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(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

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I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

Tell me, who was president when the election meddling was first discovered and what did he do about it?
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(04-19-2019 04:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

Tell me, who was president when the election meddling was first discovered and what did he do about it?

The Mueller report flatly states that Russia began interfering in American democracy in 2014. Over the next couple of years, the effort blossomed into a robust attempt to interfere in our 2016 presidential election. The Obama administration knew this was going on and yet did nothing. In 2016, Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice told her staff to "stand down" and "knock it off" as they drew up plans to "strike back" against the Russians, according to an account from Michael Isikoff and David Corn in their book "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump".

Given Obama's record on Russia, one operating theory is that his people needed a smokescreen to obscure just how wrong they were. They've blamed Trump. They've even blamed Mitch McConnell, in some twisted attempt to deflect blame to another branch of government. Joe Biden once claimed McConnell refused to sign a letter condemning the Russians during the 2016 election. But McConnell's office counters that the White House asked him to sign a letter urging state electors to accept federal help in securing local elections -- and he did. You can read it here.
I guess if I had failed to stop Russia from marching into Crimea, making a mess in Syria, and hacking our democracy I'd be looking to blame someone else, too.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/opinions/...index.html
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RE: Mueller: Obstruction by Trump failed because others refused to "carry out orders"
(04-18-2019 02:01 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Total vindication...03-lmfao


"The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests," the report said.

You DO understand the meaningful difference between 'influence' and 'obstruct', right? Not to mention the very important difference between it being done and not.

I may want someone's dog to stop barking, but that's entirely different from wanting them dead. I may ask people to do whatever they can to shut them up and if they don't, I'm not guilty of shutting them up


Gee... Trump didn't want an investigation into 'nothing' to continue.

IMPEACH!!
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(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

Swag... "The 1980s called. They want their Cold War back." - sitting U.S. President, 2012.
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(04-19-2019 03:01 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(04-19-2019 08:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.
FBI to DNC. Russians are hacking. DNC did NOTHING.
FBI to Obama. Russians are hacking. Obama did basically nothing.

Hussein did nothing until Helliar lost. Then he chunked some sanctions on dem SOBs......Barry is a real tuff guy....

stellar point. the obama administration KNEW what was going on, and they ignored it because . . . they were supremely confident that hillary would win. they didn't want to rock the boat.

well, guess what, b*tches -- DJT flipped the script.
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(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

Quit being so dramatic, Francis.

They hacked your email. Nobody died. We're concerned about it, but we don't live in fear of shadows. It's the new cold/cyber war.

What's most concerning to me is that your own 'joint intelligence report' upon which much of the original fear-mongering was based said that their intention was to undermine confidence in our system..... and they have been doing it since they were the USSR

which the left has done yeoman's work in assisting, and what political doctrines are being presented by the left in response to it?

Socialism

You don't even remotely see the irony here? Has nothing to do with Trump.,.. If you want to say that he's the reason that's fine... but you're being TOTALLY complicit and LITERALLY providing them with their desired results. The right may have provided the impetus, but it's not the right providing the welcome mat
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(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao Oh man, that's so rich in irony it aint even funny.

It could just as easily have been written like this:

It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the left coalesce around their dear leader. Karl Barry Marx.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.
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(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

That's BS of the highest degree. NO ONE is denying the Russians attempted to meddle. No one "doesn't care". The difference is that we understand this isn't new. Furthermore, this latest event occurred on your boys watch and he said ZILCH about it until he saw it as politically expedient.
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(04-18-2019 11:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 02:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He ordered his people to obstruct and they were wise enough to ignore him. Nice.

In other words, he either didnt obstruct or, changed his tactics when advised something might be construed as obstruction. Im still confused on how you have obstruction of justice when there is no crime. Thats probably because nobody is EVER charged with obstruction when there is no underlying crime.

So sad that the obsession with the Collusion Delusion has Democrats so deranged.

He attempted to collude and obstruct in a crime that never occurred.
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(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.
That's BS of the highest degree. NO ONE is denying the Russians attempted to meddle. No one "doesn't care". The difference is that we understand this isn't new. Furthermore, this latest event occurred on your boys watch and he said ZILCH about it until he saw it as politically expedient.

