors from the Battle of Winterfell: North, Wildlings, Vale Knights, Dothraki, Unsullied.

- Riverlands were the previously most damaged region (from War of the Five Kings) but if they can find Edmure Tully they might get him to rally the survivors. Unless there are only enough BoW survivors that Yara can transport them all by sea, then Dany's army has to march down the King's Road through the Riverlands.

- Outside of Casterly Rock getting sacked by the Unsullied, the Westerlands themselves have been relatively untouched. Can't say that for their menfolk, who are either dead or defending Cersei in King's Landing, but whatever is left there could be rallied for Dany/AeJon under the lawful Lord of the Westerlands and Warden of the West, Tyron.

- Cersei made the Tarleys lords of The Reach and Wardens of the South. With Randal and Dickon dead Sam's mom is probably running things as best she can. Not sure what forces The Reach still have at hand, but Dany could free Sam from his oath (No need for a Night's Watch....at least for now) and name him Lord of the Reach. His mom wouldn't object, and that would bring the Reach's reserves onto Dany/AeJon's side.

- Stormlands has basically had since the Battle of the Blackwater to recover, but a good part of their men died with Stannis in The North. What they have might come to Dany/AeJon's banner under Robert's only living son.

- Dorne is the real question mark. Who is even in charge down there? The Martells seemed to have been completely wiped out. Some third cousin twice removed? I think Dorne sits this one out and waits to see who to bend the knee to.

Thank you - when I was naming the houses in my previous post I was really trying to think of the regions/areas. The Reach was the only one I could come up with off the top of my head.

Lots of possibilities here.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
John Snow is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne. In the end he will sit at the Throne with Dani as his queen. There won’t be a battle. Cerci’s Generals will avoid a battle because they hate her and want to follow the legitimate heir and winner of the Battle of the Long Night. The seven kingdoms will finally be at peace. Cerci and the Greyjoy guy will be toted away to the dungeon. Just sayin....
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(04-30-2019 12:50 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  John Snow is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne. In the end he will sit at the Throne with Dani as his queen. There won’t be a battle. Cerci’s Generals will avoid a battle because they hate her and want to follow the legitimate heir and winner of the Battle of the Long Night. The seven kingdoms will finally be at peace. Cerci and the Greyjoy guy will be toted away to the dungeon. Just sayin....

AeJon is the legit heir but he doesn't want the Iron Throne and will probably take it only reluctantly. Now that the Night's King is out, Dany has no reason to compromise with him though. I think she takes the hardline until something changes her in the next 3 episodes, or she finds the grave.

Westermen under Cersei might be tempted to betray her by Jamie and Tyrion. The Golden Company has never broken a contract but they were originally formed to put a Blackfyre pretender on the Iron throne, and all the Blackfyre's are dead, in the show, so Dany/AeJon might help them fulfill their "original" contract and get the legit heir to both Targaryen and Blackfyre legacies on the Iron Throne.

Also, Iron Bank money bought the Golden Company but did they sign a contract with Cersei, Euron, or the Iron Bank. That would make a huge difference in how they act.

They may also have the Targaryen House Valerian sword, Blackfyre, with them.

Euron will escape to Esso if he isn't killed. Old boy won't be captured and he won't go out Seppuku style like Cersei might.
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RE: OT: The Night King came to Winterfell (spolier)
I can't believe that none of you caught the glimpse of a very much alive Night King in the previews. I don't get how he survived, but the Night King is still very much in the mix for the Iron Throne.
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(04-30-2019 02:38 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  I can't believe that none of you caught the glimpse of a very much alive Night King in the previews. I don't get how he survived, but the Night King is still very much in the mix for the Iron Throne.

Pics or it didn't happen.
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(04-30-2019 02:52 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 02:38 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  I can't believe that none of you caught the glimpse of a very much alive Night King in the previews. I don't get how he survived, but the Night King is still very much in the mix for the Iron Throne.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Sorry, totally tied up at work and absolutely not technical enough to get screen captures on here even if I wasn't at work. Seriously though...go through the previews at the end and watch closely, you will catch a glimpse.
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(04-30-2019 02:38 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  I can't believe that none of you caught the glimpse of a very much alive Night King in the previews. I don't get how he survived, but the Night King is still very much in the mix for the Iron Throne.

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(04-30-2019 12:57 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 12:50 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  John Snow is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne. In the end he will sit at the Throne with Dani as his queen. There won’t be a battle. Cerci’s Generals will avoid a battle because they hate her and want to follow the legitimate heir and winner of the Battle of the Long Night. The seven kingdoms will finally be at peace. Cerci and the Greyjoy guy will be toted away to the dungeon. Just sayin....

AeJon is the legit heir but he doesn't want the Iron Throne and will probably take it only reluctantly. Now that the Night's King is out, Dany has no reason to compromise with him though. I think she takes the hardline until something changes her in the next 3 episodes, or she finds the grave.

Westermen under Cersei might be tempted to betray her by Jamie and Tyrion. The Golden Company has never broken a contract but they were originally formed to put a Blackfyre pretender on the Iron throne, and all the Blackfyre's are dead, in the show, so Dany/AeJon might help them fulfill their "original" contract and get the legit heir to both Targaryen and Blackfyre legacies on the Iron Throne.

Also, Iron Bank money bought the Golden Company but did they sign a contract with Cersei, Euron, or the Iron Bank. That would make a huge difference in how they act.

They may also have the Targaryen House Valerian sword, Blackfyre, with them.

Euron will escape to Esso if he isn't killed. Old boy won't be captured and he won't go out Seppuku style like Cersei might.

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(04-30-2019 11:31 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 04:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 05:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(04-29-2019 04:43 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  And Arya Stark turned him into ice dust.

What an amazingly epic episode. 10 out of 10. 3 episodes left and I don't see how they could ever top this.

GOT is the most epicly epic epic in the history of epicness.

It really is. That entire episode was amazing. I used to brag about being one of the few who had never watched GOT. And then I watched the first episode and was hooked.


Same here.

I almost had to quit watching it though during the 2nd and 3rd season. Not because it wasn't good but because of all the nudity and the horrible, horrible deaths of the more honorable characters in the show.

In the early years, if you were a "good guy" you were betrayed and gruesomely slaughtered in some terrible way. And that happened over and over again. Even children characters were not immune from the dark cruelty in some episodes.

It so had me hooked on the bigger story lines though that I couldn't walk away, and many terrible deeds got their just rewards the last 2 seasons.

If you aren't disturbed by some things like the red wedding and a few other deaths, then there is something missing inside you.
Wife and I tried it 1 episode. Couldnt get into it for that very reason

For what its worth, the nudity drops off as the series moves forward. It never disappears, but it does seem to be less of the focus. Frankly, I couldnt really figure out much of anything from the first episode. I had been told by several people that GOT was very good (this was around season 4)---So, I stuck with it. After 4 episodes I was hooked. Me and wife binge watched the first 4 season and finished not long before season 5 began. Its kinda funny---I went back later and re-watched the first episode this year and I was amazed at how it was an entirely different experience watching "episode #1" with complete understanding of who all the characters were.
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Some of you guys have invested far too much time in this show to be as erudite as you are. If I have to think too long or hard about what I'm watching I'll generally just turn it back to Nick at Nite.
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