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RE: Greg Jones
ESPN, by the way, has rated the top transfers, both sit out and grad, and W&M is very well represented, as are former CAA players.
04-18-2019 10:45 AM
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(04-18-2019 10:21 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I think the composition of the team is fine. The game is played by guards more so than ever and as 97 says bigs at the mid major level take longer to develop if at all. Mid major basketball is all about player development, of course.

Here's what the team looks like today assuming Urbach and Jones leave with the class in parentheses (6 guards and 6 forwards):

1 - Parker (2), Harvey (1)
2 - Lewis (3), Richey (1), Pinkard (4)
3 - Banks (3), Christmas (1), Flowers (1)
4 - Jacobs (3), Wooden (1)
5 - Wilson (3), Fowler (1)

is xmas a 3? I guess he is a wing, but with his size, seems like he could play the 4.
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(04-18-2019 10:43 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Just a general question about the transfer portal, but is that only available to coaches/teams, or is it possible for fans to look and see who is in there? If not fans, can media members access the portal?

I believe the “official portal” is off limits to the general public like you said but some websites like 247 and Verbal Commits have a mock Transfer Portal which basically just tracks the announcements made about the players.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Basket...ferPortal/

http://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2019
04-18-2019 11:30 AM
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RE: Greg Jones
(04-18-2019 10:54 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:21 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I think the composition of the team is fine. The game is played by guards more so than ever and as 97 says bigs at the mid major level take longer to develop if at all. Mid major basketball is all about player development, of course.

Here's what the team looks like today assuming Urbach and Jones leave with the class in parentheses (6 guards and 6 forwards):

1 - Parker (2), Harvey (1)
2 - Lewis (3), Richey (1), Pinkard (4)
3 - Banks (3), Christmas (1), Flowers (1)
4 - Jacobs (3), Wooden (1)
5 - Wilson (3), Fowler (1)

is xmas a 3? I guess he is a wing, but with his size, seems like he could play the 4.

He's a swingman according to the DNR. I consider him to be a wing based on briefly watching him play. Can he play the 4? We'll see. I suspect a lot of those new guys are interchangeable parts.
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RE: Greg Jones
(04-18-2019 11:30 AM)Anders Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:43 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Just a general question about the transfer portal, but is that only available to coaches/teams, or is it possible for fans to look and see who is in there? If not fans, can media members access the portal?

I believe the “official portal” is off limits to the general public like you said but some websites like 247 and Verbal Commits have a mock Transfer Portal which basically just tracks the announcements made about the players.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Basket...ferPortal/

http://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2019

Nice find! 04-cheers

The only problem is now I'll be spending the rest of my work day looking at big men with immediate eligibility rather than what I'm paid for doing.
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(04-18-2019 01:56 PM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  The only problem is now I'll be spending the rest of my work day looking at big men with immediate eligibility rather than what I'm paid for doing.

just another day at the office!
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(04-18-2019 10:54 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:21 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I think the composition of the team is fine. The game is played by guards more so than ever and as 97 says bigs at the mid major level take longer to develop if at all. Mid major basketball is all about player development, of course.

Here's what the team looks like today assuming Urbach and Jones leave with the class in parentheses (6 guards and 6 forwards):

1 - Parker (2), Harvey (1)
2 - Lewis (3), Richey (1), Pinkard (4)
3 - Banks (3), Christmas (1), Flowers (1)
4 - Jacobs (3), Wooden (1)
5 - Wilson (3), Fowler (1)

is xmas a 3? I guess he is a wing, but with his size, seems like he could play the 4.

Flowers sure as hell ain't a 3.
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Too bad Pinkard couldn't have left the team instead of Jones and Urbach. Talk about a guy who is never going to see the court again. ....
04-18-2019 02:31 PM
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(04-18-2019 02:29 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:54 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:21 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I think the composition of the team is fine. The game is played by guards more so than ever and as 97 says bigs at the mid major level take longer to develop if at all. Mid major basketball is all about player development, of course.

Here's what the team looks like today assuming Urbach and Jones leave with the class in parentheses (6 guards and 6 forwards):

1 - Parker (2), Harvey (1)
2 - Lewis (3), Richey (1), Pinkard (4)
3 - Banks (3), Christmas (1), Flowers (1)
4 - Jacobs (3), Wooden (1)
5 - Wilson (3), Fowler (1)

is xmas a 3? I guess he is a wing, but with his size, seems like he could play the 4.

Flowers sure as hell ain't a 3.

Switch out Flowers and Wooden then. DNR listed Wooden as a SF today. I think JMU was weak at PF last year and you'd have to believe that one of those incoming forwards will compete for time at the 4 spot, in addition to the 3.
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(04-18-2019 01:47 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:54 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:21 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I think the composition of the team is fine. The game is played by guards more so than ever and as 97 says bigs at the mid major level take longer to develop if at all. Mid major basketball is all about player development, of course.

Here's what the team looks like today assuming Urbach and Jones leave with the class in parentheses (6 guards and 6 forwards):

1 - Parker (2), Harvey (1)
2 - Lewis (3), Richey (1), Pinkard (4)
3 - Banks (3), Christmas (1), Flowers (1)
4 - Jacobs (3), Wooden (1)
5 - Wilson (3), Fowler (1)

is xmas a 3? I guess he is a wing, but with his size, seems like he could play the 4.

He's a swingman according to the DNR. I consider him to be a wing based on briefly watching him play. Can he play the 4? We'll see. I suspect a lot of those new guys are interchangeable parts.

