SEC:

1. Alabama: 101,561
2. Louisiana State: 100,819
3. Texas A&M: 99,844
4. Tennessee: 92,983
5. Georgia: 92,746
6. Auburn: 86,462
7. Florida: 82,328
8. South Carolina: 73,826
9. Arkansas: 59,740
10. Mississippi State: 58,057
11. Mississippi: 55,684
12. Kentucky: 55,117
13. Missouri: 51,465
14. Vanderbilt: 28,044

Total Attendance for all schools for 2018: 1,039,676
Average Attendance for all schools for 2018: 74,191
2017 Aveage Attendance for all schools: 75,074
NET Difference (-883)

These figures are courtesy of Al.Com and are not from the NCAA When the NCAA numbers are out I'll post them but they are two months late coming out and we might suspect why. Attendance numbers are going to be at a 34 year low when released. You can check against last year's pinned thread but the SEC average dropped another 883 average attendance over last year.


B1G:

1. Michigan: 110,737
2. Penn State: 105,485
3. Ohio State: 101,947
4. Nebraska: 89,034
5. Wisconsin: 77,153
6. Michigan State: 72,584
7. Iowa: 68,043
8. Purdue: 51,120
9. Northwestern: 43,873
10. Indiana: 40,965
11. Minnesota: 37,915
12. Rutgers: 37,799
13. Maryland: 35,600
14. Illinois: 34,090

Total for all schools 2018: 906,345
Total Average for all schools 2018: 64,739
2017 Average for all schools: 66,227
NET Difference (-1,488)

These figures courtesy of the Big 10 Statistics



Big 12:

1. Texas: 98,052
2. Oklahoma: 86,771
3. West Virginia: 58,100
4. Texas Tech: 57,648
5. Iowa State: 56,261
6. Oklahoma State: 53,948
7. Kansas State: 49,425
8. Texas Christian: 42,997
9. Baylor: 40,561
10. Kansas: 16,049

Total for all schools 2018: 559,812
Average for all schools 2018: 55,981
2017 Average for all schools: 56,852
NET Difference (-871)

These figures courtesy of the Big 12 Statistics.



ACC:

1. Clemson: 80,400
2. Florida State: 68,288
3. Miami: 61,469
4. Virginia Tech: 59,574
5. N.C. State: 56,855
6. Louisville: 50,251
7. North Carolina: 43,622
8. Georgia Tech: 43,087
9. Pittsburgh: 41,696
10. Virginia: 39,705
11. Boston College: 37,623
12. Syracuse: 37,043
13. Wake Forest: 26,842
14. Duke: 26,646

Total for all schools 2018: 673,101
Average for all schools 2018: 48,079
2017 Average for all schools: 48,442
NET Difference (-363)

Numbers courtesy of Hokie Mark's blog


PAC 12:

1. Washington: 69,816
2. Cal Los Angeles: 57,492
3. Southern Cal: 55,565
4. Arizona State: 51,745
5. Oregon: 51,456
6. Utah: 46,716
7. Arizona: 45,356
8. Colorado: 44,587
9. California: 40,907
10. Stanford: 38,514
11. Oregon State: 34,735
12. Washington State: 29,727

Total for all schools 2018: 566,616
Average for all schools 2018: 47,218
2017 Average for all schools: 49,601
NET Difference (-2,383)

Numbers courtesy of a Tacoma News Report. I'll update these when I get a more reliable source.

I pulled this from the NCAA website under football stats. Its sorted by conference.
School Average attendance 2018
Clemson 80,400
Florida State 68,288
Miami, FL 61,469
Virginia Tech 59,574
N Carolina State 56,855
Louisville 50,251
North Carolina 43,622
Georgia Tech 43,087
Pittsburgh 41,696
Virginia 39,705
Boston College 37,623
Syracuse 37,043
Wake Forest 26,842
Duke 26,646

UCF 44,019
South Florida 38,517
East Carolina 32,908
Cincinnati 30,519
Memphis 30,178
Houston 29,838
Temple 28,470
Connecticut 20,924
SMU 19,383
Tulane 18,015
Tulsa 17,098

