(04-08-2019 09:14 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  If Barnes was a 35-year old up and coming coach, I'd expect him to take the UCLA job.
But, he's a 65+ year old coach. I'd be very surprised if he'd want the pressure that comes with coaching UCLA.

Don't compare him to Calipari. In hindsight, Cal's flirtations with other programs while he was at Memphis indicated that he was always looking for a "bigger-better deal". I haven't heard those same rumors coming out of Knoxville about Barnes.

Barnes can retire at UT. As long as the football team isn't terrible, all Barnes has to do is keep the Vols in the top half of the SEC, and beat Kentucky every now and then.

He'd probably last 2 years at UCLA before they ran him off.

Both UCLA and UT will be rebuilds... so it’s just a matter of where he believes he can get it done quicker. UCLA is the best job in the PAC 12 while UT is nowhere near the top job in the SEC. I think a coach with any ambition takes the UCLA job over UT. Barnes might have another 5-7 years in him, so why not spend them at a school with legitimate annual national title resources. LA and So Cal are loaded with high school basketball talent; Knoxville and East Tennessee, not so much.

SEC is damn tough now ... PAC12 is soft. UT in basketball thin Knoxville, UCLA in basketball thick LA. Football school vs basketball school. Fulmer (Fat Phil) better pony up BIG or he's gone !!

I don't see Barnes replicating what he's done over the past two years going forward at UT. He has some decent commitments for 2019 and 2020, but he really struck gold with his 2018 and 2019 teams.

I think I'd almost prefer to have Barnes at Tennessee. Penny's built a nice rivalry with Barnes, and I see Memphis getting the upper-hand in the rivalry over the next few years.

Would anyone really care if Commie-fornia fell off into the Pacific? I’d take the mountains of east TN and the nice friendly people there over anything or anyone California could ever offer.

(04-08-2019 09:59 AM)ksigtigerdood Wrote:  I don't see Barnes replicating what he's done over the past two years going forward at UT. He has some decent commitments for 2019 and 2020, but he really struck gold with his 2018 and 2019 teams.

I think I'd almost prefer to have Barnes at Tennessee. Penny's built a nice rivalry with Barnes, and I see Memphis getting the upper-hand in the rivalry over the next few years.

I’m the exact opposite. I hope he leaves and I hope they return to not caring about basketball and sucking. I don’t want to help them be successful at all. Screw them.

(04-08-2019 10:01 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Would anyone really care if Commie-fornia fell off into the Pacific? I’d take the mountains of east TN and the nice friendly people there over anything or anyone California could ever offer.

Friendly like him:

(04-07-2019 10:34 PM)passat25 Wrote:  Just like Calipari to Kensucky, the big schools coming and taking Barnes to UCLA.

(04-08-2019 12:16 AM)Dak10 Wrote:  UCLA should offer Chris Beard 10 mil a year and be done with it.

(04-08-2019 09:14 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  If Barnes was a 35-year old up and coming coach, I'd expect him to take the UCLA job.
But, he's a 65+ year old coach. I'd be very surprised if he'd want the pressure that comes with coaching UCLA.

Don't compare him to Calipari. In hindsight, Cal's flirtations with other programs while he was at Memphis indicated that he was always looking for a "bigger-better deal". I haven't heard those same rumors coming out of Knoxville about Barnes.

Barnes can retire at UT. As long as the football team isn't terrible, all Barnes has to do is keep the Vols in the top half of the SEC, and beat Kentucky every now and then.

He'd probably last 2 years at UCLA before they ran him off.

(04-08-2019 09:19 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 09:14 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  If Barnes was a 35-year old up and coming coach, I'd expect him to take the UCLA job.
But, he's a 65+ year old coach. I'd be very surprised if he'd want the pressure that comes with coaching UCLA.

Don't compare him to Calipari. In hindsight, Cal's flirtations with other programs while he was at Memphis indicated that he was always looking for a "bigger-better deal". I haven't heard those same rumors coming out of Knoxville about Barnes.

