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Alberta poised for UCP landslide, Independence Party gains
Quote:More people have voted in the first two days of Alberta election advance polls this week, than during the entire time they were open during the 2015 provincial election.

The 2015 vote saw about 235,000 Albertans take advantage of advance polls, setting a record for the number of advance votes in provincial history at the time.

That record has now been broken. In the first two days of this election’s advance polls, 276,000 people have cast a ballot: 140,000 on Tuesday, and 136,000 on Wednesday. For context, on the first day of advance polling in 2015, about 58,000 Albertans voted.

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Quote:Canada pushed Alberta out: Independence Party leader says secession is province's only viable option

Alberta Independence Party Leader Dave Bjorkman believes his party is the “true centre” of Alberta politics.

The notion of left and right?

“That’s all hooey,” Bjorkman told Postmedia Tuesday.

As far as he’s concerned, Alberta’s financial woes can only be fixed through separation.

“If there was another way, I would do it. I didn’t come up with this to be some radical — it’s because Canada pushed us out. The system’s broken,” he said.

Secession from Canada tends towards a fringe political belief in Alberta, but rears its head every few decades or so.

A February poll by the Angus Reid Institute found that 50 per cent of Albertans would support secession from Canada, and Bjorkman is banking on that growing sentiment when voters head to the polls April 16.

‘THEY’RE GETTING US WRONG’
The Alberta Independence Party has enjoyed something of a meteoric rise.

A year ago, it was a jumbled group with assorted ideas. Now it has 63 candidates — 12 more than the Alberta Liberals — and official party status.

https://calgarysun.com/news/politics/pol...a09657ae0b
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And then, when Alberta secedes from Canada, we will ask them to join us as the 51st state, making us the Oil Barons of the entire world.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(lol Sorry. Got carried away there.)

But seriously, good for them. If they feel they need to get away from something they feel is detrimental to their future, they should go for it.
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This will be very interesting to follow. First of many dominoes?
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Polling Data (for whatever its worth)

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Source: https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/election...r/alberta/
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(04-12-2019 08:31 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  This will be very interesting to follow. First of many dominoes?

If they go I suspect Quebec will follow suit. I dont know enough about Canadian politics to know how the other provinces would proceed.
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We should just invite all of Canada to join America.
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(04-12-2019 02:09 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  We should just invite all of Canada to join America.

No, no, no, Too much stupid up there.
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(04-12-2019 02:21 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 02:09 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  We should just invite all of Canada to join America.

No, no, no, Too much stupid up there.

Canada is just like the US in many regards. The stupid is mostly in BC and Ontario. The rest of the Nation is mostly conservative. Just like how the US is mostly conservative except for several major metro areas.

In Canada you can see what happens when the Metro/Urban Leftists ignore what everyone wants and just pushes their own agendas. This is the exact reason whats happening in Alberta is happening.
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(04-12-2019 02:05 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 08:31 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  This will be very interesting to follow. First of many dominoes?

If they go I suspect Quebec will follow suit. I dont know enough about Canadian politics to know how the other provinces would proceed.

To quote myself from this thread: https://csnbbs.com/thread-873540.html

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(03-25-2019 03:32 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  https://www.alberta51.com

Now we just need
https://www.saskatchewan52.com
and
https://www.manitoba53.com

If Alberta leaves the whole Canadian structure crumbles. The bill for Ontario and Quebec would fall to Saskatchewan, which isn't as profitable as Alberta, so they'd run for cover. Which leaves Manitoba holding the bag which they cant do either.
Then it falls to BC.

Dominos... Alberta is the keystone holding the system together. It isn't crazy to think that if Alberta leaves... A huge chunk of Canada goes their own way.

I think what would probably happen is a coalition between, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, North West Territories, and Yukon. I'm going to call that the 'Central Canadian States'.

I think Ontario would probably try to bribe Nunavut to stay, due to natural resources that are yet to be tapped as a last resort to save whats left.

I dont know what BC would do, but due to population, the CCS would be better served if they didn't absorb BC due to their far left tendencies. The last thing they'd want to do is hand themselves over to another Lib stronghold.

What happens on the east... idk. New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador are big unknown for me. I dont know enough about their politics to say whats what.

If Quebec stops getting its check written to it by Ontario tapping Alberta's wallet... they'll probably leave like they've wanted to before. They're only staying for the money.

