(04-04-2019 12:15 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 10:58 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 10:16 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I like(d) watching Stapleton, good player. whatever happens, happens.

Football win and loss centered only, JMU has so many advantages at the fcs level it does not matter if Paris Black or Riley Stapleton or anybody else is or is not on the sideline.

"Oh no, we lost to Colgate again because XYZ was suspended" is weak as a self proclaimed "fcs power."

Screw Colgate. Football win and loss centered only, it matters vs WVU, running the table in the CAA, getting a top 2 seed, qtrs/semis/Frisco (including vs NDSU) if you lose probably your #1 offensive weapon...

WVU should kill us under any circumstances, WVU recruits a player at a different level or two and WVU has more of them. The only reason JMU plays WVU is to pick up a $600K check, ask Bourne.

JMU should run the CAA table every year and get a top playoff seed every year and win or give away the NC every year because JMU outspends and out built every team at the fcs level multiple times over. Coach Cig has said as much.

JMU should have been NDSU consistent years ago. I know that CAA programs offer scholarships and pay coaches but losing to CAA football programs is not ok (ask Coach Cig) unless we tear down BFS and play at HHS, drop CoA, reduce the coaching salaries by multiples and replace our 12 uniforms combos for one that gets replaced every five years...and start playing in from of 800 people half of which are family and personal friends.

It's a ***** to live up to but JMU can't offer a valid reason for losing at the fcs level, other the number of scholarships, JMU is not as fcs program playing an fcs schedule.

Agreed, one d-lineman and one receiver should not make or break this team. Other FCS teams, this most likely has a huge impact. But with Dean, brown and three tight ends plus an emphasis on the running game I'm sure the offense will be fine

I dont agree with WVU should kill us tho. I think its going to be more like last years NCST game where we are in it the whole time. Our defense will be better and their qb, either the OU transfer or Grier's backup, wont be as good as Finley was

if he is dismissed, and there is ample reason for doing so, how might this impact his brother's interest in playing for the team?

(04-04-2019 12:34 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  if he is dismissed, and there is ample reason for doing so, how might this impact his brother's interest in playing for the team?

Beat me to it...


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(04-04-2019 12:43 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 12:34 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  if he is dismissed, and there is ample reason for doing so, how might this impact his brother's interest in playing for the team?

Beat me to it...


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Definitely a tough, unknowable situation given how close the family is with the Cignettis already.

Personally, I don't think there is enough here to fully kick him off the team, however it wouldn't shock me if that's the outcome given CC won't want to look weak with his first major disciplinary action.

(04-04-2019 12:45 PM)JMUPride Wrote:  Personally, I don't think there is enough here to fully kick him off the team, however it wouldn't shock me if that's the outcome given CC won't want to look weak with his first major disciplinary action.

CC kicked Kweshon (sp?) Moore off the team back in January, so I would not be surprised with any level of punishment.

1) We definitely don't have all the facts, but even with what's been reported...not looking good for Riley
2) Doing this to anyone is wrong and dumb. Doing it when you know the girl is the niece of the DA?! Seriously, Riley?!
3) Yes, anyone with a scholarship should be held to a higher standard. Go back and look at the thread after the Norfolk St game and see how many people referenced him being a representative of the university. And that was just about a kid being cocky. Anyone wearing a JMU uniform is representing JMU. If they're getting a scholarship FROM the university and are on an online roster, they're more-or-less an employee of the university.
4) CC knows Riley extremely well. He probably has known about this for awhile now and I trust him to handle this appropriately

(04-04-2019 12:15 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 10:58 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 10:16 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I like(d) watching Stapleton, good player. whatever happens, happens.

Football win and loss centered only, JMU has so many advantages at the fcs level it does not matter if Paris Black or Riley Stapleton or anybody else is or is not on the sideline.

"Oh no, we lost to Colgate again because XYZ was suspended" is weak as a self proclaimed "fcs power."

Screw Colgate. Football win and loss centered only, it matters vs WVU, running the table in the CAA, getting a top 2 seed, qtrs/semis/Frisco (including vs NDSU) if you lose probably your #1 offensive weapon...

WVU should kill us under any circumstances, WVU recruits a player at a different level or two and WVU has more of them. The only reason JMU plays WVU is to pick up a $600K check, ask Bourne.

JMU should run the CAA table every year and get a top playoff seed every year and win or give away the NC every year because JMU outspends and out built every team at the fcs level multiple times over. Coach Cig has said as much.

JMU should have been NDSU consistent years ago. I know that CAA programs offer scholarships and pay coaches but losing to CAA football programs is not ok (ask Coach Cig) unless we tear down BFS and play at HHS, drop CoA, reduce the coaching salaries by multiples and replace our 12 uniforms combos for one that gets replaced every five years...and start playing in from of 800 people half of which are family and personal friends.

