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(04-21-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
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(04-20-2019 01:49 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Late night, like there won’t be a next day. Please stop. Congress is going to move on alright. Let’s see these financials.

And when that’s a nothing burger, subpoena his poop to see if he is doing illegal drugs.....

Democrats. SMH.....

Remember that the Mueller investigation was started and run by Republicans, now it is the Congress’ turn to investigate.

No, now Congress has the option of investigating.
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(04-20-2019 06:41 PM)king king Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 04:18 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 02:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 02:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 01:49 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Late night, like there won’t be a next day. Please stop. Congress is going to move on alright. Let’s see these financials.

Come up with probable cause if you want to see the financials. And "might" is not probable cause.

And actually, I think we probably already have financials. Isn't some sort of financial disclosure required, I believe on an annual basis?

“the secretary of the Treasury (or his delegate) “shall furnish” the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee with any tax return or return information requested in writing.”


The Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

4th amendment was usurped by the Patriot Act.

No hyperbole there...
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(04-21-2019 07:18 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 06:41 PM)king king Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 04:18 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 02:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 02:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Come up with probable cause if you want to see the financials. And "might" is not probable cause.

And actually, I think we probably already have financials. Isn't some sort of financial disclosure required, I believe on an annual basis?

“the secretary of the Treasury (or his delegate) “shall furnish” the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee with any tax return or return information requested in writing.”


The Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

4th amendment was usurped by the Patriot Act.

No hyperbole there...

You may wanna go read Mayfield v US.

Or what happened to Abdullah Al-Kidd and Scalia's remarks about such.

This is the same FBI led by Robert Mueller that you all love (/sarcasm) so much.

The Freedom Act also violates the 4th as collecting and storing data on citizens is not enumerated in article 1 section 8.
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(04-21-2019 08:31 AM)king king Wrote:  his is the same FBI led by Roger Mueller that you all love (/sarcasm) so much.

Robert Mueller, Bobby Three Sticks.
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(04-21-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 08:31 AM)king king Wrote:  his is the same FBI led by Roger Mueller that you all love (/sarcasm) so much.

Robert Mueller, Bobby Three Sticks.

Lol I'll blame that on my phone.
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(04-21-2019 07:17 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 04:12 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 01:49 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Late night, like there won’t be a next day. Please stop. Congress is going to move on alright. Let’s see these financials.

And when that’s a nothing burger, subpoena his poop to see if he is doing illegal drugs.....

Democrats. SMH.....

Remember that the Mueller investigation was started and run by Republicans, now it is the Congress’ turn to investigate.

No, now Congress has the option of investigating.

Doesn't matter. Indict him when he leaves office.
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(04-21-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 04:12 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 01:49 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Late night, like there won’t be a next day. Please stop. Congress is going to move on alright. Let’s see these financials.
And when that’s a nothing burger, subpoena his poop to see if he is doing illegal drugs.....
Democrats. SMH.....
Remember that the Mueller investigation was started and run by Republicans, now it is the Congress’ turn to investigate.

Not exactly. The vast majority of the people directly under Mueller were democrats. Mueller was nominally a republican, but very much an establishment republican, and those folks predominantly hate Trump.
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RE: CNN Waits Until Late Night To Drop Revealing Poll
(04-21-2019 09:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 04:12 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 01:49 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Late night, like there won’t be a next day. Please stop. Congress is going to move on alright. Let’s see these financials.
And when that’s a nothing burger, subpoena his poop to see if he is doing illegal drugs.....
Democrats. SMH.....
Remember that the Mueller investigation was started and run by Republicans, now it is the Congress’ turn to investigate.

Not exactly. The vast majority of the people directly under Mueller were democrats. Mueller was nominally a republican, but very much an establishment republican, and those folks predominantly hate Trump.

People testified under oath with the threat of jail time if they lied. I'll believe those accounts, even Sarah Sanders over Trump who lies daily.
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RE: CNN Waits Until Late Night To Drop Revealing Poll
(04-22-2019 04:44 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 09:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 04:12 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 01:49 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Late night, like there won’t be a next day. Please stop. Congress is going to move on alright. Let’s see these financials.
And when that’s a nothing burger, subpoena his poop to see if he is doing illegal drugs.....
Democrats. SMH.....
Remember that the Mueller investigation was started and run by Republicans, now it is the Congress’ turn to investigate.
Not exactly. The vast majority of the people directly under Mueller were democrats. Mueller was nominally a republican, but very much an establishment republican, and those folks predominantly hate Trump.
People testified under oath with the threat of jail time if they lied. I'll believe those accounts, even Sarah Sanders over Trump who lies daily.

What does that have to do with the biases of Mueller's team?
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RE: CNN Waits Until Late Night To Drop Revealing Poll
(04-22-2019 06:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 04:44 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 09:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 04:12 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  And when that’s a nothing burger, subpoena his poop to see if he is doing illegal drugs.....
Democrats. SMH.....
Remember that the Mueller investigation was started and run by Republicans, now it is the Congress’ turn to investigate.
Not exactly. The vast majority of the people directly under Mueller were democrats. Mueller was nominally a republican, but very much an establishment republican, and those folks predominantly hate Trump.
People testified under oath with the threat of jail time if they lied. I'll believe those accounts, even Sarah Sanders over Trump who lies daily.

What does that have to do with the biases of Mueller's team?