Barnes can retire at UT. As long as the football team isn't terrible, all Barnes has to do is keep the Vols in the top half of the SEC, and beat Kentucky every now and then.

He'd probably last 2 years at UCLA before they ran him off.

A lot of coaches would be cool with that depending on the pay day. If UCLA pays the money that UT will not then he goes. Or he could be pulling a Cal to get UT to show him the money or even his assistants, because UT has it.

(04-08-2019 09:46 AM)steves Wrote:  SEC is damn tough now ... PAC12 is soft. UT in basketball thin Knoxville, UCLA in basketball thick LA. Football school vs basketball school. Fulmer (Fat Phil) better pony up BIG or he's gone !!

All gr8 points...Ricks stock is sky high rn, So is Pearls fwiw! Rick had UTAY @ number 1 for a good stretch this year and Pearl should be coaching tonite...Seeing the money grab attempt by X is influential as well as intriguing to both... an interesting game of chess being played rn.... I'm curious to see how Pearl gets involved, as he has the value of "the gueen" right now...having gr8 position, let's see if he issues a "mate"

#PEARL2UCLAY

(04-08-2019 10:02 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 09:59 AM)ksigtigerdood Wrote:  I don't see Barnes replicating what he's done over the past two years going forward at UT. He has some decent commitments for 2019 and 2020, but he really struck gold with his 2018 and 2019 teams.

I think I'd almost prefer to have Barnes at Tennessee. Penny's built a nice rivalry with Barnes, and I see Memphis getting the upper-hand in the rivalry over the next few years.

I’m the exact opposite. I hope he leaves and I hope they return to not caring about basketball and sucking. I don’t want to help them be successful at all. Screw them.

The UT job could be attractive to coaching candidates. They have their fanbase really engaged right now and have some strong commitments in place for 2019 and 2020. The right coach could take that and run with it. I just don't see Barnes maintaining a top-10 program (I could be wrong), and I don't see him winning any recruiting battles against Penny in the state. I'd prefer they throw a bunch of money at Barnes and have him coast into retirement.

(04-08-2019 08:19 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 08:12 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 07:17 AM)Dylan Wrote:  

(04-07-2019 10:31 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  Who the hell would want to move to a sh!thole like Los Angeles, CA?

That place is losing people right and left. Don't forget about the sky high cost of living, sky high taxes, and the fact you can't move on the I interstate. Whatever increase in pay he gets will be eaten up in taxes and high cost of living. Home of the crips and bloods, Mexican drug traffickers, and homeless crapping in the streets. Did I mention wildfires?

Anyplace in Tennessee is better.

Wow. You’ve never been there have you?

Beat me to the punch Dylan.

The WORST day in Southern California is much better than the BEST day in Knoxville. Period.

I like both. Given the choice I would probably not choose LA though to live. Knoxville is okay except for all the orange and the missing teeth.

(04-08-2019 07:17 AM)Dylan Wrote:  

(04-07-2019 10:31 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  Who the hell would want to move to a sh!thole like Los Angeles, CA?

That place is losing people right and left. Don't forget about the sky high cost of living, sky high taxes, and the fact you can't move on the I interstate. Whatever increase in pay he gets will be eaten up in taxes and high cost of living. Home of the crips and bloods, Mexican drug traffickers, and homeless crapping in the streets. Did I mention wildfires?

Anyplace in Tennessee is better.

Wow. You’ve never been there have you?

No, of course not! I just make up stuff and post it. You've got to be kidding me.

If Barnes does go to UCLA and UT hires Forbes, who's Keef gonna root for December 19th?

(04-08-2019 07:17 AM)Dylan Wrote:  

(04-07-2019 10:31 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  Who the hell would want to move to a sh!thole like Los Angeles, CA?

That place is losing people right and left. Don't forget about the sky high cost of living, sky high taxes, and the fact you can't move on the I interstate. Whatever increase in pay he gets will be eaten up in taxes and high cost of living. Home of the crips and bloods, Mexican drug traffickers, and homeless crapping in the streets. Did I mention wildfires?