It's a ***** to live up to but JMU can't offer a valid reason for losing at the fcs level, other the number of scholarships, JMU is not as fcs program playing an fcs schedule.

Did NC State kill JMU last year? WVU, with a new, young HC, had heavy personnel losses, isn’t projected to be as good as NC State was last year, and will be playing a far more experienced JMU team, yet should kill JMU under any circumstances.

So JMU is only playing P5s to pick up a check? Is NDSU only playing Oregon in 2020 and Arizona in 2022 to pick up a check?

So you’re saying JMU should be NDSU consistent. NDSU consistent is 6 straight wins over I-A teams, 5 straight over P5, including:
-beating a just outside the Top 25 K-State team that at the time was coming off an 11-2 record & Fiesta Bowl appearance the season prior & still was an 8 win bowl team the season NDSU beat them.
-A win over a Top 20 Iowa team.
So JMU should be at that NDSU like consistency level, but should be killed by WVU under any circumstances and is only going to pick up a check.

I've been reading about the incident in the DNR/Rivals article and the Indiana Gazette article, and read through the comments on here as well. A few people referenced the JFM situation, and I am less concerned about the similarities between the actions and charges, and more concerned about the similarities about what happened the fact.

JFM acted like an idiot and did an idiotic thing. He was off the team, but stayed in school, kept his nose clean, and earned his way back to the team. He matured and learned from his actions. He'll be playing on Sundays this fall, and he is someone we can all be proud wore the Purple. Riley acted like an idiot and did an idiotic thing. I have two concerns with Riley's situation:

1. I hope that young woman is getting the help and support she needs to move on from this experience, and I hope the legal aspect of it being closed can help in her healing process.
2. What has Riley done off the field to show that he has matured and learned? He says he blacked out and did a stupid, abusive thing. Has he attended any behavioral classes? Has he stopped drinking and partying? At all, or just so hard? We haven't heard of him getting in trouble since then, but we also didn't know this had happened until yesterday.

I think the answers to #2 will be of more consequence to any punishment doled out than previous relationships or depth chart position (which should not factor into punishment decisions anyway, in my opinion). Anyway, time to get back to celebrating our softball team, and hoping baseball can get some wins this weekend.

I guess there's weren't any benefits from playing that game at VT other than just the nice paycheck.
SMU or ECU certainly didn't think we showed up to get a paycheck and get killed.

Our program is way past seeing a paycheck as the only reason to play these games. Those FBS teams pay us with that mindset, but that doesn't mean that we do.
The amount of publicity we got beating VT was (and still is) priceless.

(04-04-2019 12:26 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 12:15 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 10:58 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 10:16 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I like(d) watching Stapleton, good player. whatever happens, happens.

Football win and loss centered only, JMU has so many advantages at the fcs level it does not matter if Paris Black or Riley Stapleton or anybody else is or is not on the sideline.

"Oh no, we lost to Colgate again because XYZ was suspended" is weak as a self proclaimed "fcs power."

Screw Colgate. Football win and loss centered only, it matters vs WVU, running the table in the CAA, getting a top 2 seed, qtrs/semis/Frisco (including vs NDSU) if you lose probably your #1 offensive weapon...

WVU should kill us under any circumstances, WVU recruits a player at a different level or two and WVU has more of them. The only reason JMU plays WVU is to pick up a $600K check, ask Bourne.

JMU should run the CAA table every year and get a top playoff seed every year and win or give away the NC every year because JMU outspends and out built every team at the fcs level multiple times over. Coach Cig has said as much.

JMU should have been NDSU consistent years ago. I know that CAA programs offer scholarships and pay coaches but losing to CAA football programs is not ok (ask Coach Cig) unless we tear down BFS and play at HHS, drop CoA, reduce the coaching salaries by multiples and replace our 12 uniforms combos for one that gets replaced every five years...and start playing in from of 800 people half of which are family and personal friends.

It's a ***** to live up to but JMU can't offer a valid reason for losing at the fcs level, other the number of scholarships, JMU is not as fcs program playing an fcs schedule.

Agreed, one d-lineman and one receiver should not make or break this team. Other FCS teams, this most likely has a huge impact. But with Dean, brown and three tight ends plus an emphasis on the running game I'm sure the offense will be fine

I dont agree with WVU should kill us tho. I think its going to be more like last years NCST game where we are in it the whole time. Our defense will be better and their qb, either the OU transfer or Grier's backup, wont be as good as Finley was

WVU should kill JMU. This does not mean WVU will kill JMU.

Any P5 should kill a fcs.

Should is out the window when the whistle blows.

All I am saying is a good player or two lost sucks but it's not the end of the season before it starts. Stapleton is one of my favorites and runs good routes and at 6'5' is hard to cover.

