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The Nevada Wolfpack basketball team will have ZERO returning players going forward.

1) Nevada was Senior-heavy, losing 7 scholarship guys to graduation.
2) Eric Musselman took the Arkansas job, and the remaining 6 guys announced their intention to transfer.
3) They only currently have one commit, a transfer from Pittsburgh (Shamiel Stevenson) who may or may not stay.
4) They do not have any other commits.

So, they go from a Top-25 team having one of the best seasons in program history to this. Very tough deal. Steve Alford has his work cut out.

Buffalo is probably similar, although I haven't researched them yet.
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Nope, Buffalo isn’t similar at all. They lose 7 Seniors, but the other 6 scholarship players are all returning...so far. I imagine the internal coaching hire helped persuade them.
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Ask Steve he is the self appointed shrink.
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Crazy is thinking Murphy is on the same level as Izzo
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LOLZ
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(04-12-2019 04:50 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Nope, Buffalo isn’t similar at all. They lose 7 Seniors, but the other 6 scholarship players are all returning...so far. I imagine the internal coaching hire helped persuade them.

I looked at Buffalo's roster early this season and I knew that Nate Oats was long gone. The six who are returning are not very good, you probably would not trade them for the four we have. Of course, unlike EMU those six might improve year over year.
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(04-12-2019 05:31 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Crazy is thinking Murphy is on the same level as Izzo
He can never fully recover after comparing Murphy to Izzo. How do you live that down? Honorable mention: Superfan saying that EMU should cancel the upcoming season BUT retain the coach. 03-lmfao
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(04-12-2019 05:31 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Crazy is thinking Murphy is on the same level as Izzo

Disingenuous (or crazy) is mis-representing what someone said. You are not alone on this topic.

The question or topic was Murphy's behavior on the court (bench coaching) which some found objectionable.

I commented that Izzo has a bad reputation in that regard but no one seems to care (because he wins big).

And then posters here says I was equated Murphy and Izzo. While all I was trying to say is that Izzo is worse when it comes to such behavior.

Then in the NCAAs Izzo's reputation for objectionable behavior when upset got to be a national story. Plenty of stories.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827...-in-huddle
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(04-12-2019 09:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 05:31 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Crazy is thinking Murphy is on the same level as Izzo

Disingenuous (or crazy) is mis-representing what someone said. You are not alone on this topic.

The question or topic was Murphy's behavior on the court (bench coaching) which some found objectionable.

I commented that Izzo has a bad reputation in that regard but no one seems to care (because he wins big).

And then posters here says I was equated Murphy and Izzo. While all I was trying to say is that Izzo is worse when it comes to such behavior.

Then in the NCAAs Izzo's reputation for objectionable behavior when upset got to be a national story. Plenty of stories.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827...-in-huddle

Let's be honest about one thing here. Murphy and Izzo coach in two different worlds. He did drop some audible F Bombs in ONE game this year but that verbal outburst, while offending some EMU fans, probably would not have been audible in the much louder Breslin Center. Different circumstances for sure.

I, for one, have no problem with Izzo getting in Aaron Henry's face, especially when he is addressing a lack of effort. In fact I don't think Rob does that enough. I see Ty Groce take a questionable shot or turns over the ball and immediately I see another player heading for the scorer's table. Ty then heads for the bench where he is ignored by Murphy. Personally I would rather see Murphy get all over him at the next break yet leave him in the game to atone for his transgressions.

I think Groce, Ellison, Parris, Silver and to a certain degree McAdoo played more so not to make a mistake than they were to make a positive play. For example why risk a charging call attacking the basket when you can simply dump a pass to a teammate 30 feet from the rim? These guys in essence have been playing not to lose rather than to win.
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(04-13-2019 06:17 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 09:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 05:31 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Crazy is thinking Murphy is on the same level as Izzo

Disingenuous (or crazy) is mis-representing what someone said. You are not alone on this topic.

The question or topic was Murphy's behavior on the court (bench coaching) which some found objectionable.

I commented that Izzo has a bad reputation in that regard but no one seems to care (because he wins big).

