(08-24-2022 03:56 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  1. I don't think we should be excluding representation of this race or that race, even if if it is the race that has suffered the least historical discrimination.

2. It's a fourth grade class - what are they supposed to be coloring?

The fact that 4th grade kids are still doing coloring books seems like the elephant in the room. When I was in 4th grade, we were writing book reports and printing a newspaper.

If the races were reversed - if she was eliminating any mention or representation of black people from the study materials - would that be a problem?

I think the Progressives would be up in arms over that.

esential or burning money

Interviews with debtors.

Not sure what a Master's in Legal Studies does for a living. Tanq?

(08-25-2022 09:25 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If the races were reversed - if she was eliminating any mention or representation of black people from the study materials - would that be a problem?

I think the Progressives would be up in arms over that.

They would be. That is 'bad' discrimination. Not 'good' discrimination. Which, to some, makes 'discrimination' not 'discrimination.'

(08-25-2022 09:55 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 09:25 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If the races were reversed - if she was eliminating any mention or representation of black people from the study materials - would that be a problem?

I think the Progressives would be up in arms over that.

They would be. That is 'bad' discrimination. Not 'good' discrimination. Which, to some, makes 'discrimination' not 'discrimination.'

Good discrimination and bad discrimination? That completely explains how so many Democrats can be in favor of certain discriminatory practices while maintaining that they are against discrimination.

(08-25-2022 10:13 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 09:55 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 09:25 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If the races were reversed - if she was eliminating any mention or representation of black people from the study materials - would that be a problem?

I think the Progressives would be up in arms over that.

They would be. That is 'bad' discrimination. Not 'good' discrimination. Which, to some, makes 'discrimination' not 'discrimination.'

Good discrimination and bad discrimination? That completely explains how so many Democrats can be in favor of certain discriminatory practices while maintaining that they are against discrimination.

What is that word that means 'based on race'? I keep forgetting it.

(08-25-2022 10:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:13 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 09:55 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 09:25 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If the races were reversed - if she was eliminating any mention or representation of black people from the study materials - would that be a problem?

I think the Progressives would be up in arms over that.

They would be. That is 'bad' discrimination. Not 'good' discrimination. Which, to some, makes 'discrimination' not 'discrimination.'

Good discrimination and bad discrimination? That completely explains how so many Democrats can be in favor of certain discriminatory practices while maintaining that they are against discrimination.

What is that word that means 'based on race'? I keep forgetting it.

Equity? Fairness?

IRS to wipe out debt

Well, late fees.

(08-25-2022 10:18 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:13 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 09:55 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 09:25 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If the races were reversed - if she was eliminating any mention or representation of black people from the study materials - would that be a problem?

I think the Progressives would be up in arms over that.

They would be. That is 'bad' discrimination. Not 'good' discrimination. Which, to some, makes 'discrimination' not 'discrimination.'

Good discrimination and bad discrimination? That completely explains how so many Democrats can be in favor of certain discriminatory practices while maintaining that they are against discrimination.

What is that word that means 'based on race'? I keep forgetting it.

Equity? Fairness?

R- something. I think it rhymes with bassist.

(08-25-2022 11:18 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:18 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:13 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 09:55 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  They would be. That is 'bad' discrimination. Not 'good' discrimination. Which, to some, makes 'discrimination' not 'discrimination.'

Good discrimination and bad discrimination? That completely explains how so many Democrats can be in favor of certain discriminatory practices while maintaining that they are against discrimination.

What is that word that means 'based on race'? I keep forgetting it.

Equity? Fairness?

R- something. I think it rhymes with bassist.

Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

(08-25-2022 11:43 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:18 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:18 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:13 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Good discrimination and bad discrimination? That completely explains how so many Democrats can be in favor of certain discriminatory practices while maintaining that they are against discrimination.

What is that word that means 'based on race'? I keep forgetting it.

Equity? Fairness?

R- something. I think it rhymes with bassist.

Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

Wind section?

(08-25-2022 04:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:43 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:18 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:18 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  What is that word that means 'based on race'? I keep forgetting it.

Equity? Fairness?

R- something. I think it rhymes with bassist.

Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

Wind section?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassist

"A bassist (also known as a bass player or bass guitarist) is a musician who plays a bass instrument such as a double bass (upright bass, contrabass, wood bass), bass guitar (electric bass, acoustic bass), synthbass, keyboard bass or a low brass instrument such as a tuba or trombone."

(08-25-2022 04:14 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:43 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:18 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:18 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Equity? Fairness?

R- something. I think it rhymes with bassist.

Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

Wind section?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassist

"A bassist (also known as a bass player or bass guitarist) is a musician who plays a bass instrument such as a double bass (upright bass, contrabass, wood bass), bass guitar (electric bass, acoustic bass), synthbass, keyboard bass or a low brass instrument such as a tuba or trombone."

Huh. I would never think of musicians who play the tuba or trombone as "bassists".

(08-25-2022 04:30 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:14 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:43 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:18 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  R- something. I think it rhymes with bassist.

Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

Wind section?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassist

"A bassist (also known as a bass player or bass guitarist) is a musician who plays a bass instrument such as a double bass (upright bass, contrabass, wood bass), bass guitar (electric bass, acoustic bass), synthbass, keyboard bass or a low brass instrument such as a tuba or trombone."

Huh. I would never think of musicians who play the tuba or trombone as "bassists".

How about the bassoon?

(08-25-2022 04:34 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:30 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:14 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:43 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

Wind section?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassist

"A bassist (also known as a bass player or bass guitarist) is a musician who plays a bass instrument such as a double bass (upright bass, contrabass, wood bass), bass guitar (electric bass, acoustic bass), synthbass, keyboard bass or a low brass instrument such as a tuba or trombone."

Huh. I would never think of musicians who play the tuba or trombone as "bassists".

How about the bassoon?

I would think of them as bassoonists (not bassists).

(08-25-2022 04:14 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:43 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:18 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 10:18 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Equity? Fairness?

R- something. I think it rhymes with bassist.

Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

Wind section?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassist

"A bassist (also known as a bass player or bass guitarist) is a musician who plays a bass instrument such as a double bass (upright bass, contrabass, wood bass), bass guitar (electric bass, acoustic bass), synthbass, keyboard bass or a low brass instrument such as a tuba or trombone."

None of those are wind instruments (i.e. in the wind section) mind you.

(08-25-2022 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:14 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:43 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:18 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  R- something. I think it rhymes with bassist.

Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

Wind section?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassist

"A bassist (also known as a bass player or bass guitarist) is a musician who plays a bass instrument such as a double bass (upright bass, contrabass, wood bass), bass guitar (electric bass, acoustic bass), synthbass, keyboard bass or a low brass instrument such as a tuba or trombone."

None of those are wind instruments (i.e. in the wind section) mind you.

I am exceptionally nonmusical.

Is it bad if I laugh at the 40 somethings I graduated with that a) have outstanding student loan debt and b) don't make $125k/yr? These are the same people I see on social media taking European vacations etc. While I penny counted my way thru my 20s paying off my loans, these people were leveraged to the max just trying to stay cash flow neutral, now they get an admittedly small bailout. Just a little infuriating for those who took care of business.

(08-25-2022 06:23 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 05:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:14 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 04:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-25-2022 11:43 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Knew it was something musical in the wind section.

Wind section?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassist

"A bassist (also known as a bass player or bass guitarist) is a musician who plays a bass instrument such as a double bass (upright bass, contrabass, wood bass), bass guitar (electric bass, acoustic bass), synthbass, keyboard bass or a low brass instrument such as a tuba or trombone."

None of those are wind instruments (i.e. in the wind section) mind you.

I am exceptionally nonmusical.

So dont toot your own horn about that....


(sorry couldnt resist...)

(08-25-2022 07:00 PM)flash3200 Wrote:  Is it bad if I laugh at the 40 somethings I graduated with that a) have outstanding student loan debt and b) don't make $125k/yr? These are the same people I see on social media taking European vacations etc. While I penny counted my way thru my 20s paying off my loans, these people were leveraged to the max just trying to stay cash flow neutral, now they get an admittedly small bailout. Just a little infuriating for those who took care of business.

Given Rice’s price tag back then, it’s shocking to hear that there are peers of yours from Rice in that situation. 20 years to dig into and cover tuition that, I’m guessing, was $20k per year?

But I also wonder what career they went into to be making < $125k per year 20+ years after graduating. Social work?