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RE: UVU hires Laker asst. Mark Madsen
(04-16-2019 05:44 PM)LopesUp Wrote: (04-16-2019 04:22 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote: LopesUp, I think Majerle has been a disappointment. First, as I said earlier, his teams play good defense and he has recruited well. He has done a heck of a job of scheduling non-conference opponents. To get a home-and-home with San Diego State is impressive. To get a home-and-home with Louisville is off the charts impressive.
The thing is, Majerle has a bunch of advantages coaching at GCU. The basketball budget of $5.3 million is much larger than any other WAC school. As a comparison, UVU had a basketball budget of $1.8 million. Could Majerle do what Pope did at UVU? I really doubt it.
The facilities and the fan support are outstanding for a mid-major. So how does GCU lose to Texas by 38? Or NMSU by 32? Over the past two seasons, there have been few quality wins outside of conference and zero wins over rival NMSU in six games. I thought GCU had the best roster going into the season. Then Frayer and Lever regressed.
I realize they are running pro sets, but they are running a lot of isolation off of that. Carlos Johnson took nine shots against NMSU in the WAC Championship and seven were three pointers. They kept him out of the paint. After scoring 35 against UVU and 31 against Seattle, the Aggies shut him down, held him to nine points and that was it. With no player or ball movement, they became a stagnant offense launching shots from the outside.
I liked Majerle as a player and I thought he did a good job the first four seasons as a head coach at GCU. The past two seasons I thought his team underperformed and considering the financial advantages that GCU has, it can't be seen as anything but disappointing.
By the way, I am not a new poster on the WAC Board. I would imagine that I have been here longer than you have. If you think my post is the worst you have ever seen on the WAC board, then that may be the must naïve post that I have seen posted here.
I don't know man. I have been posting here since we switched to this forum. I had been posting since we were in whatever that other forum was since 2014. I'm pretty sure I was the first GCU poster here. I was giving the board updates on GCU playing Pacific in GCU's first season as a D1 when they played in the CIT. Back when Dancing still liked us ha ha.
Anyway, I suppose we disagree on verbiage. I guess you can say he has under performed? I just don't think any coach who has a team in D1 for only 6 years, who wins the majority of his games and beats everyone in the WAC except NMSU and has made it to two WAC Finals (though they have been destroyed) is a disappointment.
I will never see how the fan support has anything to do with Wins and Losses. It's a great story for the media, but I think real sports fans realize it's cool and all, but does not mean a damn thing.
As far as budget goes, I don't really know what that buys you? Facilities? Pay your coaches more? Does that even matter? All coaches have to follow the sames rules as far as contact with players in recruiting and practicing, so money can't buy you that. I'm sure money helps, but I am not one for blanket statements saying, well you have more money, so you should always win and if you don't you suck.
NMSU has a lower budget then their in-state rival and look how they have whooped UNM's ass for years and GCU's for that matter. I think they will tell you that budget don't mean a thing.
So you can't have it both ways.
I never said your post was the worst... go back and take a look friend.
Also, you stated that this team was his "supposed" to be his best team. No GCU fan I know believed that. We all thought GCU would finish 4th. We got a glimmer of hope when Los was approved to play this season and thought maybe they cold make a run. We all thought the 19/20 team would be better with Los (who was able to play earlier) JJ Rhymes, Isaih Brown, Mikey Dixon, and Freshmen Jovan Blacksher.
Neither of these teams have been Majerle's best team. His best team was the 15/16 season. 27-7 (11-3) in WAC Play. Won the Global Sports Classic in Vegas beating Houston and Marshall. Beat SDSU and Central Michigan. Went to the third round of the CIT. That was GCU's best team to date.
Here are the 2017-2018 basketball revenue numbers provided to the Department of Education:
Grand Canyon - $5,337,280
Seattle - $2,993,341
NMSU - $2,485,019
CSUB - $2,172,991
UVU - $1,861,238
UMKC - $1,859,426
CBU - $1,768,970
UTRGV - $1,589,120
Chicago State - $1,192,542
Money is everything. It determines what kind of head coach you can hire. It has a big impact on recruiting. It helps with the cost of attendance, travel, accommodations, nutrition. The quality of your assistant coaches and training staff. It is hard to keep a good head coach at a mid-major school because of the money schools with bigger budgets can offer. If you think NMSU is tough to beat right now, give them another $3 million in basketball to spend and find out how tough they can really be.
The facilities have enhanced recruiting at GCU. GCU has a five-star practice facility that features three courts, offices for men's and women's basketball, a lounge for each team and a film room. Majerle can watch practice from the second-floor balcony outside his office. Very impressive. From Dan Majerle, "Our ultimate goal is to be a top-25 team, to be the next Gonzaga or a Butler. And we have all the tools to do that."
You may think your team was no better than 4th place, but the media and coaches in the WAC would disagree:
https://www.wacsports.com/sports/mbkb/20...1009lu3j57
Grand Canyon was picked for 2nd in the WAC and got two first place votes from WAC coaches. Frayer and Lever were selected first team All-WAC. Lever was selected preseason WAC POY. So what happened?
You guys had a good 2015-2016 season. I was thinking that in two years you guys are going to give opponents a lot of headaches. As Majerle said, "We have all the tools." A new arena packed with enthusiastic fans. As Rick Pitino said after the game at GCU, "Whether we go to Duke, Kentucky... nothing was as tough as that environment tonight. They orchestrated on a timeout with music and the band so you can't hear one word in the timeout. They have more students that come to one of our games. So I'm extremely grateful we won. And I'm really impressed with what you have here." He added, "This in college basketball in my 40-plus years was the toughest crowd I ever faced."
So everything is set-up to win, to be the next Gonzaga. Weak excuses like "We all thought GCU would finish 4th" should not be acceptable. You guys are recruiting three and four star players. You are competing with Pac-12 schools.
In 2016-2017, GCU beats San Diego State at home. Nice win. But they also have losses that season to a 6-24 SIU-Edwardsville team (76-64) and a 20 point road loss at UCR, a team that went 8-21. How do you lose those games? You have to win those games to reach the goal of being a top mid-major. GCU set the goal as being the next Gonzaga, the next Butler. So when does Majerle take the team to the next level?
(This post was last modified: 04-18-2019 01:13 AM by SoCalBobcat78.)
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