And then posters here says I was equated Murphy and Izzo. While all I was trying to say is that Izzo is worse when it comes to such behavior.

Then in the NCAAs Izzo's reputation for objectionable behavior when upset got to be a national story. Plenty of stories.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827...-in-huddle

Let's be honest about one thing here. Murphy and Izzo coach in two different worlds. He did drop some audible F Bombs in ONE game this year but that verbal outburst, while offending some EMU fans, probably would not have been audible in the much louder Breslin Center. Different circumstances for sure.

I, for one, have no problem with Izzo getting in Aaron Henry's face, especially when he is addressing a lack of effort. In fact I don't think Rob does that enough. I see Ty Groce take a questionable shot or turns over the ball and immediately I see another player heading for the scorer's table. Ty then heads for the bench where he is ignored by Murphy. Personally I would rather see Murphy get all over him at the next break yet leave him in the game to atone for his transgressions.

I think Groce, Ellison, Parris, Silver and to a certain degree McAdoo played more so not to make a mistake than they were to make a positive play. For example why risk a charging call attacking the basket when you can simply dump a pass to a teammate 30 feet from the rim? These guys in essence have been playing not to lose rather than to win.

One addendum to my comment about Izzo.

My comment about Izzo was before his NCAA tourney outburst. (the conversation we are having had to do with an EMU conference home game when Murphy apparently dropped the f bomb).

My point about Izzo is that he is a very intense coach who is very hard on his players. He gets results but he is not a low keyed coach.

As the Freep writer indicates, Izzo's style isn't for everyone or for every player.
The writer indicates Izzo has been Izzo for a very long time.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/colum...241204002/
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(04-12-2019 09:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 05:31 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Crazy is thinking Murphy is on the same level as Izzo

Disingenuous (or crazy) is mis-representing what someone said. You are not alone on this topic.

The question or topic was Murphy's behavior on the court (bench coaching) which some found objectionable.

I commented that Izzo has a bad reputation in that regard but no one seems to care (because he wins big).

And then posters here says I was equated Murphy and Izzo. While all I was trying to say is that Izzo is worse when it comes to such behavior.

Then in the NCAAs Izzo's reputation for objectionable behavior when upset got to be a national story. Plenty of stories.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827...-in-huddle
The national story of Izzo in the NCAA tournament was that he took one of his least talented teams to the final four. I could not believe how that team improved throughout the year. It was an absolute pleasure watching a coach get every ounce of talent out of his team. This was Izzo's best coaching job in his storied career and that was the national story.
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(04-13-2019 09:25 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 09:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 05:31 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Crazy is thinking Murphy is on the same level as Izzo

Disingenuous (or crazy) is mis-representing what someone said. You are not alone on this topic.

The question or topic was Murphy's behavior on the court (bench coaching) which some found objectionable.

I commented that Izzo has a bad reputation in that regard but no one seems to care (because he wins big).

And then posters here says I was equated Murphy and Izzo. While all I was trying to say is that Izzo is worse when it comes to such behavior.

Then in the NCAAs Izzo's reputation for objectionable behavior when upset got to be a national story. Plenty of stories.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827...-in-huddle
The national story of Izzo in the NCAA tournament was that he took one of his least talented teams to the final four. I could not believe how that team improved throughout the year. It was an absolute pleasure watching a coach get every ounce of talent out of his team. This was Izzo's best coaching job in his storied career and that was the national story.

I agree with you. Players like Goins were not even on the B1G recruiting radar. This roster certainly was not like Duke's.
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That is a story you won't hear from the Coach K loving media. Duke had a ton of talent and were a better team when EMU played them early in the year than they were at tournament time. Not a good year at all.
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(04-14-2019 03:02 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  That is a story you won't hear from the Coach K loving media. Duke had a ton of talent and were a better team when EMU played them early in the year than they were at tournament time. Not a good year at all.

Not meant as a 'betting tip', but the new mantra is that the teams full of 'one and dones' don't do as well as the senior-laden teams in the NCAA tourney.

One could argue that the Duke team was hardly a team. Mostly a collection of stars tossed together on a roster for 30+ games.
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