(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

FBI to DNC. Russians are hacking. DNC did NOTHING.
FBI to Obama. Russians are hacking. Obama did basically nothing.

(04-18-2019 03:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 03:30 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I walked by the TV at work and saw this being parroted by the MSM so it's definitely a talking point. You can tell they have nothing and are reaching for literally anything.

Keep reading. There is a whole lot here. Very similar to Nixon.

Paraphrasing:

Dean to Nixon. "What I have done and you are proposing is obstruction." Nixon. "We need to shut this investigation down."

Sessions to Trump. "That would be obstruction." Trump. "****! Ok.

Rice & Comey to Obama. "We have opposition research that says Trump pissed on your hotel bed in Moscow." Obama. "Followup and use the full resources of the government. Then don't talk to Trump about it."

It looks like Trump's staff saved him, that's why you hire a staff.

(04-19-2019 08:49 AM)fsquid Wrote:  It looks like Trump's staff saved him, that's why you hire a staff.

Pretty much.

If Trump wanted to obstruct, he would have shut down the probe. He didnt need underlings permission to do so. He didnt shut down the probe or obstruct it in any way.

oh, my. he is definitely guilty of somewhat saying that something that could conceivably lead to suspicion of possibly thinking about somewhat potentially hindering the "investigation" of something that didn't actually happen.

impeach him.

Do I believe that if he could have obstructed this without getting caught he would have done it? Absolutely. Do I think he actually obstructed? Absolutely not. Thinking something and wanting to do something is not a crime...yet.

Look.... This guy is no bastion of moral character. That has long ego been established.

Yes or No

Can there be obstruction of justice if there is no underlying crime?

(04-19-2019 11:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Do I believe that if he could have obstructed this without getting caught he would have done it? Absolutely. Do I think he actually obstructed? Absolutely not. Thinking something and wanting to do something is not a crime...yet.

Look.... This guy is no bastion of moral character. That has long ego been established.

So you're saying president law and order doesn't really care about that?

(04-19-2019 08:49 AM)fsquid Wrote:  It looks like Trump's staff saved him, that's why you hire a staff.

And every person that stood in the path of his irresponsible, erratic impulses have been either fired or forced to resign.

(04-18-2019 03:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 03:30 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I walked by the TV at work and saw this being parroted by the MSM so it's definitely a talking point. You can tell they have nothing and are reaching for literally anything.

Keep reading. There is a whole lot here. Very similar to Nixon.

Pffffffffffffffffft ........... not even close


Obstruction involves intent, making it a difficult area of law

(04-19-2019 12:20 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 11:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Do I believe that if he could have obstructed this without getting caught he would have done it? Absolutely. Do I think he actually obstructed? Absolutely not. Thinking something and wanting to do something is not a crime...yet.

Look.... This guy is no bastion of moral character. That has long ego been established.

So you're saying president law and order doesn't really care about that?

He would not be the first hypocrite in the White House.

(04-19-2019 11:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Do I believe that if he could have obstructed this without getting caught he would have done it? Absolutely. Do I think he actually obstructed? Absolutely not. Thinking something and wanting to do something is not a crime...yet.

Look.... This guy is no bastion of moral character. That has long ego been established.

It is a crime to the "New Thought Police", i.e., the Demoncraptic Party.

(04-19-2019 02:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 11:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Do I believe that if he could have obstructed this without getting caught he would have done it? Absolutely. Do I think he actually obstructed? Absolutely not. Thinking something and wanting to do something is not a crime...yet.

Look.... This guy is no bastion of moral character. That has long ego been established.

It is a crime to the "New Thought Police", i.e., the Demoncraptic Party.

The ironic thing is that if they could be arrested for what they think of Trump they'd all been in jail a long time ago.

(04-19-2019 12:39 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 08:49 AM)fsquid Wrote:  It looks like Trump's staff saved him, that's why you hire a staff.

And every person that stood in the path of his irresponsible, erratic impulses have been either fired or forced to resign.

....and when has that ever been a crime?

(04-19-2019 08:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

FBI to DNC. Russians are hacking. DNC did NOTHING.
FBI to Obama. Russians are hacking. Obama did basically nothing.

Russians were doing the same thing they did in 08 and 12, which is why Obama did nothing.

(04-19-2019 12:39 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 08:49 AM)fsquid Wrote:  It looks like Trump's staff saved him, that's why you hire a staff.

And every person that stood in the path of his irresponsible, erratic impulses have been either fired or forced to resign.

Ok he fires people you are 30 years late

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(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

We may not care but you nuts go along with em.....

(04-18-2019 11:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 02:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He ordered his people to obstruct and they were wise enough to ignore him. Nice.

In other words, he either didnt obstruct or, changed his tactics when advised something might be construed as obstruction. Im still confused on how you have obstruction of justice when there is no crime. Thats probably because nobody is EVER charged with obstruction when there is no underlying crime.

So sad that the obsession with the Collusion Delusion has Democrats so deranged.

But didn’t you know that being broke and saying “I ought to rob a bank” but never doing it is robbing a bank? SMH at the idiocy and desperation of the left......

(04-19-2019 08:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 10:43 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 09:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It’s such an interesting dynamic watching the right coalesce around their dear leader. Kim Jung Unish.........

It’s a cult of personality. They are invested. Probably goose stepping in their living rooms singing songs of praise to him.

Sad

I understand their loyalty to the right and conservative cause but the Russians attacked us and they don’t care. That is most concerning.

FBI to DNC. Russians are hacking. DNC did NOTHING.
FBI to Obama. Russians are hacking. Obama did basically nothing.

Hussein did nothing until Helliar lost. Then he chunked some sanctions on dem SOBs......Barry is a real tuff guy....