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Richie is leaving
03-26-2019 08:59 PM
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RE: Jaylen Key leaving....
It’s a revolving door of talent. I wonder what the pitch is to get these guys committing than uncommitting a year later. Richie got playing time. He was probably going to start next season. Ridiculous. Lol
03-26-2019 09:04 PM
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Not sure how you can build a program when 3-5 guys leave each year.
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(03-26-2019 08:11 PM)dc1 Wrote:  I know the NIU academic side of things who are suffering through constant cuts would not appreciate seeing any extra money being wasted to get rid of a coach


Athletics earns money from big games, ticket sales, sponsorships, donations, etc. Let’s say they have the money for the buyout. Are they instead supposed to turn over that money to the university to be used for academic purposes?
03-26-2019 09:23 PM
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(03-26-2019 09:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(03-26-2019 08:11 PM)dc1 Wrote:  I know the NIU academic side of things who are suffering through constant cuts would not appreciate seeing any extra money being wasted to get rid of a coach


Athletics earns money from big games, ticket sales, sponsorships, donations, etc. Let’s say they have the money for the buyout. Are they instead supposed to turn over that money to the university to be used for academic purposes?

Talent is this years Fr-Soph classes pretty thin overall
03-26-2019 09:52 PM
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https://northernstar.info/sports/danowsk...4dc11.html

If this is the 4th and final it’s not too awful. Richie as a freshman who got playing time is the most significant loss.
03-26-2019 09:57 PM
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They should have enough money to buy out Monty. They have all the leftover donations from people who chipped in to outbid Temple.
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RE: Jaylen Key leaving....
(03-26-2019 08:11 PM)dc1 Wrote:  I know the NIU academic side of things who are suffering through constant cuts would not appreciate seeing any extra money being wasted to get rid of a coach

When I said "find" the money I took the "other reason(s)" into consideration, and just focused on the money. My choice.

As you pointed out very simply, dc1, a big part of it IS about budget and lack of funds. Almost EVERYTHING at Northern is about budget and lack of funds. Frazier can't sneeze without somebody asking how much he's spending on the tissues, and somebody else asking "where's mine?"

"Find" means having it AND being able to spend it without getting tangled up in all that. It's not just a matter of deciding whether it's even necessary to bring in someone else to fix perceived internal/cultural problems. And then there's the fact that making such a change not only has to be explained but defended within the university community.

I do not see a change coming for all those reasons. It is what it is.
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(03-26-2019 08:59 PM)dc1 Wrote:  Richie is leaving

Yup. Just got posted on verbal commits.
03-27-2019 07:49 AM
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RE: Jaylen Key leaving....
Can someone, anyone, who's following the details of this thread more closely than I am list who's going/gone so far? Who's left? Lot of names floating around here. I posted two who are coming in (Tyler Cochran, 6-3, point guard, and Keenon Cole, 6-7, power forward). Thanks in advance.
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RE: Jaylen Key leaving....
Most of this is simply cutting fat from the roster. Danowski and Demogerontis are fat. Plain and simple. Not needed. Not wanted. Don't play (yes...Demogerontis was hurt, but a complete non-factor).

Key leaving is probably a blessing in disguise. He's never been as good as he was his freshman season and this season looked like a shell of himself. He'd probably be a detriment since he'd have to play due to being a senior and having experience in the system.

Richie is the only one I'm disappointed to see leave. And to be honest, I don't think he played well enough to warrent a move to a better program, but I liked how he played. He played hard. All the time. And he's got some skill shooting behind the arc, which is a benefit especially with his size and position (ie, he's not a guard).

Ultimately though, it's been rumored there is a 5th. If it's Tyler Oehlberg.....I'll be devastated. Seriously though, I don't want to see anyone else leave, but at the top of the list would be German and/or James. (with an honorable mention to Rod Henry-Hayes).