Michigan 110,737
Penn State 105,485
Ohio State 101,947
Nebraska 89,034
Wisconsin 77,153
Michigan State 72,584
Iowa 68,043
Purdue 51,120
Northwestern 43,873
Indiana 40,965
Minnesota 37,915
Rutgers 37,799
Illinois 36,151
Maryland 33,594

Texas 97,713
Oklahoma 86,735
West Virginia 58,158
Texas Tech 56,034
Iowa State 56,010
Oklahoma State 53,542
Kansas State 49,738
TCU 42,868
Baylor 41,336
Kansas 19,424

UTSA 24,710
UAB 24,291
Marshall 24,063
North Texas 23,355
Southern Miss 21,615
Rice 20,172
Old Dominion 19,633
Louisiana Tech 17,525
Florida Atlantic 17,051
Florida International 15,685
MTSU 15,577
Western Kentucky 14,231
UTEP 14,155
UNC Charlotte 11,711

Notre Dame 77,622
BYU 52,476
Army 31,693
Navy 31,464
Liberty 16,282
New Mexico State 13,706
Massachusetts 10,385

Toledo 21,352
Akron 18,515
Buffalo 18,380
Western Michigan 18,293
Ohio 16,229
Eastern Michigan 15,939
Bowling Green 15,044
Miami, OH 14,253
Kent State 13,118
Central Michigan 12,840
Northern Illinois 10,404
Ball State 10,288

Boise State 33,068
Fresno State 31,503
San Diego State 31,439
Colorado State 29,504
Air Force 27,701
Hawaii 25,682
Wyoming 18,880
Utah State 18,717
Nevada 17,181
UNLV 16,823
New Mexico 16,587
San Jose State 14,255

Washington 69,068
Southern Cal 55,449
Oregon 53,016
UCLA 51,164
Arizona State 48,515
Utah 46,332
Colorado 45,809
Arizona 45,436
California 42,866
Stanford 37,842
Oregon State 35,209
Washington State 30,091

Troy State 24,527
Appalachian St. 21,953
Arkansas State 19,834
Louisiana-Lafayette 18,551
Georgia Southern 16,802
Georgia State 16,615
South Alabama 16,064
Louisiana-Monroe 14,210
Texas State 13,115
Coastal Carolina 10,635

Alabama 101,562
LSU 100,819
Texas A&M 98,844
Tennessee 92,984
Georgia 92,746
Auburn 84,462
Florida 82,328
South Carolina 73,628
Arkansas 61,291
Mississippi State 58,057
Mississippi 55,685
Kentucky 55,117
Missouri 51,466
Vanderbilt 28,045

Average median
SEC 74,074 77,978
Big 10 64,743 59,582
Big 12 56,156 54,776
Pac 12 46,733 46,071
ACC 48,079 43,355
American 28,170 29,838
MWC 23,445 22,281
CUSA 18,841 18,579
SB 17,231 16,709
MAC 15,388 15,492
IND 29,204 23,873

I expect Cuse to increase by 5-7K next year. They already have over 4K new season tickets sold. Retention rates are historically high too.

Amazing what a 10 win season does.

Would’ve guessed Northwestern was 14/14 in the B1G. 9th is pretty good for them and actually their ceiling with 47k capacity.

(03-29-2019 11:22 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Would’ve guessed Northwestern was 14/14 in the B1G. 9th is pretty good for them and actually their ceiling with 47k capacity.

Yeah I was surprised by that as well. I knew Illinois had issues but dang. At least they can point to Kansas.

B-12 has to step in and get Kansas FB fixed

(03-30-2019 12:56 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  B-12 has to step in and get Kansas FB fixed

They need to win. They were in the 50s in 2008 and 2009. They were in the 40s from 2010-2012, but have been on a steady downward trend since.

Washington State only averaged 30,000 with the year they had? They don't deserve Mike Leach.

(04-01-2019 06:52 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Washington State only averaged 30,000 with the year they had? They don't deserve Mike Leach.

Martin Stadium capacity is only about 33K.

(04-01-2019 06:52 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Washington State only averaged 30,000 with the year they had? They don't deserve Mike Leach.

As has already been noted before, WSU’s Martin Stadium is only 30,000 in capacity. I remember asking a WSU fan about why they haven’t looked at expanding the stadium, and he asked me who WSU was going to put in the new stadium seats, cows??? He told me WSU is in a very remote area and that is why Martin Stadium has such a low capacity. Not likely to change anytime soon.