Christmas has gone from a swingman to a SF in today's DNR. When I say I watched him, it was on Youtube for all of a couple of minutes. Not a lot of video footage out there on the incoming players.
04-18-2019 03:15 PM
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(04-18-2019 03:15 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 01:47 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:54 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 10:21 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I think the composition of the team is fine. The game is played by guards more so than ever and as 97 says bigs at the mid major level take longer to develop if at all. Mid major basketball is all about player development, of course.

Here's what the team looks like today assuming Urbach and Jones leave with the class in parentheses (6 guards and 6 forwards):

1 - Parker (2), Harvey (1)
2 - Lewis (3), Richey (1), Pinkard (4)
3 - Banks (3), Christmas (1), Flowers (1)
4 - Jacobs (3), Wooden (1)
5 - Wilson (3), Fowler (1)

is xmas a 3? I guess he is a wing, but with his size, seems like he could play the 4.

He's a swingman according to the DNR. I consider him to be a wing based on briefly watching him play. Can he play the 4? We'll see. I suspect a lot of those new guys are interchangeable parts.

Christmas has gone from a swingman to a SF in today's DNR. When I say I watched him, it was on Youtube for all of a couple of minutes. Not a lot of video footage out there on the incoming players.

Like I said Rowe has been weak in recruiting big men. The guys he is hoping to have as back up to Wilson and presumably Jacobs are human stick figures.
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(04-18-2019 05:12 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  Like I said Rowe has been weak in recruiting big men. The guys he is hoping to have as back up to Wilson and presumably Jacobs are human stick figures.

Naaaaah, they have chosen to be and are now Dukes.
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(04-17-2019 12:08 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/...er/3505988

newbill's stupid post reminded me of this

Haha. That “video” is hilarious.
If you can’t laugh at yourself, your friends, and your family, who can you laugh at? Those are the best people to laugh at because they won’t get their feelings hurt.

Exhibit #999 why this board is great entertainment.
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This guy is still out there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw5iJFMzDfM

If you have issues with it just look up Oton Jankovic on youtube. He is generally listed as a 3 star, but some sites list him as a 2. In other words, exactly the level we should be going for.

I'm assuming the academics check out because both Stanford and Princeton gave him looks. There is some buzz about him going to a P5, but last I saw, Sienna was the only concrete offer he had.

I got a little bored one day and filtered out unsigned power forwards, but wasn't gong to mention anything while all 13 scholarships were being used.

Couldn't you imagine him in the high post while Wilson plays low?
04-20-2019 08:40 PM
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(04-20-2019 08:40 PM)purplesanman Wrote:  This guy is still out there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw5iJFMzDfM

If you have issues with it just look up Oton Jankovic on youtube. He is generally listed as a 3 star, but some sites list him as a 2. In other words, exactly the level we should be going for.

I'm assuming the academics check out because both Stanford and Princeton gave him looks. There is some buzz about him going to a P5, but last I saw, Sienna was the only concrete offer he had.

I got a little bored one day and filtered out unsigned power forwards, but wasn't gong to mention anything while all 13 scholarships were being used.

Couldn't you imagine him in the high post while Wilson plays low?

Unfortunately, Rowe only wants guards.
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Harder to find quality bigs at the mid major level. Fowler and Wooden are 6’9” and 6’8” recruits. Wilson is clearly a forward so is Jacobs. The same for Flowers. All were relatively highly recruited mid major players to Jmu. I think Lou Rowe wants forwards and centers they are just in shorter supply and take time to develop.
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I just saw where VMI's top scorer is transferring to Ga Tech. SoCon ROTY 2 seasons ago and scored 21 a game this past season for a team that went 11-21 on the season.

Say what you want about Lou Rowe, but in this age of increased transferring, I am pleased he has been able to keep the critical nucleus of guys from defecting to greener pastures and hope he can continue. I'm speaking mainly of Matt Lewis (and Banks, perhaps Wilson).

Of course, there's a lot to accomplish for Lewis in particular. This is essentially his team now from a player's perspective. He is on pace to score 2,000+ in his career if he continues to improve and stays healthy. If the program can be turned around in his last 2 seasons (big "if" I realize) with a conference title or two, his jersey could be hanging in the rafters of the shiny, new building one day in the future.

But, a lot of guys don't care about that kind of stuff these days which gets me back to Rowe being successful keeping these guys focused on our program, their future, and turning corners. Remains to be seen, but hopeful as always.

Side note, I just read where 172 early entry candidates from colleges have put their names into the NBA Draft. That's not counting an additional 58 international players. I realize many of them will take advantage of the rules, get feedback from NBA people, withdraw their names and continue their college careers. But, 172? WOW! And yes, I put my name in as well. I am still hoping an NBA team is looking for a slow ball hog in his mid 50's.

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Not sure where to put this, but it looks like Justin Pierce W&M graduate transfer is going to UNC. It will be interesting to see how many minutes he gets and if he can justify bailing on what was shaping up to be W&M’s best chance to win the CAA.
UNC also took a graduate transfer from Charleston Southern.
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Do we know where Greg is going?
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(05-03-2019 05:54 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Not sure where to put this, but it looks like Justin Pierce W&M graduate transfer is going to UNC. It will be interesting to see how many minutes he gets and if he can justify bailing on what was shaping up to be W&M’s best chance to win the CAA.
UNC also took a graduate transfer from Charleston Southern.

The NCAA needs to end this graduate transfer policy where kids can transfer and not sit out. All it does is penalize mid-majors, who worked with the P5 scraps, developed a player........only to let P5's come in and recruit an existing player and allow both the player and P5 to benefit immediately without having to sitout a year. Oh and the P5 gets the added benefit of only having to use the scholarship for one season and not have to decide if it is worth tying up a scholarship for 2 years, for 1 year of play.

And just so folks don't think I am picking on the college kids......coaches should be barred from taking a new job if they leave a school on probation/violations.
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