Who knows, maybe Monty turns one of these scholarships into Rashaun Agee?
03-27-2019 08:18 AM
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McCARTY is thinking about leaving. I personally feel this would be a mistake by him. He has a coach that trusts him and he has a very good chance at starting. I feel he is a borderline D1 player so I think he’s lucky to be here.
03-27-2019 08:43 AM
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Do they all think that if only they were at a different school they would suddenly become stars?
03-27-2019 08:50 AM
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RE: Jaylen Key leaving....
Seems like we will sign a couple of JUCO players. Monty will be scouting the Rec(Rug) Center for additional players.
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RE: Jaylen Key leaving....
A rundown of the MAC transfers (so far):

Buffalo -
None

Bowling Green -
None

Kent State -
None

Miami -
Jalen Adaway - Soph - SG - 2* - 7.5 ppg - 8.5 ppg as freshman - 17 games started - 28 games started as freshman

Ohio -
Jason Carter - Junior - PF - 2* - 16.5 ppg - 31 games started - injured as soph - 15 games started as freshman (9.9 ppg)

Torey James - Freshman - SG - 2* - 0.8 ppg - 0 games started - 14 games played

Teyvion Kirk - Sophomore - PG - 2* - 14.1 ppg (15.3 ppg/Freshman) - has been a fulltime started since freshman season

Toledo -
James Gordon IV - Soph - SF - 2* - has only played in 17 games total in two seasons

Central Michigan -
None

NIU -
Tommy Demogerontis (grad transfer) - SF - 2* - 3.9 ppg as junior - injured as senior

Austin Richie - Fresh - SF - 2* - 2.4 ppg - 28 games played - 0 starts

Jaylen Key - Junior - PF - 3* - 3.6 ppg as junior - 3 starts - injured last year - we all know the rest

Brandon Danowski - Soph - walk-on - that is all

Eastern Michigan -
Malik Ellison - Soph - PG - 2* - 2.2 ppg - 3 starts (23 games) - 2 ppg as freshman - 13 starts (32 games played)

Bud Jones - Soph - C - 2* - 1.8 ppg (11 games played - 0 starts) - 1.0 ppg as freshman - 3 starts (24 games)

Andre Rafus, Jr. - Fresh - SF - 3.5* - 2.2 ppg - 5 games played

Tariq Silver - Fresh - SG - 2* - 3.3 ppg - 2 starts (22 games)

Daivon Stephens - Fresh - SF - 1.3 ppg - 0 starts (15 games)

Ball State -
None

Western Michigan -
Bryce Moore - Junior - PG - 2* - 9.8 ppg - 32 starts - 5.1 ppg (soph) - 16 starts (31 games) - 5.5 ppg (fresh) - 13 starts (31 games)
03-27-2019 09:02 AM
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RE: Jaylen Key leaving....
(03-27-2019 08:43 AM)dc1 Wrote:  McCARTY is thinking about leaving. I personally feel this would be a mistake by him. He has a coach that trusts him and he has a very good chance at starting. I feel he is a borderline D1 player so I think he’s lucky to be here.

He's a role player. An extremely valuable role player (especially considering that he and James are the ONLY big men on the roster). With that said, he absolutely should be starting next season. I figured the started would be Key, but now that he's transferring, there's no scenario in which McCarty doesn't start.
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(03-27-2019 09:02 AM)Big Red Wrote:  A rundown of the MAC transfers (so far):

Buffalo -
None

Bowling Green -
None

Kent State -
None

Miami -
Jalen Adaway - Soph - SG - 2* - 7.5 ppg - 8.5 ppg as freshman - 17 games started - 28 games started as freshman

Ohio -
Jason Carter - Junior - PF - 2* - 16.5 ppg - 31 games started - injured as soph - 15 games started as freshman (9.9 ppg)

Torey James - Freshman - SG - 2* - 0.8 ppg - 0 games started - 14 games played

Teyvion Kirk - Sophomore - PG - 2* - 14.1 ppg (15.3 ppg/Freshman) - has been a fulltime started since freshman season

Toledo -
James Gordon IV - Soph - SF - 2* - has only played in 17 games total in two seasons

Central Michigan -
None

NIU -
Tommy Demogerontis (grad transfer) - SF - 2* - 3.9 ppg as junior - injured as senior

Austin Richie - Fresh - SF - 2* - 2.4 ppg - 28 games played - 0 starts

Jaylen Key - Junior - PF - 3* - 3.6 ppg as junior - 3 starts - injured last year - we all know the rest