(04-02-2019 09:26 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(04-01-2019 06:52 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Washington State only averaged 30,000 with the year they had? They don't deserve Mike Leach.

As has already been noted before, WSU’s Martin Stadium is only 30,000 in capacity. I remember asking a WSU fan about why they haven’t looked at expanding the stadium, and he asked me who WSU was going to put in the new stadium seats, cows??? He told me WSU is in a very remote area and that is why Martin Stadium has such a low capacity. Not likely to change anytime soon.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Washin...17.1542121

By my calculations, the 65 P5 schools have suffered a decline of 4.8% in attendance over. the last 8 years. G5 schools have fared a little worse, declining by 8.6%.

The five biggest losses among the P5 are:

Kansas....25,427
USC........24,458
Illinois.....18,037
Cal..........15,007
UNC........14,628

Combined, these five account for 51% of the total drop in P5 Attendance over that period.

Top 5 G5 losers, accounting for 61% of the total G5 drop:

UConn......17,324
ECU.........16,757
UTEP........15,195
Air Force...12,392
Hawaii......11,629

It would appear that on field suckitude, maybe more than general apathy, has a lot to do with the overall decline. Most of these programs have performed badly compared to their fans' expectations.

Conferences with the biggest 8 year declines:

CUSA..13.9%
PAC.....10.9
MWC...10.8
AAC.....10.0

Only one conference had a gain in attendance. The MAC had an average increase of 868 fans, or 0.5%.

Others with smaller than average losses were the Belt (1.8%), Big 12 (1.9%) and SEC (2.5%). The Big 12 numbers are more impressive when you consider that they include Kansas. Without the Jayhawks pulling them down, the B12 would have shown a 2.8% increase in their average attendance.

(04-02-2019 10:20 AM)ken d Wrote:  Conferences with the biggest 8 year declines:

CUSA..13.9%
PAC.....10.9
MWC...10.8
AAC.....10.0

Only one conference had a gain in attendance. The MAC had an average increase of 868 fans, or 0.5%.

Others with smaller than average losses were the Belt (1.8%), Big 12 (1.9%) and SEC (2.5%). The Big 12 numbers are more impressive when you consider that they include Kansas. Without the Jayhawks pulling them down, the B12 would have shown a 2.8% increase in their average attendance.

This is an artificial issue to a certain extent. Missouri's average attendance when joining the SEC was in the mid 60,000 range (which was a 10,000 count drag on the conference average). They've declined into the 50's and Vandy's average has dropped from the mid 30's into the upper 20s. However, some incremental declines have been partially covered by A&M's stadium expansion. The Big 10's average was murdered by the additions of Maryland and Rutgers.

Also hidden are the neutral site games which were once home and away series with other top brands. If those games were at home the average attendance for those schools would be up slightly instead of down slightly.

Toss in HDTV and as many of the articles about this phenomenon have pointed out college football viewership is pretty much at an all time high, but expense, travel and convenience have many fans everywhere watching from home. Seldom mentioned however is the fact that virtually every P5 game is televised in some fashion. Having half of them not televised was a motivator for purchasing season books.

So the whole attendance is failing thing loses a little steam when you consider that the popularity of the game is at a high, and when you factor in reduction of fans at home venues due to playing top line opponents at neutral sites which aren't counted in the attendance averages and when you factor in the additions made in realignment circa 2010 reduced the average attendance for the Big 10 and initially the SEC and to a minor extent that of the PAC. At least when the ACC added Louisville it was an attendance plus for them.

(04-02-2019 11:24 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-02-2019 10:20 AM)ken d Wrote:  Conferences with the biggest 8 year declines:

CUSA..13.9%
PAC.....10.9
MWC...10.8
AAC.....10.0

Only one conference had a gain in attendance. The MAC had an average increase of 868 fans, or 0.5%.

Others with smaller than average losses were the Belt (1.8%), Big 12 (1.9%) and SEC (2.5%). The Big 12 numbers are more impressive when you consider that they include Kansas. Without the Jayhawks pulling them down, the B12 would have shown a 2.8% increase in their average attendance.