Two points.
1) Nobody is denying that the Russians tried to hack us. So did the Chinese, by the way. And probably 20-30 other countries, just as we do to them. It's called modern espionage, and it is a critical element of defending the country. Where I am really disappointed in the Mueller investigation is that it did not go more in depth about how to protect against future attacks. I guess it was more supportive of the objectives of the democrat/pro-establishment team that they go after Manafort's 10-year old tax returns. And is it the fault of "the Russians" for doing what we know they do, and what we do to them, or of Hillary's team for not taking appropriate precautions in that environment? The Clinton team is noted for its cavalier attitude toward information security, from Sandy Berger to Hillary's server to the DNC hacking, by whoever did it. I think that is a disqualifying weakness. By the way, I think at least one motivation for the idea that Russia hacked because of Trump is to deflect from the certainty that "the Russians" (and everybody else) hacked Hillary's server.

2) Our democracy was not attacked. Spare the hyperbole. The DNC and Podesta were hacked because they did not observe proper security precautions. At most, that is an attack on the DNC and Podesta. Last I checked, the DNC and Podesta are not "our democracy." And I still don't get the "Russia wanted Trump to win" line of argument. Why would Russia go overboard to support a candidate given no chance to win? That makes no sense. What Russia wanted to do was to sow discord and discontent. To do that, you back the guy who has no chance to win. Only he won. But you still got the discord and discontent. Congrats, democrats, for giving Putin what he wanted.
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(04-19-2019 04:44 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(04-19-2019 04:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

Tell me, who was president when the election meddling was first discovered and what did he do about it?

The Mueller report flatly states that Russia began interfering in American democracy in 2014. Over the next couple of years, the effort blossomed into a robust attempt to interfere in our 2016 presidential election. The Obama administration knew this was going on and yet did nothing. In 2016, Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice told her staff to "stand down" and "knock it off" as they drew up plans to "strike back" against the Russians, according to an account from Michael Isikoff and David Corn in their book "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump".

Given Obama's record on Russia, one operating theory is that his people needed a smokescreen to obscure just how wrong they were. They've blamed Trump. They've even blamed Mitch McConnell, in some twisted attempt to deflect blame to another branch of government. Joe Biden once claimed McConnell refused to sign a letter condemning the Russians during the 2016 election. But McConnell's office counters that the White House asked him to sign a letter urging state electors to accept federal help in securing local elections -- and he did. You can read it here.
I guess if I had failed to stop Russia from marching into Crimea, making a mess in Syria, and hacking our democracy I'd be looking to blame someone else, too.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/opinions/...index.html


Lol

Corn and isikoff to the rescue yet again, the morons.

And Mueller finally cracked the case of Russian meddling. In 2014.

Little late to the game tho’, “Russia” has been interfering in our elections since around 1945-1/2.

But, mmmmkay.
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(04-21-2019 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-21-2019 09:22 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.
That's BS of the highest degree. NO ONE is denying the Russians attempted to meddle. No one "doesn't care". The difference is that we understand this isn't new. Furthermore, this latest event occurred on your boys watch and he said ZILCH about it until he saw it as politically expedient.

Two points.
1) Nobody is denying that the Russians tried to hack us. So did the Chinese, by the way. And probably 20-30 other countries, just as we do to them. It's called modern espionage, and it is a critical element of defending the country. Where I am really disappointed in the Mueller investigation is that it did not go more in depth about how to protect against future attacks. I guess it was more supportive of the objectives of the democrat/pro-establishment team that they go after Manafort's 10-year old tax returns. And is it the fault of "the Russians" for doing what we know they do, and what we do to them, or of Hillary's team for not taking appropriate precautions in that environment? The Clinton team is noted for its cavalier attitude toward information security, from Sandy Berger to Hillary's server to the DNC hacking, by whoever did it. I think that is a disqualifying weakness. By the way, I think at least one motivation for the idea that Russia hacked because of Trump is to deflect from the certainty that "the Russians" (and everybody else) hacked Hillary's server.

2) Our democracy was not attacked. Spare the hyperbole. The DNC and Podesta were hacked because they did not observe proper security precautions. At most, that is an attack on the DNC and Podesta. Last I checked, the DNC and Podesta are not "our democracy." And I still don't get the "Russia wanted Trump to win" line of argument. Why would Russia go overboard to support a candidate given no chance to win? That makes no sense. What Russia wanted to do was to sow discord and discontent. To do that, you back the guy who has no chance to win. Only he won. But you still got the discord and discontent. Congrats, democrats, for giving Putin what he wanted.

And of course, the first Mueller report says the Russians aided Hillary's and Bernie's campaign as well. Hillary less than the other two, but they did put on at least 4 Hillary events.
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https://nationalinterest.org/feature/wha...eans-53582

Author scours Sessions, Rosenstein and Mueller.