Brandon Danowski - Soph - walk-on - that is all

Eastern Michigan -
Malik Ellison - Soph - PG - 2* - 2.2 ppg - 3 starts (23 games) - 2 ppg as freshman - 13 starts (32 games played)

Bud Jones - Soph - C - 2* - 1.8 ppg (11 games played - 0 starts) - 1.0 ppg as freshman - 3 starts (24 games)

Andre Rafus, Jr. - Fresh - SF - 3.5* - 2.2 ppg - 5 games played

Tariq Silver - Fresh - SG - 2* - 3.3 ppg - 2 starts (22 games)

Daivon Stephens - Fresh - SF - 1.3 ppg - 0 starts (15 games)

Ball State -
None

Western Michigan -
Bryce Moore - Junior - PG - 2* - 9.8 ppg - 32 starts - 5.1 ppg (soph) - 16 starts (31 games) - 5.5 ppg (fresh) - 13 starts (31 games)

Damn Ohio getting hit hard
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(03-27-2019 09:18 AM)klake87 Wrote:  
(03-27-2019 09:02 AM)Big Red Wrote:  A rundown of the MAC transfers (so far):

Buffalo -
None

Bowling Green -
None

Kent State -
None

Miami -
Jalen Adaway - Soph - SG - 2* - 7.5 ppg - 8.5 ppg as freshman - 17 games started - 28 games started as freshman

Ohio -
Jason Carter - Junior - PF - 2* - 16.5 ppg - 31 games started - injured as soph - 15 games started as freshman (9.9 ppg)

Torey James - Freshman - SG - 2* - 0.8 ppg - 0 games started - 14 games played

Teyvion Kirk - Sophomore - PG - 2* - 14.1 ppg (15.3 ppg/Freshman) - has been a fulltime started since freshman season

Toledo -
James Gordon IV - Soph - SF - 2* - has only played in 17 games total in two seasons

Central Michigan -
None

NIU -
Tommy Demogerontis (grad transfer) - SF - 2* - 3.9 ppg as junior - injured as senior

Austin Richie - Fresh - SF - 2* - 2.4 ppg - 28 games played - 0 starts

Jaylen Key - Junior - PF - 3* - 3.6 ppg as junior - 3 starts - injured last year - we all know the rest

Brandon Danowski - Soph - walk-on - that is all

Eastern Michigan -
Malik Ellison - Soph - PG - 2* - 2.2 ppg - 3 starts (23 games) - 2 ppg as freshman - 13 starts (32 games played)

Bud Jones - Soph - C - 2* - 1.8 ppg (11 games played - 0 starts) - 1.0 ppg as freshman - 3 starts (24 games)

Andre Rafus, Jr. - Fresh - SF - 3.5* - 2.2 ppg - 5 games played

Tariq Silver - Fresh - SG - 2* - 3.3 ppg - 2 starts (22 games)

Daivon Stephens - Fresh - SF - 1.3 ppg - 0 starts (15 games)

Ball State -
None

Western Michigan -
Bryce Moore - Junior - PG - 2* - 9.8 ppg - 32 starts - 5.1 ppg (soph) - 16 starts (31 games) - 5.5 ppg (fresh) - 13 starts (31 games)

Damn Ohio getting hit hard

And look at EMU. Losing all 3 freshman they recruited this year along with 2 of the 4 sophomores they recruited last year. They are currently recruiting a literal ****-ton of Junior transfers. They've already inked three transfers with one incoming freshman.
03-27-2019 10:35 AM
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RE: Jaylen Key leaving....
(03-27-2019 09:00 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Seems like we will sign a couple of JUCO players. Monty will be scouting the Rec(Rug) Center for additional players.

Last year's JUCO players did not set the world on fire. I hope he does better this year.
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(03-27-2019 10:40 AM)StevenNIU Wrote:  
(03-27-2019 09:00 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Seems like we will sign a couple of JUCO players. Monty will be scouting the Rec(Rug) Center for additional players.

Last year's JUCO players did not set the world on fire. I hope he does better this year.

There aren't any listed in connection to NIU. There was one guy (I can't remember his name) who played for Highland CC (I think?) but he's not listed with NIU anymore. I looked to see if he'd transferred and no one comes up associated with "Highland" (I'm pretty certain that was the JUCO) but nothing did.
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