Anyplace in Tennessee is better.

Wow. You’ve never been there have you?

I lived in Sacramento and had to visit LA where I had business. What he said is too good for LA. It’s a vipers pit for sure.

(04-08-2019 10:04 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 10:01 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Would anyone really care if Commie-fornia fell off into the Pacific? I’d take the mountains of east TN and the nice friendly people there over anything or anyone California could ever offer.

Friendly like him:

Now that’s just not fair and besides that picture is really the new piggy coach over in Fayetteville

of course, I forgot how much politics shapes some peoples views on everything.

(04-08-2019 10:15 AM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 07:17 AM)Dylan Wrote:  

(04-07-2019 10:31 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  Who the hell would want to move to a sh!thole like Los Angeles, CA?

That place is losing people right and left. Don't forget about the sky high cost of living, sky high taxes, and the fact you can't move on the I interstate. Whatever increase in pay he gets will be eaten up in taxes and high cost of living. Home of the crips and bloods, Mexican drug traffickers, and homeless crapping in the streets. Did I mention wildfires?

Anyplace in Tennessee is better.

Wow. You’ve never been there have you?

I lived in Sacramento and had to visit LA where I had business. What he said is too good for LA. It’s a vipers pit for sure.

They just way over-regulate things there. My brother lives in Manhattan Beach. You can only smoke if (a.) you are in a moving car. If the car is not moving you can't smoke (b.) in your residence as long as it isn't a multi-unit one © in designated hotel rooms. Smoking outside is prohibited. I don't smoke but it seems a little extreme to me.

(04-08-2019 10:01 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Would anyone really care if Commie-fornia fell off into the Pacific? I’d take the mountains of east TN and the nice friendly people there over anything or anyone California could ever offer.

LOL. This is hilarious.

Amazing how after word leaks that UCLA offered Cal 6 years and $48 million, all of the sudden experienced coaches like Barnes are interested in a job that has been open since late December.

UCLA is still a good job. Alford went 31-5 just two seasons ago. Went to three sweet 16s in his 5 full seasons. SoCal loaded with top prospects. Howland went to 3 Final Fours before Alford, to the NCAAs 7 out of 10 years. Steve Lavin 5 sweet 16s in 7 seasons prior to Howland. Before that, Jim Harrick to the NCAAs all 8 of his seasons, won the title in '95. Hard to lose at UCLA.

(04-07-2019 07:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-07-2019 07:10 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-07-2019 07:02 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

Does he want the pressure...

He is a god in Knoxville right now.

he's 64...if he doesn't like it just collect the paycheck and retire in a couple years. He has nothing to lose and his stock will never be higher than right now IMHO.

And now we see why you are such a die-hard Tubby lover.

(04-08-2019 10:26 AM)Dylan Wrote:  of course, I forgot how much politics shapes some peoples views on everything.

Agreed...

Such a sad state for some who don't realize they are being led around like sheep.

(04-08-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Amazing how after word leaks that UCLA offered Cal 6 years and $48 million, all of the sudden experienced coaches like Barnes are interested in a job that has been open since late December.

UCLA is still a good job. Alford went 31-5 just two seasons ago. Went to three sweet 16s in his 5 full seasons. SoCal loaded with top prospects. Howland went to 3 Final Fours before Alford, to the NCAAs 7 out of 10 years. Steve Lavin 5 sweet 16s in 7 seasons prior to Howland. Before that, Jim Harrick to the NCAAs all 8 of his seasons, won the title in '95. Hard to lose at UCLA.

Lots of local talent, beautful campus that’s 2 miles from the beach, and obviously the history that goes with the program. Anyone can complain about LA all they want but no 18yr freshman would rather be in lexington Kentucky or Lawrence Kansas than LA if given a choice

UCLA should be better than it is. The administration just has no idea how to run a basketball program anymore and the program is fading into irrelevancy especially locally