"...Rosenstein should never have tolerated the assembly by Mueller of an investigative team that was so incandescently partisan and anti-Trump, and the acting FBI director, Andrew McCabe, was too conflicted, with his wife’s status as a Democratic state candidate in Virginia and protegee of the Clintons, and should never have had anything to do with any of it. All of these positions that should have been adopted but were not, should have been looked into by Mueller, instead of his wasting over a year in nonsense about obstruction, when it was obvious from the first day that there had been no crime to cover up or incite obstruction. He would have stayed closer to his assignment if he had chased up the Steele dossier and armed himself to report what the intelligence directors, John Brennan and James Clapper, and Comey and McCabe, and the third-ranking officer of the Justice Department, Bruce Ohr, were doing passing the Steele dossier to the media. Instead, an echo chamber was created where the anti-Trump media and then the Clinton campaign, before and after the election, cited the fruit of their own leaks from a paid propaganda hit-job as ostensibly serious evidence of nearly treasonable wrongdoing by the man who, despite this unprecedented campaign of dirty tricks inflicted on him, was the rightful elected president of the United States.

Mueller failed at every stage except the reluctant and slightly conditionalized admission that there was no basis to the original subject of his investigation. What has been partially unearthed, with little thanks to Mueller, is that senior intelligence and FBI and Justice Department officials lied under oath to Congress, or lied to federal officials, and/or misled the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Court, all serious criminal offenses, (unlike any activity by the president), in order to influence the result, and then reverse the result, of a presidential election. In terms of subversion of the highest constitutional process, the selection of the president and vice president of the United States, this sort of activity, that Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, former attorney general Loretta Lynch and others appear to have engaged in, is the last stop before there are tanks on the White House lawn and military control of the media outlets. Mueller, having failed to do anything to address the real crisis that threatened the country, failed altogether, and compounded his failure by his sadistic entrapment of General Michael Flynn, and hounding of Paul Manafort and others, far beyond what was necessary or excusable, in an effort to extort a false inculpation of the president...."
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(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.
That's BS of the highest degree. NO ONE is denying the Russians attempted to meddle. No one "doesn't care". The difference is that we understand this isn't new. Furthermore, this latest event occurred on your boys watch and he said ZILCH about it until he saw it as politically expedient.

Two points.
1) Nobody is denying that the Russians tried to hack us. So did the Chinese, by the way. And probably 20-30 other countries, just as we do to them. It's called modern espionage, and it is a critical element of defending the country. Where I am really disappointed in the Mueller investigation is that it did not go more in depth about how to protect against future attacks. I guess it was more supportive of the objectives of the democrat/pro-establishment team that they go after Manafort's 10-year old tax returns. And is it the fault of "the Russians" for doing what we know they do, and what we do to them, or of Hillary's team for not taking appropriate precautions in that environment? The Clinton team is noted for its cavalier attitude toward information security, from Sandy Berger to Hillary's server to the DNC hacking, by whoever did it. I think that is a disqualifying weakness. By the way, I think at least one motivation for the idea that Russia hacked because of Trump is to deflect from the certainty that "the Russians" (and everybody else) hacked Hillary's server.

2) Our democracy was not attacked. Spare the hyperbole. The DNC and Podesta were hacked because they did not observe proper security precautions. At most, that is an attack on the DNC and Podesta. Last I checked, the DNC and Podesta are not "our democracy." And I still don't get the "Russia wanted Trump to win" line of argument. Why would Russia go overboard to support a candidate given no chance to win? That makes no sense. What Russia wanted to do was to sow discord and discontent. To do that, you back the guy who has no chance to win. Only he won. But you still got the discord and discontent. Congrats, democrats, for giving Putin what he wanted.

And of course, the first Mueller report says the Russians aided Hillary's and Bernie's campaign as well. Hillary less than the other two, but they did put on at least 4 Hillary events.


And to add, why on earth would they, could they, possibly want the Drumpf to win?
A. Wholly unpredictable, we’ve seen that in bushelbaskets thus far. NO way they wanted an outsider, anti-establishment, anti-globalism, anti socialism person in there. Just look at what it’s cost them already. What’s the life’s blood of pootey-poot and the oligarchs?

B. They already OWNED the Cank, (ur1), Bubba (500mm$ speeches), AND the blundering idiot podesta (podesta group).

This and so many other things are why not a damn bit of this made any sense from day one, and as we’ve ALL seen by now, even if some still won’t admit it, it didn’t and still doesn’t.