I don't know if there are biases but let's assume that there are some. The witnesses (Trump's people) testified under oath. You can't bias that.
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(04-22-2019 06:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 04:44 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 09:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-20-2019 04:12 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  And when that’s a nothing burger, subpoena his poop to see if he is doing illegal drugs.....
Democrats. SMH.....
Remember that the Mueller investigation was started and run by Republicans, now it is the Congress’ turn to investigate.
Not exactly. The vast majority of the people directly under Mueller were democrats. Mueller was nominally a republican, but very much an establishment republican, and those folks predominantly hate Trump.
People testified under oath with the threat of jail time if they lied. I'll believe those accounts, even Sarah Sanders over Trump who lies daily.

What does that have to do with the biases of Mueller's team?

Nothing. He doesn't need for it to actually have any relevance to throw it out there. Typical democrat.
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(04-22-2019 07:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 06:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 04:44 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 09:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 06:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Remember that the Mueller investigation was started and run by Republicans, now it is the Congress’ turn to investigate.
Not exactly. The vast majority of the people directly under Mueller were democrats. Mueller was nominally a republican, but very much an establishment republican, and those folks predominantly hate Trump.
People testified under oath with the threat of jail time if they lied. I'll believe those accounts, even Sarah Sanders over Trump who lies daily.
What does that have to do with the biases of Mueller's team?
I don't know if there are biases but let's assume that there are some. The witnesses (Trump's people) testified under oath. You can't bias that.

Their testimony consisted of answering questions. The biases, if any, come into play with the questions that were asked. For example, do you take somebody's statement at face value, or do you drill down with follow-up questions?

Be advised that the initial post to which I responded was a claim that this investigation was started and run by republicans. That was the point I countered, because Mueller may have been a republican, but he pretty openly and conspicuously filled out his team with democrats. So let me get this straight, you state the it was all republicans, subtly implying bias, but when I correct you on that point, you shift to say, but the witnesses were testifying under oath. Got it. Umm, the witnesses were testifying under oath, whether the questioner was republican or democrat or communist.
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Keep digging that hole for yourselves deeper and deeper, libs. You're doing the country a huge favor.
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(04-22-2019 07:54 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 07:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 06:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
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(04-21-2019 09:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Not exactly. The vast majority of the people directly under Mueller were democrats. Mueller was nominally a republican, but very much an establishment republican, and those folks predominantly hate Trump.
People testified under oath with the threat of jail time if they lied. I'll believe those accounts, even Sarah Sanders over Trump who lies daily.
What does that have to do with the biases of Mueller's team?
I don't know if there are biases but let's assume that there are some. The witnesses (Trump's people) testified under oath. You can't bias that.

Their testimony consisted of answering questions. The biases, if any, come into play with the questions that were asked. For example, do you take somebody's statement at face value, or do you drill down with follow-up questions?

Be advised that the initial post to which I responded was a claim that this investigation was started and run by republicans. That was the point I countered, because Mueller may have been a republican, but he pretty openly and conspicuously filled out his team with democrats. So let me get this straight, you state the it was all republicans, subtly implying bias, but when I correct you on that point, you shift to say, but the witnesses were testifying under oath. Got it. Umm, the witnesses were testifying under oath, whether the questioner was republican or democrat or communist.

I didn't shift. I acknowledged that you may be right but regardless it didn't matter because the witnesses were under oath (telling the truth).
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(04-22-2019 10:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 07:54 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 07:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 06:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 04:44 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  People testified under oath with the threat of jail time if they lied. I'll believe those accounts, even Sarah Sanders over Trump who lies daily.
What does that have to do with the biases of Mueller's team?
I don't know if there are biases but let's assume that there are some. The witnesses (Trump's people) testified under oath. You can't bias that.
Their testimony consisted of answering questions. The biases, if any, come into play with the questions that were asked. For example, do you take somebody's statement at face value, or do you drill down with follow-up questions?
Be advised that the initial post to which I responded was a claim that this investigation was started and run by republicans. That was the point I countered, because Mueller may have been a republican, but he pretty openly and conspicuously filled out his team with democrats. So let me get this straight, you state the it was all republicans, subtly implying bias, but when I correct you on that point, you shift to say, but the witnesses were testifying under oath. Got it. Umm, the witnesses were testifying under oath, whether the questioner was republican or democrat or communist.
I didn't shift. I acknowledged that you may be right but regardless it didn't matter because the witnesses were under oath (telling the truth).

So what was the point of your post about how the Mueller investigation was, "started and run by republicans," and why did I have to call you out on it before you decided to take the position that it didn't matter?
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(04-22-2019 07:54 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 07:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-22-2019 06:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
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(04-21-2019 09:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Not exactly. The vast majority of the people directly under Mueller were democrats. Mueller was nominally a republican, but very much an establishment republican, and those folks predominantly hate Trump.
People testified under oath with the threat of jail time if they lied. I'll believe those accounts, even Sarah Sanders over Trump who lies daily.
What does that have to do with the biases of Mueller's team?
I don't know if there are biases but let's assume that there are some. The witnesses (Trump's people) testified under oath. You can't bias that.

Their testimony consisted of answering questions. The biases, if any, come into play with the questions that were asked. For example, do you take somebody's statement at face value, or do you drill down with follow-up questions?

Be advised that the initial post to which I responded was a claim that this investigation was started and run by republicans. That was the point I countered, because Mueller may have been a republican, but he pretty openly and conspicuously filled out his team with democrats. So let me get this straight, you state the it was all republicans, subtly implying bias, but when I correct you on that point, you shift to say, but the witnesses were testifying under oath. Got it. Umm, the witnesses were testifying under oath, whether the questioner was republican or democrat or communist.

too many don't factor the bold text into account...
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