Nothing good happens after midnight (COL)

Ten years ago this would have been a non story. It is only in this Me Too environment that these types of things become larger than life. Two kids, boyfriend and girlfriend are at a crossroads in their relationship and are in a bathroom together. One wants to resume the formerly passionate relationship and moves in to get a hug or a kiss or something. The other says no, it's over. There is no sexual assault (at least that we know) and there is some anger or disappointment in rejection. This has happened to a million couples. So, the girl decides to make an issue out of it for whatever reason. It takes two years for it to be resolved?

Good people do some dumb or bad things sometimes. I am sure he has learned a valuable lesson from this. A couple of game suspension to go with the embarrassment he is suffering should be adequate. Joe Biden would agree.

(04-04-2019 03:07 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  I guess there's weren't any benefits from playing that game at VT other than just the nice paycheck.
SMU or ECU certainly didn't think we showed up to get a paycheck and get killed.

Our program is way past seeing a paycheck as the only reason to play these games. Those FBS teams pay us with that mindset, but that doesn't mean that we do.
The amount of publicity we got beating VT was (and still is) priceless.

Beating Tech was the best sports event I've ever attended, I am on your side. I want FBS for JMU as much as anyone.

If you think beating Tech was great can I assume you are pushing for a 1A move? JMU would get the chance to beat P5s more frequently than once a year on opening day with a few at home and with the same # of recruited players.

Liberty and ODU have UVA and Tech all over their schedules home and away. Add numerous other P5s as well. Appy has cracked the top AP top 25.

We are talking about beating VT nine years ago (I do it too). While we are at it, I think JMU beat UVA once in '84. How long are these wins priceless without capitalizing on the PR and fan base potential?


I want Stapleton @ WVU. All I am saying is next man up and beat WVU anyways.

(04-04-2019 03:28 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Ten years ago this would have been a non story. It is only in this Me Too environment that these types of things become larger than life. Two kids, boyfriend and girlfriend are at a crossroads in their relationship and are in a bathroom together. One wants to resume the formerly passionate relationship and moves in to get a hug or a kiss or something. The other says no, it's over. There is no sexual assault (at least that we know) and there is some anger or disappointment in rejection. This has happened to a million couples. So, the girl decides to make an issue out of it for whatever reason. It takes two years for it to be resolved?

Good people do some dumb or bad things sometimes. I am sure he has learned a valuable lesson from this. A couple of game suspension to go with the embarrassment he is suffering should be adequate. Joe Biden would agree.

Are you saying this is her fault that he was arrested and she should have not done anything about it when it happened?

(04-04-2019 03:28 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Ten years ago this would have been a non story. It is only in this Me Too environment that these types of things become larger than life. Two kids, boyfriend and girlfriend are at a crossroads in their relationship and are in a bathroom together. One wants to resume the formerly passionate relationship and moves in to get a hug or a kiss or something. The other says no, it's over. There is no sexual assault (at least that we know) and there is some anger or disappointment in rejection. This has happened to a million couples. So, the girl decides to make an issue out of it for whatever reason. It takes two years for it to be resolved?

Good people do some dumb or bad things sometimes. I am sure he has learned a valuable lesson from this. A couple of game suspension to go with the embarrassment he is suffering should be adequate. Joe Biden would agree.

Did you read the part where he threw her into the shower & turned the water on?
*edit - my bad, shoved her into the shower, not threw

While basic common sense should be applied when judging the actions of others and it shouldnt take this but for the "old school" people out there, whenever you read something like this, imagine your wife, girlfriend, sister, daughter, grandaughter, hell yourself in the victims situation. If you are appalled, then you cannot defend the perpetrator.

(04-04-2019 04:57 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 03:28 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Ten years ago this would have been a non story. It is only in this Me Too environment that these types of things become larger than life. Two kids, boyfriend and girlfriend are at a crossroads in their relationship and are in a bathroom together. One wants to resume the formerly passionate relationship and moves in to get a hug or a kiss or something. The other says no, it's over. There is no sexual assault (at least that we know) and there is some anger or disappointment in rejection. This has happened to a million couples. So, the girl decides to make an issue out of it for whatever reason. It takes two years for it to be resolved?

Good people do some dumb or bad things sometimes. I am sure he has learned a valuable lesson from this. A couple of game suspension to go with the embarrassment he is suffering should be adequate. Joe Biden would agree.

Did you read the part where he threw her into the shower & turned the water on?

I doubt he read that part, because that wasn’t in the local article or any other posted.

There are 4 sides (facts) to this story:

1. The facts as perceived by the woman.
2. The facts as perceived by Stapleton.
3. The facts as being reported by the newspaper.
4. The actual facts ... which none of us know.

(04-04-2019 12:34 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  if he is dismissed, and there is ample reason for doing so, how might this impact his brother's interest in playing for the team?

Didn’t his brother join last season? I’d put the odds at greater than 50% that his brother was aware of the incident prior to his choosing to transfer.

Welp we made it about 70 posts. Not too bad I guess.