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(05-10-2019 01:24 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  FWIW, NKU Center Chris Vogt has entered the transfer portal.

He was a three star in high school at 6'9" then had a big growth spurt to 7'1". Not sure if Brannen has interest in him or vice versa but if he sat a year he might became a great back up player like Jeff Scott was with Huggins.

He went off in a few games. I'd take him.

(05-10-2019 01:25 PM)dsquare Wrote:  How many years does Vogt have left?

was his redshirt freshman year last year.. could be wrong but I believe he has 3 years left.

(05-10-2019 01:30 PM)geef Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 12:58 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  FWIW, NKU Center Chris Vogt has entered the transfer portal.

what if you entered the transfer portal, and never got out?

Are we about to start talking LSD again?

if everyone's cool with it

(05-10-2019 01:31 PM)geef Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 01:24 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  FWIW, NKU Center Chris Vogt has entered the transfer portal.

He was a three star in high school at 6'9" then had a big growth spurt to 7'1". Not sure if Brannen has interest in him or vice versa but if he sat a year he might became a great back up player like Jeff Scott was with Huggins.

He went off in a few games. I'd take him.

Only played 12.9 MPG last season, mainly because McDonald and Dalton were such forces for NKU. But Vogt averaged a double-double per 40 minutes. Yes, I'd absolutely take him.

(05-10-2019 01:47 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 01:31 PM)geef Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 01:24 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  FWIW, NKU Center Chris Vogt has entered the transfer portal.

He was a three star in high school at 6'9" then had a big growth spurt to 7'1". Not sure if Brannen has interest in him or vice versa but if he sat a year he might became a great back up player like Jeff Scott was with Huggins.

He went off in a few games. I'd take him.

Only played 12.9 MPG last season, mainly because McDonald and Dalton were such forces for NKU. But Vogt averaged a double-double per 40 minutes. Yes, I'd absolutely take him.

In the other thread on the main board regarding transfers, it was brought up how Nysier couldn't play a full game.. only averaged 23 mins/game because of foul trouble. If Vogt doubled his PT last year and played 23 mins/game he'd be putting up similar numbers to Brooks of roughly 9-10 points 8 rebounds with stronger shot-blocking presence albeit against lesser competition. His 39% free throw % is woeful.

Not saying he's a day 1 replacement for Brooks. But he could step in and contribute.

Math may be wrong here but per sportsreference.com on a per40 min basis:

Brooks: 14.1pts, 11rbs, 2.6blks
Vogt: 14.0 pts, 11.5rbs, 3.7blks

If Brannen thinks Vogt can help, I'm all for it considering he knows his game better than any other college coach out there. For what it's worth, his recruiting ranking was about the same as Trevor Moore and much higher than Nsoseme so he's not really that much of a reach.

Can he get a waiver here since he would be following his coach?

(05-21-2019 07:48 PM)eroc Wrote:  

Big body that can give us 10-15 minutes, a few fouls and some rebounds off the bench. Nothing exciting, but you take what you can get this late in the game.

Big strong kid. He also looks to be a pretty good ft shooter for a big guy at about 70% for his career. Played a lot of international ball as well. Definitely would be a solid pickup for a year.

In comparison to Sorolla, Vogt looks like a star. Not seeing much positive about another backup big from a small conference.

His rebound percentages are low (only 6.8% ORB which is terrible for a guy his size), 11% TRB (Brooks was 16.5%). 21% Turnover rate (Brooks was 11%), only 96.2 ORTg and a negative offensive plus minus. He's a big body who can block shots and fill the paint on D, but don't expect him to be able to step out and guard 3-point shooters. On O, probably don't want him touching the ball for anything but a wide open dunk. But we've got plenty of scholarships to throw around and need a center, so if Sorolla is the best we can do might as well take him. He's a clear downgrade even in comparison to Nsoseme, but beggars can't be choosers.

(05-22-2019 07:16 AM)skyblade Wrote:  In comparison to Sorolla, Vogt looks like a star. Not seeing much positive about another backup big from a small conference.