This is an artificial issue to a certain extent. Missouri's average attendance when joining the SEC was in the mid 60,000 range (which was a 10,000 count drag on the conference average). They've declined into the 50's and Vandy's average has dropped from the mid 30's into the upper 20s. However, some incremental declines have been partially covered by A&M's stadium expansion. The Big 10's average was murdered by the additions of Maryland and Rutgers.

Also hidden are the neutral site games which were once home and away series with other top brands. If those games were at home the average attendance for those school would be up slightly instead of down slightly.

Toss in HDTV and as many of the articles about this phenomenon have pointed out college football viewership is pretty much at an all time high, but expense, travel and convenience have many fans everywhere watching from home. Seldom mentioned however is the fact that virtually every P5 game is televised in some fashion. Having half of them not televised was a motivator for purchasing season books.

So the whole attendance is failing thing loses a little steam when you consider that the popularity of the game is at a high, and when you factor in reduction of fans at home venues due to playing top line opponents at neutral sites which aren't counted in the attendance averages and when you factor in the additions made in realignment circa 2010 reduced the average attendance for the Big 10 and initially the SEC and to a minor extent that of the PAC. At least when the ACC added Louisville it was an attendance plus for them.

I agree concerns about college football attendance are largely overblown. I was a little surprised at some of the numbers, though. Realignment did not affect my analysis, as I was comparing the 2018 attendence for schools in their present conference against their 2010 attendance in whatever conference they were in at the time.

I sort of expected that MAC attendance might have been adversely affected by MACtion telecasts on weeknights. But that doesn't seem to be the case. That might suggest that proliferation of weeknight games have little effect on average attendance. As for the American, all of their decline and then some can be attributed to UConn and ECU going in the tank performance-wise.

In short, predictions of pending calamity for college football in general seem like much ado about nothing. The game is as strong as it's ever been.

(04-02-2019 11:24 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Toss in HDTV and as many of the articles about this phenomenon have pointed out college football viewership is pretty much at an all time high, but expense, travel and convenience have many fans everywhere watching from home. Seldom mentioned however is the fact that virtually every P5 game is televised in some fashion. Having half of them not televised was a motivator for purchasing season books.

It's not only the fact that every one of your own team's games is on TV, it's that if you're at home you can watch 2-5 other games and your own team's game at the same time. Plus the fact that avoiding both the time and expense of travel is a big plus in favor of watching at home. I've seen estimates that 30 percent or more of fans attending college football games live more than an hour away from the stadium -- that's the group of fans with the greatest incentive to watch at home.

I expect Clemson's average to increase with it being an odd numbered year. In even numbered years we only get one premiere home game: South Carolina. In odd number years we play at South Carolina but it is replaced by the other P5 home game, this season it's Texas A&M. The difference comes from the conference slate swapping picking up home games against both FSU and Georgia Tech giving us two premiere home games compared to none in the years when the rotating Coastal opponent isn't VT or Miami. The even year ACC rotation of NC State, Louisville, Syracuse and whoever from the Coastal isn't very attractive to our fanbase compared to the odd year rotation of BC, FSU, Wake, and GT.

Temple attendance:

2008: 15,582
2018: 28,470

2nd largest increase over that time behind Mississippi State. TCU is 3rd.

(04-02-2019 01:28 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-02-2019 11:24 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Toss in HDTV and as many of the articles about this phenomenon have pointed out college football viewership is pretty much at an all time high, but expense, travel and convenience have many fans everywhere watching from home. Seldom mentioned however is the fact that virtually every P5 game is televised in some fashion. Having half of them not televised was a motivator for purchasing season books.

It's not only the fact that every one of your own team's games is on TV, it's that if you're at home you can watch 2-5 other games and your own team's game at the same time. Plus the fact that avoiding both the time and expense of travel is a big plus in favor of watching at home. I've seen estimates that 30 percent or more of fans attending college football games live more than an hour away from the stadium -- that's the group of fans with the greatest incentive to watch at home.

And with all those televised games that means more TV timeouts. And if its on the SEC Network, ESPN loves to destroy gave continuity with even more commercials than on ESPN or ABC. At least every non-rev athlete and professor who has gotten any award gets recognized in front of 80,000 fans (of course, they are desperately trying to get cell service at the time).