Ontario can't survive on its own. Even if it keeps Nunavut and all the Eastern Provinces, without Quebec and those in my imaginary CCS... they can't last.

Would the CCS join the US? Idk, I'd love them to. But I have a feeling they'd try to go it alone and make their own destiny, with the understanding that they are dependent on the US. The last thing the US would want is Ontario joining and becoming the next California we have to deal with.

However, if the libs loose the next election... i dont think it'll happen. These provinces will stay in and hope things get better. The Libs need to win again and go even further to the left to wake up these provinces and have them vote to leave.
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(04-12-2019 02:21 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 02:09 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  We should just invite all of Canada to join America.

No, no, no, Too much stupid up there.

....and that's not the worst part, they elect them to office. No thanks, let them be an independent country first and see where their brains are. Maybe later, we sure as heck don't need another West Coast state with the same mindset.
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(04-12-2019 04:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 02:21 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 02:09 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  We should just invite all of Canada to join America.

No, no, no, Too much stupid up there.

....and that's not the worst part, they elect them to office. No thanks, let them be an independent country first and see where their brains are. Maybe later, we sure as heck don't need another West Coast state with the same mindset.

Again, dont judge a whole country of citizens by who wins. By your logic... you're the reason Obama got elected, and you supported all his policies.
You're logic would suggest that Canada's should think that Texas and South Carolina were dumb enough to vote Obama into office.

Alberta and Sask are like the Midwest of the US, they are conservative. They arent the liberal wackaloons you find in the major cities.
Don't think that Albertans are the reason Trudeau got elected. He wasnt.
Manitoba is split evenly, it sways back and forth on the issues. Kinda like how Ohio and PA have in the past here.

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Really q? Did Texas vote for people like Waters, Pelosi, their governor, etc. I'm talking about the people that elect idiots like those I mentioned and come to Congress with the sole purpose of ruining the country. There's only one president but a shiate load of congress people from Liberal states and we have enough and don't want any more. We're above water as it is but if you say that Alberta is conservative I'll take your word for it but I've read some other posts that state the opposite so who's right?
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(04-12-2019 07:11 PM)q5sys Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 04:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 02:21 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(04-12-2019 02:09 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  We should just invite all of Canada to join America.
No, no, no, Too much stupid up there.
....and that's not the worst part, they elect them to office. No thanks, let them be an independent country first and see where their brains are. Maybe later, we sure as heck don't need another West Coast state with the same mindset.
Again, dont judge a whole country of citizens by who wins. By your logic... you're the reason Obama got elected, and you supported all his policies.
You're logic would suggest that Canada's should think that Texas and South Carolina were dumb enough to vote Obama into office.
Alberta and Sask are like the Midwest of the US, they are conservative. They arent the liberal wackaloons you find in the major cities.
Don't think that Albertans are the reason Trudeau got elected. He wasnt.
Manitoba is split evenly, it sways back and forth on the issues. Kinda like how Ohio and PA have in the past here.
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If Alberta goes, then the pressure will be on Saskatchewan to go next. If Alberta and Saskatchewan go, the pressure will be on Manitoba. The Prairie Provinces have been sending money east to keep Quebec happy for years. If that money dries up, it will just increase the pressure on whoever is left. And Alberta would be the biggest hunk of that money.
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(04-12-2019 08:09 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Really q? Did Texas vote for people like Waters, Pelosi, their governor, etc. I'm talking about the people that elect idiots like those I mentioned and come to Congress with the sole purpose of ruining the country.
(04-12-2019 08:09 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  There's only one president but a shiate load of congress people from Liberal states and we have enough and don't want any more.
We're above water as it is but if you say that Alberta is conservative I'll take your word for it but I've read some other posts that state the opposite so who's right?

And thats what Ontario and Quebec are doing in Canada. They're skewing the vote so far left that the conservative wishes get ignored.
That's not the fault of the people of Texas, or South Carolina. Texas did not vote Pelosi to office. They didnt vote Obama to office. The same goes for Alberta, saying 'they elect them to office' is not true, when speaking about Alberta. It may be true speaking about Canada as a whole. but we're not talking about Canada as a whole leaving... we're talking about Alberta leaving. The people of Alberta have voted largely for Conservatives. I've given you the polling data from the current election in Alberta as well as the National results from a past election.

Im not asking you to trust me. I'm asking you to trust history and historical fact of how Albertans have voted.
In the last major election, Alberta voted 12 times the Conservative Reps than Liberal Reps.
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