His rebound percentages are low (only 6.8% ORB which is terrible for a guy his size), 11% TRB (Brooks was 16.5%). 21% Turnover rate (Brooks was 11%), only 96.2 ORTg and a negative offensive plus minus. He's a big body who can block shots and fill the paint on D, but don't expect him to be able to step out and guard 3-point shooters. On O, probably don't want him touching the ball for anything but a wide open dunk. But we've got plenty of scholarships to throw around and need a center, so if Sorolla is the best we can do might as well take him. He's a clear downgrade even in comparison to Nsoseme, but beggars can't be choosers.

Bolded, I'll pass judgment when the roster is completed. Clearly, Mick's late departure and a couple of players leaving mean we'll need patches on the tire for next season. There was a noticeable drop-off last season when Brooks went to the bench with foul trouble so Brannen will have to figure out a rotation of guys or go without a true center. The man has proven he can coach so we'll see how he compensates.

Offensive rebouding %'s are often a worthless statistic. Not all teams put their big guys in a position to rebound the bball. It can be a matter of style.

(05-22-2019 02:35 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Offensive rebouding %'s are often a worthless statistic. Not all teams put their big guys in a position to rebound the bball. It can be a matter of style.

He's a majorly offensively challenged 7-footer, who doesn't have much of an offensive game from beyond 5-feet from the hoop. If he's not by the hoop, what is he doing?

Also, he's the backup to another 7-footer, so even if you think the stat is worthless in comparison to other teams. it should be work in comparison to the player he backs up who is a very similar size and has a very similar (lack of) offensive game away from the basket. Valpo's starter, Derrik Smits averaged a very respectable 11.3 ORB%, Sorolla's 6.8% was still terrible in comparison.

(05-22-2019 03:32 PM)skyblade Wrote:  

(05-22-2019 02:35 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Offensive rebouding %'s are often a worthless statistic. Not all teams put their big guys in a position to rebound the bball. It can be a matter of style.

If he's not by the hoop, what is he doing?

Playing out of position for a center or setting a pick?

He missed the first six games last year with ankle injury which he rehabbed in Spain. He evidently can shoot the ball; he was over 70% from foul line for his three years. He was 2 for 2 on three point shots last year.

(05-22-2019 07:16 AM)skyblade Wrote:  In comparison to Sorolla, Vogt looks like a star. Not seeing much positive about another backup big from a small conference.

His rebound percentages are low (only 6.8% ORB which is terrible for a guy his size), 11% TRB (Brooks was 16.5%). 21% Turnover rate (Brooks was 11%), only 96.2 ORTg and a negative offensive plus minus. He's a big body who can block shots and fill the paint on D, but don't expect him to be able to step out and guard 3-point shooters. On O, probably don't want him touching the ball for anything but a wide open dunk. But we've got plenty of scholarships to throw around and need a center, so if Sorolla is the best we can do might as well take him. He's a clear downgrade even in comparison to Nsoseme, but beggars can't be choosers.

lol Hepblade with the shade on all Brannen guys.

I'm more worried about his deflections.

Coach Brannen: “Ok men, I know in the past we closely monitored deflections in this program. Well now we’re gonna monitor scoring buckets. Any questions?”

Team: <blank stares>

(05-21-2019 08:51 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(05-21-2019 07:48 PM)eroc Wrote:  

Big body that can give us 10-15 minutes, a few fouls and some rebounds off the bench. Nothing exciting, but you take what you can get this late in the game.

Sorolla also scheduled to visit Nevada after UC:

Sam Iorio is another name to watch for UC per a Nevada article:

Quote:Nevada also has expressed interest in American University transfer Sam Iorio, a 6-6, 230-pound forward who averaged 14.1 points and 6.5 rebounds per game while hitting 124 threes at a 38.8 percent clip in two years at American. He would have to redshirt next season with two years of eligibility remaining. Other teams interested in Iorio include Cincinnati, Hawaii, Washington State and South Alabama.

Put up some numbers at least...