Enjoy exploring the rabbit holes even further for the next 18-1/2 months, you’ll have plenty of free time after that to do whatever you’d like.

Maybe take up the violin or learn to code...
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The Trump campaign has fired McGahn's law firm.
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Their goal according to the joint intelligence report was to sew discord/decrease faith... not to 'get Trump elected'.

That's a clear and important distinction. Obviously getting Trump elected, mostly because of the left's reaction has sewn that discord.... but they weren't trying to get him elected in order to have an 'in'... which was the charge

Democrats have clearly helped accomplish their goal
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(04-22-2019 09:54 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Their goal according to the joint intelligence report was to sew discord/decrease faith... not to 'get Trump elected'.

That's a clear and important distinction. Obviously getting Trump elected, mostly because of the left's reaction has sewn that discord.... but they weren't trying to get him elected in order to have an 'in'... which was the charge

Democrats have clearly helped accomplish their goal

And do so every day. People like Nadler and Schiff are Putin's best agents.
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(04-22-2019 04:39 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  The Trump campaign has fired McGahn's law firm.

As they should since he gave Mueller 3 (three) different versions of the “fire Mueller” story. Obviously until Weismann liked one....
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(04-21-2019 11:27 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
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(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.
That's BS of the highest degree. NO ONE is denying the Russians attempted to meddle. No one "doesn't care". The difference is that we understand this isn't new. Furthermore, this latest event occurred on your boys watch and he said ZILCH about it until he saw it as politically expedient.

Two points.
1) Nobody is denying that the Russians tried to hack us. So did the Chinese, by the way. And probably 20-30 other countries, just as we do to them. It's called modern espionage, and it is a critical element of defending the country. Where I am really disappointed in the Mueller investigation is that it did not go more in depth about how to protect against future attacks. I guess it was more supportive of the objectives of the democrat/pro-establishment team that they go after Manafort's 10-year old tax returns. And is it the fault of "the Russians" for doing what we know they do, and what we do to them, or of Hillary's team for not taking appropriate precautions in that environment? The Clinton team is noted for its cavalier attitude toward information security, from Sandy Berger to Hillary's server to the DNC hacking, by whoever did it. I think that is a disqualifying weakness. By the way, I think at least one motivation for the idea that Russia hacked because of Trump is to deflect from the certainty that "the Russians" (and everybody else) hacked Hillary's server.

2) Our democracy was not attacked. Spare the hyperbole. The DNC and Podesta were hacked because they did not observe proper security precautions. At most, that is an attack on the DNC and Podesta. Last I checked, the DNC and Podesta are not "our democracy." And I still don't get the "Russia wanted Trump to win" line of argument. Why would Russia go overboard to support a candidate given no chance to win? That makes no sense. What Russia wanted to do was to sow discord and discontent. To do that, you back the guy who has no chance to win. Only he won. But you still got the discord and discontent. Congrats, democrats, for giving Putin what he wanted.

And of course, the first Mueller report says the Russians aided Hillary's and Bernie's campaign as well. Hillary less than the other two, but they did put on at least 4 Hillary events.


And to add, why on earth would they, could they, possibly want the Drumpf to win?
A. Wholly unpredictable, we’ve seen that in bushelbaskets thus far. NO way they wanted an outsider, anti-establishment, anti-globalism, anti socialism person in there. Just look at what it’s cost them already. What’s the life’s blood of pootey-poot and the oligarchs?

B. They already OWNED the Cank, (ur1), Bubba (500mm$ speeches), AND the blundering idiot podesta (podesta group).

This and so many other things are why not a damn bit of this made any sense from day one, and as we’ve ALL seen by now, even if some still won’t admit it, it didn’t and still doesn’t.

Enjoy exploring the rabbit holes even further for the next 18-1/2 months, you’ll have plenty of free time after that to do whatever you’d like.

Maybe take up the violin or learn to code...

Don’t forget the Russians supplied the Clinton campaign with the biggest bone of all, the Steele Dossier. Anyone believing the Russians were all in for Trump should have a hard time reconciling that known fact.
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Trump is the first president that nobody listens to. SAD

He's such a nut job, none of the intelligence agencies trust him. I'm pretty sure that he doesn't even know half of what the real leaders in the government know. He probably just seeks the information needed to punish those who talk bad about him. What a loser. President short bus says he's happy about all this. Fake news.
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